Follow-up Story: My Future MIL Confronted Me in a Pantry

What happens when your future mother-in-law corners you in the pantry to accuse you of ruining her son’s life? That’s exactly what went down in today’s jaw-dropping episode.

We reconnect with an anonymous guest, who now returns to share how her wedding journey unraveled into a powder keg of emotion, betrayal, and a confrontation she’ll never forget.

If you’ve ever questioned a wedding’s red flags, this story will stay with you. From a fiancé caught in the middle to a mother-in-law determined to divide, this episode is a must-listen.

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

03:13 Engagement and Initial Red Flags

03:45 Mother-in-Law’s Demands Begin

04:52 First Major Incident: Venue Address

08:13 Boundary Issues and Kitchen Confrontation

11:56 Fiance’s Call and Silent Treatment

16:55 4th of July Weekend Tensions

20:43 Handling Emotional Conflict

22:11 The Pantry Confrontation

28:19 Post-Confrontation Reflections

31:22 Dress Shopping and Relationship Dynamics

33:25 Premarital Counseling and Lessons Learned

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Pantry Blowup – A quiet moment at the rehearsal dinner turns into a private ambush from the mother-in-law.
  • Caught in the Middle – The fiancé’s struggle to balance loyalty between partner and parent creates more chaos.
  • Crossing the Line – The mother-in-law’s accusations include controlling her son’s life and “changing him.”
  • Silent Treatment Strategy – Post-fight, the MIL goes silent, leaving tension boiling under the surface.
  • A New Kind of Wedding Day – Despite everything, the couple finds their own way to move forward—with boundaries.
  • Delayed Fallout – A honeymoon doesn’t stop the drama. The emotional scars show up weeks later.
  • The Support That Mattered – The groom’s eventual stand for his partner offers a moment of healing.
  • Telling the Story – The power of sharing your experience and being heard, even years later.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “If you’re scared to speak up at your own wedding, that’s a red flag.”Christa Innis
  • “Respecting boundaries doesn’t make you difficult—it makes you self-aware.”Christa Innis
  • “A wedding should never be the battleground for someone else’s unresolved issues.”Christa Innis
  • “Silence doesn’t mean peace—it just means someone’s swallowing their feelings.”Christa Innis
  • “Just because it’s tradition doesn’t mean it’s healthy.”Christa Innis
  • “I knew the moment she opened that pantry, something was going to explode.”Anonymous Guest
  • “It wasn’t just about the wedding—it was about control.” Anonymous Guest
  • “She made me feel like I was stealing her son, not marrying him.”Anonymous Guest
  • “I kept waiting for someone to stand up for me, but no one did.”Anonymous Guest
  • “You think family drama will die down after the wedding, but it only gets louder.”Anonymous Guest

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Note: We use AI transcription so there may be some inaccuracies

Christa Innis: Hi there. Thanks for joining me. Thanks for having me. I’m so excited. All right, so before we started recording, we said we are gonna keep you anonymous today because we have a kind of crazy story to dive into today. for those of you guys listening, they’re like, what is she talking about?

 I think it was episode, I wrote notes down here, episode seven. I had Suzanne Lambert on and we read was one of the craziest stories. I think one of the kind of intense mother-in-law story. It involved, a lot of, anguish, a debate and a pantry on 4th of July and a lot of drama that went up, from there and.

This was such an interesting story to us, and we were like, I think you ended it with part two coming soon because you’re about to do your bridesmaid or no, your wedding dress shopping. So I was like, I have so many questions, let’s reach out to her and see if she wants to come on the podcast. So here you are.

So I appreciate you for being vulnerable and coming on and sharing.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, no, uh, thanks. I mean. Honestly, like it was such a crazy story and I just think, I was just like, well, someone’s gotta hear this, whether it’s for entertainment purposes or therapeutic for me, I was just like, someone’s gotta hear this, so it’s good.

Yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: So if you guys have not listened to the full episode, I would recommend you guys go back to episode seven and give it a listen. but let’s just do some quick bullet points here. We’ll kinda walk through it together. I might also put a little, audio clip from it so you guys can hear some of the crazy moments there.

But starting off, you said, my fiance and I got engaged in April. We were excited to plan our wedding for next September, and his mother has always been supportive, often teasing him about proposing. So when we called to share the news. She barely finished saying congratulations before asking if she could go dress shopping because she only has two sons, so I’m not gonna read the whole thing, obviously.

But then getting into it, the red flags started appearing when you guys all got together. At, I think, was it an engagement party?

Anonymous Guest: It was at our house with Father’s Day weekends. Okay. We were hosting all the men in our lives. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Okay. And so at that point was when she started to demand to know the venue, address.

So tell us what went down here and oh, actually I wanna know first before all of this, did you guys consider her like a good relationship? Like have a good relationship with her?

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, no, we had a great relationship and like it, my fiance’s relationship with his mom was always good.

Ours was good. She was very supportive of us. And I even noted, but his grandma was pa in the process of passing away and on her deathbed was like, you have to marry this girl in two months. And he is like, you’re nuts. And of course we wanted to get engaged, but there was like a lot of family support including his dying grandma, his mother, like all these people.

And so there was never really any signs of any like, anguish as you said, like, or upset feelings. really until. Like the wedding started coming to fruition and that like maybe we were making decisions that were for us and nobody else. So I think that’s kind of maybe where that happened or. Maybe her perception of how that was starting to unfold was different than the reality.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay, so let’s go to that first moment. Yeah. Where she starts pressuring you to tell the address, even though the month was still like a year out, and you said this is the name of it. We actually haven’t even been there yet. So what happened? What all went down?

The Text Message Debacle

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, it was crazy. It was like, so we were sitting in our living room just having like normal Father’s Day watching golf kind of thing.

And we had told her where we were getting married. we kind of had left out details from the beginning just as we were figuring them out, told her. And then, you know, she was like, can you send me the address? And I was like, well, I already shared it with you. And she’s like, well, I delete my text messages, which is something that I know you guys noted the first time.

Yeah. We were like, what is she saying? They were like, who does this? And I was like, no, she’s just somebody that’s just like, just delete. Them? I don’t know. I don’t know. She actually

Christa Innis: does. She wasn’t just saying

Anonymous Guest: that goes through and she just like deletes all, every thread. It gets deleted like every day kind of thing.

So she doesn’t keep anything. Oh. And she doesn’t have a, you know, she just doesn’t keep anything. So I knew that originally she was asking ’cause like she didn’t have it. but then, you know, as time went on, she started like, and I said, well, why do you need it? I told you we were getting married.

And she’s like, well, because I wanna go and I wanna go see where the hotels are in p. And because it’s not so far from where she lives, all this stuff. And I was just like, oh, no, no, no, no. You know? And I, I was just like, no, that’s like really not necessary. We have it all figured out. It. April and our wedding is the following September.

So we were so far away time I couldn’t even open a room block if I wanted to. And so my fiance and I were just like, what? So, this is kind of happening and this is like starting that conversation again. We’re just very casual and she’s just like, no, like, just send me it. And I was like, well, it seems as though you wanna go there.

And like that’s not, we haven’t even been, and I’m trying to like bridge and bridge and understand and like. Really press this down kind of quickly and as amicably as possible because I’m just, she keeps pressing and then I keep trying to bridge it. and so that was like the first of what I,thought were like three major incidents within this incident of a day was her pestering about the venue.

And it was just so shocking to us. ’cause we were like. why are you pressing on this so hard right now at this time and this day? Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. It’s like, where is this all coming from? All of a sudden you have to go see it and it’s like, how can she not see that this is a special moment for you and your fiance at the time of being able to like go to the venue together, see together for the first time before people coming in, in with their opinions.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. and we, to this day, still have not seen it, which is hilarious because I planned our whole wedding around a venue I’ve literally never seen. but that’s the thing is I was just like, I don’t know when I’m gonna go. I don’t have plans to go. As of right now, it’s four hours away from where we live.

Like this is just the reality of it. And just because you were closer, let’s not like prioritize You’re needing this to go. Also, I was expressing it to private property. Like it’s not like you can just show up like a ballroom or a hotel. You can’t just show up. And then, my fear was that like, as she was pressing, I started to realize, well maybe she would go and, go to the property and start talking to these people and having conversations that I was not a part of.

And so I kind of started spiraling myself and that’s where I think I started getting more worked up by the thoughts of it. of what could happen. Mm-hmm. And just try, like I said, just trying to shut it down in that moment, really. Yeah. as kindly as possible.

Christa Innis: Yeah. ’cause it’s totally understandable to be like excited be like, if you want me included, I would love to be a part of it, but to then press, especially after you’re like, well, we haven’t even seen it ourselves.

It’s a private property. You can’t just show up. And she’s still pushing for it. So then she corners you. In the kitchen. How does that all happen? And does this kind of fizzle out first and you guys are like, just kinda like moving up past it? like what are other people doing during this time? Like are they looking at this like.

Is this still happening?

“Aren’t You Just So Happy?”

Anonymous Guest: well, we have a kind of open concept floor, so like our kitchen’s connected to our living room and connected, and we were kind of outside, so we had a group outside, like no one was really in the house anymore, and she’d kind of come inside and we were in the kitchen together and everyone else was kind of outside, which is a very similar, like kind of set up as it was when we were in the pantry situation, which don’t get to, but, and she was just, expressing that she was like.

Are you just so happy? I’m gonna be your mother-in-law. And I was just like, in the moment, I was taken aback because I’m like. Why are you asking this? Like, is this something you’re really concerned about? Like, am I so happy? Am I so not? Because I’ve obviously been maybe giving off some energy that, I was not as excited by your excitement to go to the venue and I was kinda shutting that down and then I shut down the conversation with my bachelorette party, and so I’m like, are you kind of getting the vibe that my energy is coming back to you in a different way and now you’re trying to get validation through me by saying, aren’t you just so happy?

 I tried to like, address it as head on as possible and just say like, yeah, of course I am, but here’s what’s happening right now, is that like, I feel as though you’re kind of, you’re trying to step on this, what I would call a boundary and saying like, my boundary is that you don’t go to the venue and you don’t, like this is the situation and I would just appreciate that you kind of let us handle it.

And, I didn’t again realize at the time the weight of the words I was saying. Again, I was trying to be as amicable as possible, be very choosy with my words and being kind. And ultimately like I wanted to be kind to her and, just express clearly how I was feeling. And I did not realize the weight of the word boundary.

 and how like significant it would play into the rest of.

Christa Innis: She’s held onto that grip on it. They don’t do boundaries in this family. Gorilla

Anonymous Guest: Grip, gorilla Gripp onto it. Yeah, it’s crazy. and I think that like it maybe was the first time being put in a, like to be held back from something or maybe to be really put into that box.

But at the same time, like it’s funny because you guys noted like, where’s your fiance and this whole thing, he is outside having a drink, has no idea. We’re, you know, in the kitchen kind of thing together. And I think in the most of the story, like he and I and, the sentiment really is he was just as stunned as I was through the whole thing and.

I think his reaction in the fight or flight minus fight his is kind of take a step back and process. And so whereas I maybe was more communicative with my feelings and clear up front later in the story, he was much more like nervous and surprised and then had to find a way to then speak and speak up about it, which is after the situation when we were in the kitchen when he ended up calling her, but.

I mean, we were by ourselves in the kitchen. And then as I said, this is my boundary. She, I don’t really remember her exact kind of feelings about it, but we ended up, walking away and having the rest of the day kinda be fine. And we thought the day went kind of weird after that and we were just like, man, that was like such odd energy in front of everyone, not just at least the three of us.

And. That’s when he ended up calling her, which came after that.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay. So we have an issue with the word boundaries. I’m glad you said the thing about like you and your fiance. ’cause I think a lot of times, like stories like this are written by the brides and they experience it firsthand because of that kind of like, turmoil, I dunno if that’s even the right word, but it’s like.

The fiance we to remember too, is in a difficult position, right? It’s like, obviously they’re choosing you, but at the same time it’s like, I’ve never seen this side of my mom before. I’m really sorry. But also what’s happening, but also I love you, I promise. they’re like dealing with all these like different so of like emotions and things they’re going through.

so that’s important to say as well. okay, so these red flags are showing, you’re like, okay, we’re gonna move on from this like boundary day. Yeah. then your fiance calls her. Mm-hmm.

Anonymous Guest: yeah. so we decompressed, we talked about the day.

We were like, wow, that was really weird. Never had an interaction like that. just seemed as though like she was really pressing and feeling anxious or worked up about the details. And so we called her and was just like, Hey, like. I kind of told him, I said like, if you feel this way, say it on behalf of you.

Like, I don’t want you to speak on behalf of me. in any way, giving anybody ammunition as to saying, well, she feels this way, she feels that way. I said, just speak on behalf of you and leave it at that. So he said, you know, like, I feel like the other day was weird and the energy was weird, and it essentially like maybe being more.

Clear with how he was feeling. I think it really upset her and she ended up getting so upset with his confrontation of the behavior and just saying like, and I forget along the lines of what he said, but he was just like, talking about this and talking about that. She goes, well, that was a joke.

And like, I can’t, I was just teasing. And he was just like, yeah, it really wasn’t, a joke or whatever. You know, he kind of addressed like things. Clearly and she just had different perception of it. and then I think that being as though he was so clear with her and like how he felt, she felt very attacked by that and very like hurt by that.

And the only way I think that she knew how to process that was to literal hang up on him and not talk to him for three weeks. Yeah. Which was crazy. Do the silent

Christa Innis: treatment. Yeah. I find that so interesting because it’s like, okay, respect your elders, communicate and he did just that. Yeah. He literally called her in an appropriate way, did not out her in front of a bunch of people saying, Hey, you’re being rude.

You know, like literally the most respectful thing. But there’s a certain, I feel like certain people cannot handle being told they did something wrong, or, someone was hurt by the way they acted.

Birthday Silence Treatment

Anonymous Guest: No, that’s exactly, right. and I think again, their relationship was so fine, but why did this instance of confronting behavior, and maybe he never did, and what I’ve come to realize in the last year about him and his relationship growing up and stuff like that, like he is so unbothered by everything.

Like the man could not be bothered by a single thing. And it is what a peaceful life my fiance lives because he just does not get worked up about anything and. It takes so much for him to even feel worked up. And so when coming at situations like this, he can so easily take it in and brush it out and it’s like.

Most people cannot do that or you internalize a little bit. And so I think that in interactions with her previously or growing up, like he certainly has never felt the need to address anything head on and or felt heard enough. But I think when it came down to us discussing how we felt and how I expressed to him how that made me feel, he then felt ownership and saying like, okay, well this is something that obviously we need to talk about and I need to address, but maybe she had never.

Had that be addressed before or been told to your point Like, this was wrong or your behavior upset me in any way. So it definitely stunned her. And you said she hung off the phone and didn’t talk to him for three weeks. didn’t talk to either one of us for three weeks, which was a notable three weeks because his birthday fell during that time.

And, there wasn’t like a. Come back together kind of moment. And it was a little hard. I mean, she expressed after that in the story that that was hard for her. And it’s hard for us, like, to have such a normal, good relationship with somebody and then to know there is tension and to know what is present for that whole time, like.

It was definitely difficult for us too. Mm-hmm. Because like we’re just trying to process how we feel about the situation in general and celebrate our engagement. And then also there’s this like massive tension that’s like building and then kind of being expanded in the family as like more people were obviously present and then seeing what’s happening and hearing what’s happening and it’s kind of expanding it felt like.

So that was, it was hard. Yeah. And then of course it’s birthday, so it felt, it just felt terrible. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. I find it all so interesting because it’s like she can. Beret is probably a heavy word, but she can like, call you out in front of everybody, make you feel a certain way, even though you were like constantly putting your boundary down, saying, no, no, no.

She gets contacted in private by herself. Mm-hmm. And that’s disrespectful. It’s not okay. And she goes into silent treatment mode. She goes into like victim mode of like, oh my gosh, you guys are attacking me. And it’s just kind of funny to see like the opposites and from different point of views like, how she can’t even see like past her own like lens.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. And that’s like a lot of the work that I’ve done in therapy and personal therapy like is just understanding. Yeah, of course. Like you have two sides to every story, but like. The information that we had to your point, was in private, in a calm way and trying to be clear and communicative and it wasn’t receptive.

 she wasn’t receptive at all of it. So I think that’s a piece of, I. Getting feedback and then being able to process at the time, at least in the situation, she just did not handle like super well and then ended up, my fiance and then extended party, like ended up suffering in those, three-ish weeks to that before the next, major incident.

So it was crazy. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. So let’s get into a Father’s Day weekend. This was the part that 4th of July. This is

Anonymous Guest: 4th of

Christa Innis: July weekend. weeks. Year. Oh, fourth. Oh yeah. Father’s Day weekend was the first dinner. So we’re talking Yeah. 4th of July weekend. This was still over the, not talking to you stage.

Mm-hmm. Completely like blocking you guys out. Yeah. Yeah. So at that point, okay, let’s talk about 4th of July then. So you guys don’t hear from her. You guys have a 4th of July party at this house with a really big pantry. Yes. Yes. This is the part that Suzanne and I were just like, wait, what is happening here?

She’s in the pantry now. This doesn’t make any sense. Yeah. I’m like visualizing this like beautiful, like huge pantry.

Anonymous Guest: It is. Yeah. Um,

Christa Innis: so you guys had like a rented house?

Anonymous Guest: Well, yeah. So without giving too many details my fiance’s family has like a larger, lodge of sorts, very much like the Hallmark esque make big lodges that they spend their Christmases in kind of thing.

They have one in their family. it’s also like a hunting lodge kind of thing. Okay. So just very large. and the kitchen is like an industrial kitchen, so you imagine like the big industrial stoves and stuff like that. And so there’s just this larger like wraparound kind of pantry type of situation that’s adjacent to off of it, but yes.

Where at their family’s house. lodge for, better words, but yeah.

Christa Innis: So it’s his family’s house. Everyone’s there, but his mom just hasn’t shown up yet. She shows up late, right?

The Lodge and the Cold Shoulder

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. So she doesn’t live too far from there. and so my fiance has like, family ownership of the lodge.

So we go up, we bring my family, my parents are there, that we all join the lodge for the weekend. So we’re there for like the long weekend and it’s her family’s place. and his grandpa. Owns it and he’s there and then the aunt is there. So everyone that was at the original incident is also now, coincidentally at 4th of July weekend.

 so she had every right to be there and all the plans to be there. But it sounds as though like, obviously we were struggling with communication. We were obviously not talking and then, so it didn’t seem as though she was very excited about the idea of joining us as soon as possible. So we were there for a couple days before she ended up joining.

Yeah.

Christa Innis: Oh, and do you think that was her plan all along? Or do you think she was randomly was like, I’m gonna go and make my entrance, my grand entrance?

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, it’s, well, so there was up being a couple things that happened. So there was like this other party that we were going to within for the July weekend that was at a house very close, and we ended up seeing her there for the first time.

So she was also at this adjacent family party inside of 4th of July weekend. Oh my gosh. To give you the vibe, and that is where we first. saw her face to face since he had not speak to her, like been on the phone and she was very cold. Like, very much did not want anything to do with us. And at the time.

I was, I kind of saw her in the corner and I could see that she was talking to somebody. and I could see she was very heated about what she was talking about, and I could only imagine that, she was kind of recounting what has been going on in her life. and she said a couple things kind of verbatim that she repeated back to me in the pantry.

So I knew that’s ultimately what she was talking about and mm-hmm. So I could tell that, yeah, the vibes were a little intense and so he kind of went up to her and tried to embrace her in some way and she was very much not into it. I tried to do the same thing. She basically didn’t hug me probably the first time ever.

and so it was like a really cold interaction. and then my parents were at the house, you know, down the road kind of thing, and. Her whole point was to come there and to spend time with all of us. And she ended up leaving that house and never visited them. Never even stopped, like just kept going. So the plan was to be there kind of the whole weekend, and she kind of came in, did her thing, and left.

Left for a couple days, and then came back what would be ultimately like a couple days later. So,

Christa Innis: oh my gosh, very much.

Anonymous Guest: Not the plan. Not the plan

Christa Innis: at all. Yeah. Yeah. It’s so crazy. Like looking back, of course, like. I’m just like, she could have avoided all of this by just like responding to her fiance being like, I’m sorry I made her feel that way.

I would love to like, get lunch next week and just like, hear about your wedding plans or, just like, kind of just completely turn it over instead. have like a toddler blocking this out. We’ll have

Anonymous Guest: to, yeah. Yeah. I’ll have to cut this out, but she needs some serious therapy, so I’ll find something else to say.

But I mean, yeah, it definitely like. You could tell she was so upset and she just didn’t know how to process her feelings and or how to navigate the situation in general. And like, I get that. I totally get that. We were all in uncharted territory, so it’s like. We were all processing things and being in this interaction for the very first time.

And so I think it’s important that, we handled it how we felt we could defend and talk about and, be proud of. And, I don’t know if she felt the same way, but it seems as though like she was kind of. Operating on out of fear and like confusion and, we were really trying to make sure that we were clear and concise and kind, you know?

Mm-hmm. Like we didn’t want to create any animosity, but, a lot of it definitely could have been avoided. And especially this whole like buildup to not talking and to not, leaving and not coming and not embracing all this kinda stuff is like, well that’s just hard, you Like none of us really wanted to.

Start back up again after so many weeks kind of thing. But it’s like someone has to do it. That’s why the pantry situation happened was because I was like, we must like do this now. You know? Like it

Christa Innis: get rid of the tension.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah. We have to try. So try.

Christa Innis: Alright, so let’s, let’s talk the pantry moment. So the pantry moment,

Anonymous Guest: this large pantry.

Christa Innis: So. how did that all come about? So eventually she shows up at the house. On a day, like she kind of showed up later to everyone. Like you said, it was kind of weird. She kind of came in and out. Sorry, I’m kind of like looking back at the story. No, ahead. Tell how, tell me how that kind of like all started.

Because I think it started with your, fiance and her talking, right? And then you were kinda like listening in.

 The Pantry Confrontation

Anonymous Guest: I was like, we have to address this. And they had finally just exchanged his birthday gifts It was kind of okay, but we had no, that was in front of everybody and so we had had no, like, one-on-one time with her.

 and so she kind of went in inside and everybody again was sitting outside. And so I was like, well, we should go, we should gotta, we gotta do it. So I was like, go, I’ll be behind you. and. So again, the beginning of the conversation, she kind of thought she was having it with just him. And that’s why the detail about me coming into the pantry was kind of a note because she didn’t realize I was there because like he’s standing in the doorway, she’s inside the pantry and I’m on the outside behind him.

It’s tall, man. So it’s like, she didn’t know I was there. So he kind of says like, we gotta stop this. Like you gotta stop. And so then she starts explaining like how up upset she is and how this has been so upsetting for her she kind of starts venting a lot of her feelings.

And then the first thing that she kind of said that like threw me was she was like, and she said she would send me the address and like, she didn’t send me shit. And so then I was like, well, it’s my time to enter now. And so I hear my name, I’m being summed. Literally. I was like, well, you brought me into it.

Darn it. I’ll join now. So I kind of came around the corner and I was like, well, and I kind of said exactly that, like. Well, it’s not time to enter out. So, like I come in and I was just like,I didn’t even give any words out really before, she kind of came in and she got very close to me and got very aggressive as far as saying like, how dare you speak to me that way.

You know, how dare you talk about a boundary like that kind of referencing our, father’s Day weekend conversation and just essentially saying that like. She couldn’t imagine, speaking, having somebody speak to her that way. And, what the hell is a boundary kind of thing.

And it, what the hell

Christa Innis: is

Anonymous Guest: a

Christa Innis: boundary?

Anonymous Guest: Oh no. like she knows, but she lists like, what the hell, that has nothing to do with this kind of thing. Like, just not understanding the impact of really what I was saying. And she’s like in, you know, very close to my face and I was just like, are you really, like, is this really what you’re gonna do right now?

And my fiance. The man was stunned. The man’s mouth was probably a gate on the ground like, and he is again, he is definitely not a fighter and he’s not like a flight, but he’s definitely someone who just maybe a little bit freezes, especially in this moment. He’s a very like. Confident person. Like he knows how to handle stress really well.

But I think when it comes down to someone that you really didn’t expect it to be from, he just froze in that moment and he said nothing. and so it was just me, you know, me, Duke’s up, got my hands up, I’m so mentally prepared to handle this conversation. I’ve had so much therapy that I was like, I can do this.

and so I was just like. Are you really gonna, approach a conversation like that right now? Like, I am not being aggressive and I don’t have that tone. Like, I just don’t think that’s productive. And, her responses were very aggressive and trying to get her feelings across in a very, like, loud, big way.

 and then I. Lost every, all of my therapy in me and I started rising as well. Hard get to, to a point where you’re just like, whatever. My ears are bright red. I am just like my heart is beating outta my chest because I’m just, I’m trying so hard to contain my thoughts and be clear, but then I’m also being attacked when I’m trying to process that.

my fiance is obviously standing there. I know this is hurting him in some capacity, so it’s like a, culmination of quite a few things that I felt like were like, leaning on my shoulders and I just started apologizing and and I truly felt apologetic like I did, that my intentions maybe were not the result of like what I said or how she felt, and.

 those were just not received well at all either. So all I can do is apologize. All I can do is take ownership of what may have been unintended consequences and like it wasn’t being accepted. So at that point, like, what are we to do? we are not getting anywhere. and we went but I can go in circles for a while and we did.

So we went in circles for a while and then mm-hmm. Ultimately, it ended up kind of coming to a close in that moment, but, not without going on for quite a while before that point, and mind you we’re in a pantry that is extension of a kitchen, extension of a dining room that has got windows that are open to the outside.

So many people, I think, no real confirmation, this pantry has windows. So the pantry door was open. We were standing in the, literally, oh, we were standing in the door and then the kitchen’s open, and then there’s a doorway, and then the doorway goes straight outside. Stop. So did you see

Christa Innis: people walking by and like no one

Anonymous Guest: was in the house.

They knew what was going on, so they were like avoiding it, you know? Yeah, they, did your parents

Christa Innis: know what was going on? Like were they

Anonymous Guest: like everyone did? Yeah. It was sad. My mom actually ended up getting. Really drunk. She’s like so worked up. She was just drinking so much wine. She goes, I got so drunk. And I was just like, you’re crazy.

Like, because she was so worked up because she knows like, I certainly don’t need anybody to step in on my behalf. So she was like not worried about having to do that or. Isn’t really that personality type anyway. But she was just so stressed out by the confrontation and the attention that she like got accidentally drunk.

But I think that they could hear, so, what I know to be true is they could hear parts of it. So I think at that point, we ended up coming to kind of a, close and it didn’t really feel resolved though, at all. and it was just difficult to be like, well, this didn’t really do what we wanted, kind of thing.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Okay, so then the next morning she comes back to the cabin and that’s when you guys talked to her and everything like Yeah. Said that she felt disrespected. mm-hmm. And basically she just kinda leaves saying, I’m happy we talked.

Anonymous Guest: it was hard because. We’d gone kinda the whole day spending the day on the water and before this conversation even happened, and I felt so unresolved.

 It seems as though she kind of came into the day with a cleanish slate and was really trying to put everything behind, but not really, addressing it necessarily enough to put it behind. Mm-hmm. She kind of just said, well, that happened and now it’s over. and so as the day went on, I just kept.

Feeling so much more tension building up, because I was like, how are you going on? As if like, this did not happen yesterday and we had, this is not really resolved. and so I was like, I’m gonna say something. And I was like, I wanna say something. And I was like, I need to right here.

So we kind of, you know, approached it and I just said like, I felt very disrespected by the comments that were made and the way that you spoke to me and the tone that you spoke to me. And I said, essentially I felt like she was. Damaging the relationship that we did have and like to me as a person, like I felt like a wounded bird and somebody’s just like punching it, I just felt as though like I was already down and it just felt like I was getting punched. And so I tried to communicate that I didn’t really feel a lot of, again, apologetic energy from her. it was more so just like trying to find a means to an end or trying to get to the end. Mm-hmm.

Resolution—or Something Like It

And, it was hard. And then as I’m saying things, I’m more verbal processor, but as I’m saying things, I’m trying so hard to get off my chest to say it and to, feel it and to communicate it. And I just kept feeling like my blood pressure rising, like everything was just getting more. And she goes in for a hug and she’s like, I’m so happy.

We talked and I was just like. shaking. Mm-hmm. And like, I was just like, oh my God, I’m gonna die. So it was really hard because I felt like I was trying so hard to do everything the right way. And then finally I get it all out and I feel, no bit better. Like not even a single percent better.

 but we were having tension in the conversation. And then my fiance kind of stepped in and. be more clear and communicate from his perspective. Maybe someone she was more open to listening to. and, you know, he was just kind of shutting down some of the other things that she was saying.

And she, again, more, a little bit more receptive maybe to him. But, the problem definitely was coming from me and maybe my more outspokenness. in general about the situation. So it was, really hard and I was like, well, we, I wasn’t really happy. We talked, I’m happy I said what I said.

But yeah. You know, I don’t feel like immensely better because of it at all. Yeah. So,

Christa Innis: that’s how I, kind of understood it while I was reading it. Yeah, because it seemed very, like you were very open with her, you were very forward with how you felt, and then she was kind of just like.

Okay, happy we talked. Bye now. And I just picture that being like, oh, she’s trying to just brush it, put it under the rug, which I get to a certain extent. Yeah. Like let’s move on. But also like you did a lot, of hurt. You caused a lot of issues. Yeah. The way you acted is gonna create this little barrier now between.

Your son and his future wife. okay, so now let’s get to the new stuff for two part two. Yeah. Yeah. It’s been almost two months. You said since the incident, and you made an appointment to address shopping with your mom, your fiance’s aunt and his mom. When I read that, I was like, whoa. Okay. So she’s still invited, she’s still coming along.

Yeah. How did that go? what’s been going on since?

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, so. I felt as though it was still my responsibility to extend an olive branch or regardless of kind of where our relationship was, that that was something that I had to do, and ultimately it would’ve certainly caused more damage if I didn’t invite her, if she wasn’t a part of it.

and then giving her the opportunity to maybe make some adjustments as to how we’re handling, like wedding stuff. Like if she felt as though something really was wrong in the way she handled, like the venue conversation, stuff like that. Here’s your opportunity to handle it differently. so we did go dress shopping.

 the aunt, the mom, my friend, you guys obviously mentioned the first part like bringing, like a mean friend. I did have a friend there that was like. Prepared to potentially like, fend off any comments or any mm-hmm. attitude from really anybody, ultimately wasn’t needed.

The dress shopping actually went really, really well. She right, I think she just had, had a lot of, big feelings at the time and they’d kind of settled at that point up until then. and that was, you know, like in September. So that was like quite a few months ago now. But, we checked that box, like we did that, and then I continued to dress shop with who I, not who I wanted necessarily, but just like who other groups of people I wanted to go with.

So she kind of went the first time and then proceeded to them, check in and understand like how the process was going for me. ’cause I didn’t buy anything that day as I continued to shop. and that kind of went from there. since then I would say it’s been better. It’s definitely been hard because

it’s not the same as it was. And there’s pieces of me that just feels sad about that and like wondering, like, is it gonna be like this forever or is other situations gonna bring up more explosive feelings? Like, could this happen again essentially? Mm-hmm. and so.

My fiance and I started premarital counseling last end of last year, kind of as this was settling down much after the dress shopping. And we have learned a lot in there together about like this relationship, with us of course, but then with her and our families together and stuff. And so that’s provided us with a lot of like learnings.

And something I’d recommend to literally everyone, doing premarital counseling and then. Talking about like common issues that you guys face together, which this was one that we were facing kind of together. Mm-hmm. And it gave us a lot of clarity. It gave me a lot of clarity as to how like, you know, she was feeling and she was kinda operating out of a state of fear and maybe feeling as so like her son’s finally getting married, kind of feeling.

And so I was like, better. Understood. I think her perspective, and we never really had like a long conversation about like, let’s look back on this kind of thing and I don’t think we ever will. but I’m trying to, understand like what I learned from the situation and how I could take it forward into the future.

And I. If something else happens again with her or any one of our family members, like how, essentially I have the tools and that we have the tools to like get through something like that based on what we’ve learned. So we’re on improving that relationship, with her and, we have, gone up to their house and stayed with them and, spent time with them outside of that.

And it’s, Definitely like more positive than it was. I wouldn’t say it’s just the same as it was before, so. Mm-hmm. But at the same time, like maybe it’s a lesson learned that the, distance and like the separation of. Maybe we don’t need to talk every day, or maybe we don’t need to be involved in every decision was like a huge lesson learned for maybe her or on both sides of just like what this dynamic is now that, he does have a fiance and someone that he’s building a life with and to talk to every day.

And so maybe if you guys aren’t talking as much, it’s because we’re talking a little bit or whatever that looks like. it’s a lot of change, so I totally understand that. But. It’s definitely been more positive than it was then. Like we’re on a small, incline, kind of, like getting

Christa Innis: better, getting back to like how things were.

No, that’s good. And I think that will give a lot of people hope too through like communication and you make a good point too, about. It might never be back to how it was because sometimes when you see a certain side of people or you see how they treat you in a certain way, you’re like, okay, I have to tread these waters lightly because you’re afraid of like, okay, am I going to say the wrong thing or is my boundary going to offend them again?

And so I think it’s smart to like in those moments be like, okay, I am gonna like. Just tread lightly. Keep my distance a little bit. we’re gonna be respectful of each other. so I think your story can help people see that like communication can go far and you can only do so much. Like when someone’s being like, difficult like that.

And just like giving the silent treatment, that was probably her. Working through everything, like what’s happening here. I’ve never been told no like that before or I’ve never had a boundary set against me. Or they think like, oh, a boundary means I’m a terrible person. I’m not a terrible person. Yeah. And so they immediately get like defensive.

So I feel like you are so like gracious with her, like giving them like time and like space to like, I mean, not necessarily like you asked for time and space, but she just No.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah.

Christa Innis: But yeah, I think sharing these stories are good. Like we were kind of talking about before recording, it’s like sharing these stories are good because.

Anonymous Guest: People that are going through something similar can be like, oh, okay, I’m not crazy. I went through something like this. Or I am a mom and I was crossing the boundary for my son-in-law, or my daughter-in-law. yeah, I feel we learned a lot on how to tackle maybe quote unquote problems as a couple.

’cause I feel like most often people either. seek help in the relationship. ’cause they’re obviously fighting with each other. but this was kind of a common thing that we were going through together. And so it was something that was very difficult in terms of balancing, well, this is his mom and his relationship.

So a lot of what we’ve learned, I think, kind of moving forward is that like we each deal with our own families. and mine’s not, absolved to the drama. Like there’s stuff there too. And, I think that. I deal with that and he deals with his, and it’s not so much that we are individuals dealing with our, it’s just because what we’ve found or what I found is that like families can probably be more receptive coming from their own family members.

So, kind of crossing that communication, like me talking directly to her is not a problem, but could probably be, be better received. Potentially became from him. Mm-hmm. So we started kind of saying, well if as long as you feel the same way, if we feel the same way, and this is a situation that happened with both of us, like you can handle it.

or you can address it or what that looks like. it changes every situation. But that was a big lesson learned. And then. I’ve done a lot of like work and under justand understanding relationships, and there’s just like a path to expressing yourself and then letting it go that you kind of have to follow when you cannot change what people think.

You cannot change how people react. And so the best thing you can do is, be clear and say how you feel, focus on the outcome that you want to get out of it, but. If you want to change people’s emotions in a situation, like you have to stop That’s not something that you can change.

you can only focus on, if you want an apology or do you want to be listened to, but like, you cannot change, you cannot ask for empathy. You cannot ask for understanding. Like those things are not something that you can ask for. Mm-hmm. And then if, like those things are happening and the situation becomes reactive, you kind of have to walk away.

So again, learned a lot from the situation that in general I think it’s just good life advice and relationship advice. But I think there is hope, for other people dealing with this situation and or even dealing with conflict like this in general, it. I think it’s just all about like using those emotional intelligence tools in order to have, productive conversations on difficult topics and

Christa Innis: mm-hmm.

Strengthen

Anonymous Guest: your relationship from within. So when you deal with stuff like this, it’s not me versus you, or it’s not us versus anybody, it’s just, Kind of just more communication than this tension and this big, outburst or this big long situation.

Christa Innis: So, yeah. Yeah. No, I feel like those were such great like parting words that people can hold onto that advice.

’cause like we all could use a little therapy and I feel like that was like very helpful, like to just take to our own relationships. ’cause especially a lot of people that listen. Have either dealt with this kind of situation or similar situations, or they might in the future. so I think it’s helpful to know, you know, we can’t control other people’s emotions.

All we can do is control ourselves and how we can communicate essentially. So,

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, there’s hope. There’s hope. I mean, it’s gotten better and I assume it’s going to continue getting better. but I think at the end of the day, like this situation happens because somebody cares. So deeply and in some capacity it comes from a very good place.

So it’s difficult as it presents itself, either out of fear or anxiety or sadness, but ultimately like the core emotion is different, or just there’s a lot of change going on, stuff like that. So I feel as though like the intention is always. Mostly always good. and you kind of have to sink back into that and say, well, what can I do to best understand this person?

Knowing that they’re coming from a good place? And if you know they’re not coming from a good place, just don’t interact. Mm-hmm. Just take a step back, stay as far away as possible and until you feel as though that’s the situation, because it’s just probably won’t go anywhere. But yeah. 

Christa Innis: Don’t waste your energy on people like that, that are just trying to make you feel bad.

Yeah, exactly. Awesome. Well thank you so much for coming on and being vulnerable and sharing. I really appreciate it and you speak so well and I feel like, we talked about, like there’s so much to learn from this situation, but I feel like you came out of it like stronger, you learned a lot and I feel like it’s great just seeing that you’re applying it now to like future things.

 so I really appreciate you coming on and sharing.

Anonymous Guest: No, thank you. Thank you so much for having me. And honestly, like I just hope. This helps anyone, so just happy to be here.

Christa Innis: Yeah.


Baby Bumps, Brawls & Breaking the System with Payal Desai

She wore the same color as the bride—intentionally. Payal Desai joins Christa for a no-holds-barred conversation on gender expectations, cultural clashes, and the wild moments that weddings bring out in people.

From viral videos on dismantling patriarchal parenting to surviving chaotic family traditions, Payal shares what it’s like to raise sons in a world obsessed with “mama’s boys.” She even dishes on the unexpected wedding sabotage she experienced firsthand.

This episode dives deep into family roles, wedding faux pas, and why boundaries are the real bridal registry essential. Get ready to rethink what’s “normal” at the altar and beyond.

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

02:33 Breaking Gender Norms and Patriarchy

06:17 Wedding Drama and Toxic Traditions

10:53 Personal Wedding Stories and Etiquette

17:11 Navigating Online Criticism and Trolls

28:57 Challenging Traditional Gender Roles in Marriage

31:44 Discussing Cooking and Household Roles

32:54 Generational Perspectives on Gender Roles

34:14 Personal Stories of Independence

36:08 The Value of Stay-at-Home Moms

38:05 Wedding Story Submission

46:23 Wedding Planning Confessions

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Dusty Son Series Origins – Payal unpacks the viral moment that sparked her mission to dismantle toxic gender expectations.
  • The Color Clash – Someone close to Payal showed up to her wedding wearing her exact dress color—after being told not to.
  • Wedding Traditions That Go Off the Rails – Learn how fun customs can turn violent when underlying family tensions boil over.
  • Cake Smash or Red Flag? – Why some “playful” wedding moments are actually warning signs.
  • Mother of the Groom Drama – A deep dive into the overbearing “boy mom” trope and why it needs to stop.
  • Navigating Internalized Misogyny – Payal shares how her early marriage exposed unexpected insecurities—and how she overcame them.
  • Thank You Notes & Gendered Labor – Who’s really responsible for post-wedding etiquette?
  • Creating Equity in Marriage – From laundry to lasagna, Payal and Christa get real about modern partnership dynamics.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “Why are we putting all the pressure on the bride? Thank you notes aren’t gendered.”Christa Innis
  • “If you need a bridesmaid to hold your boundaries, get her.”Christa Innis
  • “We don’t need to stick with tradition if it’s rooted in discomfort.” – Christa Innis
  • “The day you get married shouldn’t feel like performance art for everyone else.” – Christa Innis
  • “I thought wedding content would be niche, but it touches everything—boundaries, parenting, even gender norms.” – Christa Innis
  • “If my content offends you, ask yourself why—what is it bringing up?” – Payal Desai
  • “I wasn’t going to let anyone take my moment, no matter what they wore.” – Payal Desai
  • “We have internalized misogyny, and it shows up in the smallest domestic decisions.” – Payal Desai
  • “The wedding doesn’t make the marriage—no matter how big it is.” – Payal Desai
  • “Being a stay-at-home mom is unpaid labor, but it has value—and we need to talk about that.”Payal Desai

About Payal

Payal Desai, known online as @Payalforstyle on Instagram and TikTok, is the creator of the viral “Dusty Son” series—a hilarious and honest look at breaking down traditional gender roles, starting at home with her own sons. Her content has racked up millions of likes and caught the attention of major media outlets and talk shows for its bold take on everyday dynamics within families.

A sharp-witted cultural commentator, Payal uses humor to spotlight the invisible labor women carry and to challenge outdated expectations with unfiltered honesty. There’s no dramatic backstory—just a mom calling it like she sees it and making a lot of people laugh (and think) along the way.

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Christa Innis: Hello. Thank you so much for joining me today.

Payal Desai: Thank you for having me. I’m super excited for our conversation.

Christa Innis: I am so excited. I’ve been following your content for a long time now, and I think, and we’ll get into it, but I feel like there’s so much, like so much important messaging that you have mm-hmm. In your content, and that is one of the reasons why I thought it was so important to have you on. But before we get to all that, can you just introduce yourself, who you are, what you do, and we’ll kind of get into it.

Payal Desai: So I’m Payal, my handle on socials is Payal for style and I am a teacher. I taught for 16 years, teacher turned content creator.

This is my first year out of the classroom doing my content full-time on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. And I really focus on, dispelling breaking traditional gender roles and norms. And challenging, ideals of the patriarchy. I have two boys and so I don’t believe that those things in society benefit them.

And so we do things very differently in our home, but we’re trying to normalize it.

Christa Innis: Yes, I love that. And that is why I thought you were so perfect for this because a lot of these, like crazy wedding drama stories I see have to do with Mothers of the Groom and not to point. Mm-hmm. Because I know people get really offended by that, but I think it’s really important.

The message that you share about teaching your sons and how they can treat, you know, like empowering them in different ways of like. Not just mama’s little boy. Mm-hmm. Do no wrong. Boys will be boys. So I think you have such important messages that people need to see.

Payal Desai: Yeah, absolutely. And my, my question to that would be like if you are, ’cause a lot of people are very offended by my content.

If you’re offended, ask yourself why. Like, why. what offends you? Why does it upset you to bring up these topics of like, mothers who are overbearing or say things like, my son will be my slowest heartbreak. Like, what? Why are we need to talk about that? That’s not healthy. And yeah, so. We need to ask ourselves those questions too.

Christa Innis: I know. I was just saying to someone like I do a mix of like when I share like different wedding stories, I do a mix. Like one might be like a bridesmaid drama, one might be a mother of the groom, one might be a stepmother, and when I post mother of the groom, I get messages sent to me that are like, how dare you just target mothers of the groom?

You know, there’s drama with other people too. Or this is exhausted, they’ll like comment that’s not like, why are you. Offended though, because if I see Yeah, a video about like a Bridezilla, I’m not gonna be like, oh my gosh, why would you talk about this? Because I’m like, I didn’t act that way, so I don’t mm-hmm.

I don’t feel offended. But I think it’s such an important topic of this like, boy, mom. Of, oh, the bride’s not good enough or, yes. putting them down, or like, my son’s a prince, he can do no wrong.

Payal Desai: Mm-hmm.

Christa Innis: but the daughter, you know, it’s, it’s her fault.

 

Payal Desai: Yeah, absolutely. Like I have the series that went viral for me was the Dusty Sun Series and the original video that I had.

Scene was a mom teaching her son how to cook so that your dusty daughter’s Stouffer’s lasagna won’t impress him. And so I saw that and I was like, what are we doing? Like already you have this hypothetical daughter-in-law that you are demeaning and putting down, you don’t even like your child is. Five years old and you’re teaching him how to cook so that some girl in the future who’s dusty, can’t like, who isn’t capable of taking care of him.

What? So I saw that and I was like, we’ve gotta flip this narrative like that. We need to empower our boys. To take care of themselves. Yes. But we also need to empower them to respect their partners. And so I just wanted to flip that whole narrative and now the series is like over two years strong because there’s a lot of ground to cover.

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. It’s like there’s so much learning from it, but I feel like there’s still, it’s like, there’s like a hard area of like, I dunno, hard. Shell to crack, I should say. There’s still some people that are like, won’t see that way. of like how it can be very toxic to, raise their sons to think like, you can do no wrong.

It’s, you know. Mm-hmm. It’s up to your standards. Like, of course we should have standards, but like, that’s not just a man thing. Like we should all have standards for our right course. but I think it gets very, very construed. Absolutely. I agree. So let’s talk like jump right into some different crazy stories and some wedding hot takes.

So starting off the bat, do you have any kind of crazy wedding stories, either things that you’ve seen or witnessed or had at your own wedding?

When Wedding Traditions Turn Violent

Payal Desai:  Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, in Indian traditional weddings, one of the traditions is that the bride side will, steal the groom’s shoes as they are entering the ceremony.

And the way that the groom then retrieves his shoes is by paying like the bridesmaids, the cousins, the sisters, the family. He is like kind of earning his way back into the family and. This is supposed to be a very playful, fun tradition. Usually like everyone knows it’s gonna happen. So like there, you know, you steal the shoes and then you get kind of chased around and then the groom finally eventually like hands off the money, gets his shoes back.

But when there are underlying tensions, this can get. Like violent. And I have literally been to a wedding where there were underlying tensions. I don’t think that everyone in the room wanted the marriage to happen. And when it came to that point, like it was a brawl. It was a brawl like it was. Fists being thrown, like people on the floor.

 yeah, it was awful. And it just, you know, it was not the joyous moment that you would think it would be. so clearly it revealed that there was a lot of tension in play.

Christa Innis: That’s what like a lot of those like traditional things, like I was just talking to some of like how the bouquet toss can sometimes get that way too.

Mm-hmm. Where I feel like it’s like either built up Yes. Or like these, like women like have rivals with each other. or men at the wedding or like, oh, for during the, garter toss. Like, I’m gonna put Yeah. Guy outta the way and they get violent. ’cause it’s like, that’s.

I don’t know. It’s like their time. They’re like, oh, it’s okay though. this is tradition. It’s allowed.

Payal Desai: Yeah. Or even like one that I’ve seen lately, like pop up on socials is like a little different, but it’s when the bride and groom are feeding each other cake and like when the groom like takes icing and like smashes it or like puts it all over her face or, it’s just like red flag, but like too late because the ceremony’s over and so.

I feel so bad for those women because I just think it’s like a precursor. Like that’s not funny. Yeah, that’s not funny.

Christa Innis: That is, that’s looking to embarrass you. Yeah, and they’re like almost inserting their dominance now being like, ha ha. Because I saw one too where it was like they had literally talked about it for the wedding, so she must have already had some kind of gut feeling or a red flag of being like, he might do this.

Hey, I don’t want you to do this. I’m not comfortable, or whatever. And he still did it. And then you can see the resistance, like you can see them like fighting. Yeah. And you’re like, what hap okay, if this happens in front of all these people, what’s happening behind closed doors?

Payal Desai: Exactly. If he’s gonna publicly humiliate you on your most important day, one of the days, you deemed to be your most important.

Right. Man, I can’t even, so, yeah.

Christa Innis: I feel like that also, it’s like those, I have, there’s like speeches by grooms that I’ve seen that you’re like, they’re using this as like a way to like. Almost, it’s like they didn’t wanna get married, so they’re gonna make a speech about like, oh, she’s so lucky to have me.

Like, I just saw ve where the guy, all he did was talk about like him being there with his boys and never once said, my wife looks beautiful. He literally looked at her and goes, you look all right. Yeah. It’s not funny. Oh, that’s his humor. Like, I don’t think so. Like that’s not the time. Mm-hmm. Like, tell your wife she looks beautiful on her wedding day.

Like, I don’t know.

Payal Desai: Yeah. I mean, I think that if you are. Worried or concerned about the way that your partner is going to behave on the day of the wedding, and that’s like a foremost concern for you. That in itself is a red flag. Yes. You need to think about why you are so concerned about what even if like alcoholism in play or whatever like.

Why, why is this an issue? Like it shouldn’t be.

Christa Innis: Yes. No, absolutely. If you are concerned that something’s gonna happen or

Payal Desai: Yeah,

Christa Innis: like maybe let’s ask ourselves what’s going on here? Becausefeel like so many times in these stories that I see, it’s like they’re just so excited to get married, which I get, it’s a very mm-hmm.

Thing, but. Let’s like not sacrifice like our own happiness just to get married and just to jump to that finish line or that next step. Because I feel like you see all these wedding videos and you’re like, oh no, they just did this to like, and now they’re gonna embarrass them and during their vows or something.

 Yeah. Yeah. What other, did you have another story that you wanted to share? Like, or anything else that you’ve seen at weddings?

Twins on My Wedding Day?

Payal Desai: Yeah, so one thing that personally happened to me, Indian traditional weddings, the bride wears red, and I chose to wear like this fuchsia pink color specifically because that’s the color that my mom wore as well at her wedding.

So I was like, oh, I’m gonna like break the mold a little bit. But it’s still like a very bright, vibrant, like. Magenta, pinkish kind of color. And so that was the color of my Ari and I was super excited to wear it. I had told a bunch of people that, you know, like my friends bridesmaids, like all of that.

Like I had told everyone that this is the color that I was wearing. So I, it’s not like it was a secret. I had shared it. Somebody in pretty close proximity to the, wedding party. I’m not going to say who showed up when we were doing family photos and had that, like when I say to the t exact shade on, I’m not exaggerating even a little bit.

Oh. And it was somebody who I had shared that I was wearing, like I had sent a photo of my pic, my outfit to, and I was just like, in that mo I was shocked, like. Twins. What? I don’t wanna be like, I trust studio. I don’t wanna be twins with anyone on my wedding day. And I was very, very upset about it. but you know, this is pre ceremony, so we’re, this is the morning of like, what am I supposed to do?

I also wasn’t going to like tell them to change, but I just was seething inside and one of my best friends was like. This isn’t on you. Like everyone’s gonna look at this and be like, what were they thinking? Yeah. Not, not, this isn’t a reflection of you. You’ve gotta remember that. And I was like, I’m still mad.

Um, so then the day went on and I had, there were so many other things that I had to obviously prioritize and focus on. And I’m very much like, I need, I wanna see the best in the situation. I don’t wanna react. Um. So I didn’t. Okay. I didn’t, and I, you know, I never really even confronted the person either.

Um, but now it’s been like 13 years. So it’s not that I’m over it, but I just like, I don’t think about it anymore. Like I, whatever. It’s just, it’s just also something like, I wouldn’t do that, you know? So, yeah.

Christa Innis: Just like, especially the fact that you shared it with this person and you were like very open about like, Hey, this is the color I’m wearing because my mom wore it.

And for them to come in, like, I feel like I’d be very like, similar to you or like, I wouldn’t wanna cause like a stir that day, even though you’re not the one causing it. But like Yeah, it’s like you don’t wanna say anything ’cause you’re like, that could just make the, the day kind of Yes. Surrounded around that.

Payal Desai: My reaction would have, and I think that this is something that happens often, like when you’re upset about something and it’s the day of, like your reaction is a reflection, right? So like, you kind of, if it’s, if you know that it’s something that has to be said, then fine react. But like, I just, there was nothing to do about this.

I, what was I gonna say? You know? Yeah. It felt like. I felt kind of like there was no point in making it an issue, but yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I know those things are so hard because like even when I do like skits of like stories that people send me, they’re like, I hate that the bride didn’t say anything. And it’s like, I get it.

You want to say something, but at the same time, it’s like if you chose that moment to like,

Payal Desai: mm-hmm.

Christa Innis: Make a scene about it. Then it just, like, I feel like then there’s just like awkward tension and I feel like, yeah, maybe you can like confront it later, but it’s like, at that point, the, the day’s over. I don’t know.

Payal Desai: Yeah. I mean, I’m all, I’m about protecting my peace, like I’m about protecting my energy and my peace. I’ve always been that way, so I was like, ain’t nothing gonna ruin my day. Like, I, I’m gonna keep vibing. I also think that that helps me to. Also own the moment. Like, this is my moment. Like no one’s taking it from me no matter what you’re wearing.

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I totally get that. Um, yeah, no, that is, that’s crazy. I’ve, I’ve heard of similar things happening. I’ve never mm-hmm. A wedding where, where that happens. But like, even with, um, someone told me a story where the mother of the bride came wearing like a wedding gown and no one knew. And so like.

It was like this white wedding gown that literally ma like, oh my God. It was like fancier than the bride. And, but it was like one of those things too where like, I don’t think she said anything, but it was more like everyone just knew like this mom was being outrageous. Like what

Payal Desai: is going on? There’s like, on one hand it’s like, of course you take pride in what you wear and you wanna show up to your child’s wedding looking bomb.

Like in the future, I, I, I’m a fashion girly, like I’m gonna Yeah. Care a lot what I wear to, you know, either of my son’s like big events. Right. But it’s, it’s another, um. It’s another idea to like try to show others up or try to show anybody up. And I see that too. Like whenever you have a mom of the groom, I, I follow this one woman and she had done like a series of videos where she was trying to choose a dress for her son’s wedding and the hate in the comments because like some of the dresses were like way more fashion forward or modern or like, she just looked good in them.

People were tearing her apart. And I feel like two ways about that because I don’t know what her intentions are. I don’t think she’s like, I can’t assume she’s trying to show up her daughter-in-law. Right.

Christa Innis: But I don’t know. I know people always like to assume like the worst online, but that’s the thing.

It’s like, yeah, if it was the complete opposite, people would have something to say too. That’s like how people are online. It’s great. You can never appease people online. Oh yeah. They’re just gonna like critique. Anything I’ve try, I’m like, learn, I’m like at a point where I’m like really trying to learn to like, have boundaries with like reading comments and like mm-hmm.

Say things. ’cause I, I take everything to heart and my husband’s like, you, like, you let it affect you so much. And like, so someone says something to me and I’m like, it’ll like weigh down on me. So I’m like, I’m really like learning Yeah. Boundaries with that stuff. Because like, people online, like the bullies, they don’t matter.

They’re sitting behind a keyboard trying to just Yes. Sit down. Well,

Payal Desai: honestly, a lot of trolls are like literally teenagers. I’m not lying to you, like online. A lot of trolls are like high school boys. Um, and I know that because I, I taught middle and high school. I, I know that. And so whenever, sometimes I’m like going like at dad with like a troll online, I’m like.

Is this person 15 years old and like up too, too late past their bedtime? And then he kind of gives me a little perspective and I’m like. A backup. Like you really don’t know who’s behind the screen doesn’t just, you gotta let it go.

Christa Innis: Do you think being a teacher, like really like humbled you and like, gave you like a harder exterior at all to things?

I remember. Oh yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say, one of my friends is a teacher and high school and she was like, sometimes they’ll say things where they don’t like mean to be mean, but then I’m later like, oh, like, they’ll be like, oh, I’ve never seen a style be pulled off that way. Or they’ll be, they’ll say something like, oh yeah, that’s almost like.

Wait, was that an insult?

Payal Desai: Oh my God, yes. I mean, a hundred percent spot on. Two things prepared me to like be publicly on the internet with a large audience. Okay. Uh, I’m the youngest of three. I have two older sisters. Okay. So that, that did me in and then I taught middle and high school. Yes. Like I would get my hair cut and go to school and they kids would be like, why’d you get your hair cut?

Okay. That’s not the reaction I was looking for. You’re like, thank you. Why are you wearing that? What, and it was just like, it really does like dishearten you, like, you’re like, okay. And it, we would just, I’d laugh it off like, what, what am I gonna take offense? So I find that that tough exterior really helps me.

Yeah. Online.

Christa Innis: I love the thought of, I should just start picturing mm-hmm. Comments as like 13-year-old kids and I’ll just feel like bad I’m taking, telling you you that yes, that is

Payal Desai: like, that’s a huge population that’s on the internet, so it could very likely be 18 age.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Kid. Oh my gosh, I do. I feel like it’s either that or it’s like older, like my parents’ age sometimes that leave me comments, but I’ve had a few, I’ve had a few like apologize, and they’re like, I was having a bad day.

I’m like, it’s all good. You know what? Oh, I

Payal Desai: love that. That’s always really great when like all of a sudden you’re friendly with your troll, you know? Yeah. Like I’ve had those moments too, where we like. I go back and forth and it’s like ugly and I don’t know what I, why I’m even participating in this. And then like one, one person will be like, listen, I, you sound like you’re hurting and something might be going on with you.

And they’re like, yeah, I am hurting. And I’m like, oh my God, what a beautiful connection with a draw. Right? Do you see the friend you, we need to connect. And that’s gotta be the middle school experience too, because a kid could be awful. And then like obviously the next day. I’m not holding the grudge. It’s a kid.

So you know, you like resolve and repair and move on. Yes,

Christa Innis: yes. Oh my gosh. A lesson for everybody listening. Picture them as just like a kid, just like learn

Payal Desai: growing and that’s some top tier content creator advice right there. If you are trying to be online, then like Yeah. If you go, you got a picture of the troll as a kid.

Christa Innis: Yes. Oh my gosh. I love that. Okay, let’s go into some wedding hot takes, and then we’re gonna get into this week’s story, which I’ve not read yet, but, um, I, I think it’s a doozy. It’s gonna be a good one. Okay. Okay, so, um, wedding writing, drama, debates. Um, so here are some unpopular opinions that people have sent us.

And let’s see. Um, this first one says, brides should always pay for hair and makeup if they’re offering it for their bridal party.

Payal Desai: Is it, if it’s a choice, it like, do they have a choice in it or. It’s like the bride wants them to all be uniform. I

Christa Innis: think if the bride wants them to get hair and makeup, they’re saying that the bride should pay for

Payal Desai: it. Mm-hmm. I think so, because I’ve been in weddings where it’s like, you have, I want everyone’s hair to look like this.

I want everyone’s makeup to look like this, and if you’re gonna dictate what you want me to look like, then you should probably flip the bill.

Christa Innis: Yeah. No, I agree with that. I’ve never been in a wedding where. It was like you had to get your hair and makeup done. It was always an option. So I’ve always just,

Payal Desai: mm-hmm.

Christa Innis: There’s been somewhere I’ve just done my own, but, or I’ll just pay for it. But my own wedding, I told them, I was like, I’m getting a makeup artist that’ll be there and a and a hair girl. If you guys want it, let me know. If not, yeah. Feel free. Um, that’s exactly what I did too. Yeah. I did the same. Because then it’s like they don’t have pressure and I feel like too, like, um, luckily, like, I mean, a lot of people knew the makeup artist at my wedding, like a lot.

She kind of like went through our friend group, but like, you go to some weddings and the makeup, like, it’s just, you feel, you don’t feel like yourself or you know. Mm-hmm. And especially as a bridesmaid, you don’t have like a trial. So it’s, it can be, I get it. If you’re better at doing makeup, just, just do that.

Payal Desai: Yeah, I agree with that.

Christa Innis: Okay, this next one, thank you. Cards are unnecessary.

Payal Desai: Okay, so for my wedding, thank you cards for after, right. I split it down and I was like, you do your side. I’m gonna do mine. Oh, smart. I’m not right. Okay. Indian weddings are huge. I had 500 people at my wedding. Oh my gosh. You would have like that hand cramp.

Yeah, like carpal tunnel. Carpal tunnel. There we go. Writing cards. And again, like I’m the youngest of three. My older sister, she and her wedding cards printed personalized photos from her. So she got her photographer to make sure that they got photos of like everybody at the wedding. And then she found photos of like different people who attended with them.

The couple. Printed them and put them in the thank you cards. I was like, no. Okay. Nope. Not doing that. Like, that’s like really cute and thoughtful. Not for me. Okay. So then I was like, and then I took in a step further. I was like, well, I got my side. You can take care of yours because I’m not right. Like everyth, everything for me has always been like split down the middle and I’m for love that it, it works for us, right?

Like. There was a point where I thought that I needed to, as the woman of the house, needed to do all the laundry. ’cause that’s what I saw growing up, right? Like my dad didn’t pick up any of his laundry. My mom did everything. And so I was like, when it comes to laundry, like I’ve gotta do it all. It took me like two months of being married to be like.

I’m getting my own bin. You do yours. I do mine. From that day on, like, and now the boys like, well, my 9-year-old does his own and my four year old’s learning. That’s amazing. Okay, let’s go. And my husband grew up learning how to do his own laundry too. So he was like, yeah, what we, I’ll do my own. So I was like, okay.

But yeah, it’s all these like traditional things, right? So anyway, I did send mine out, TBD if he ever sent his out 13 years ago. I really, you know what? At that point, like I’m, that’s not, I’m sorry. If you think that’s a reflection of me. No, I It’s not.

Christa Innis: It’s not. Yes. I love that you’ve said that because so many people put it on the woman and then it’s your responsibility to then double check with him, oh, did they get sent out?

Or this? It’s like, no, I. That’s what we decided. And that was it. Because I’ve, this is like a mini story, but one of my friends, and hopefully it’s okay with me sharing this, I mean, I’m not gonna say who it is, but she said when she, like first married her husband, um, one of his aunts said to her, oh, and she had something like, very traumatic happened after the wedding.

Again, I don’t wanna say details, but it was like a very, it was a, a family thing that happened. So she was dealing with a lot like two weeks after the wedding. This aunt of her husband came up to her and said like, I didn’t get a thank you note from you yet, and she was like. Um, I’ve been kind of going through a lot and the aunt was just like, well, it’s your duty to get that out to me.

And meanwhile she’s like, why don’t you ask your nephew? Like, why are you me? And it’s just like this, like pressure on the woman to be like, mm-hmm. You have to get that out. Do no mind. It’s two only two weeks after the wedding or a couple weeks after the wedding, something bad happened. You know, it’s just like, why are we putting this pressure.

Kin Keeping and Traditional Women Roles

Payal Desai: Yeah, I, I don’t buy into that stuff at all. Again, that’s called kin keeping, right? Like when you are, and kin keeping is oftentimes placed, the burden is placed on the woman to keep the family together. You’re here. So now you need to work on all the con correspondences that occur to ensure that thank you cards are sent out, or invitations or birthday cards and like, so if, I feel like if you normalize all of that right in the beginning of your marriage, like.

That’s gonna now be your task for the rest of time. And if you’re good at it, like, listen, there are, I think my sister who put the photos, personalized photos, I think she took joy in it. Yes. Do it. Yeah. I don’t take joy. I’m not doing it. You know, I, I think that that’s fine. Like if, even if it’s a traditional role, but you really enjoy it and love it.

Then for sure go ahead and do it. I’m not try like digging my heels in just because I wanna, you know, like challenge the system. It’s just what didn’t work for us versus what works for other people.

Christa Innis: Yeah, absolutely. And that all being said though, too, I am a huge proponent of Thank you. Thank you cards myself, I.

Because I, I see, I see different things all the time. It’s like if you thank someone in person, like for kids’ birthday parties, I get like,

Payal Desai: mm-hmm.

Christa Innis: Moms are busy. We, we can’t always get thank you notes out. I get that. So if you thank someone in person for a gift or they open it, sure. Like that’s, I get it for a wedding, I think for us, like.

We just like had an Excel file and like, this is how like type A I am. And I was like, I’ll just write 10, 10 a week. And then like my husband would like label and he would like, like seal and like stamp ’em or something and we were just like, let’s just get ’em out. ’cause like, but that’s really

Payal Desai: good. That’s teamwork.

I love that.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Well, and it’s funny how you were talking about the laundry thing with your husband. Like with us it was like, I would, I als also like automatically put the stuff on my plate and my husband would be like. You know, I’m here. I, I can sit here with you and do it. And I was like, you like what?

Mm-hmm. Why would you do that with me? And he’s like, because I’m your husband. I’m here. And I’m like, oh, okay. And it’s stuff like, I don’t share on my personal page and stuff, but like people, I feel like people have a feel day knowing that he probably does the laundry more than I do. He probably thinks more than I do.

Like we, we split most stuff, but like, it’s just like we.

Payal Desai: We found what works for us and Exactly. And like, if that’s what works for you, then that’s great like that then that’s really all that matters. I’ve been thinking so much, like, not to go way too deep, but like I’ve been thinking about how like everyone really has internalized misogyny within us, especially like the way that I grew up and what I saw as like, um, you know, in front of me modeled.

Everyone has internalized misogyny. And one way that it showed up in my marriage is that my husband loves to cook and he always has. And so when we got married, that was sort of the role that he just like naturally took. And um, so we would meal plan together and everything, but like then he would like really execute the dish.

And I did not want like anyone to know about this. I did not want his parents to know, like I didn’t wanna make it a topic. I didn’t wanna tell, tell my mom because every time it came up socially, like it made me feel like I. It made me look bad. Mm-hmm. Like I wasn’t fulfilling my duty. And there was even one time we hosted his family over and I made him tell them that I come to the lasagna and he was like, okay.

Like I’ll tell them that’s okay. Like I’ll tell them that you made it. And like, I had not, I had assisted, I had sous chef. I was not doing it. And like, it still counts, but like, yeah. That’s the, that. I was so worried about how people view traditional roles that,

Christa Innis: oh my gosh, I feel so

Payal Desai: seen right now.

Christa Innis: I,

Payal Desai: I still, yeah.

It’s taken me a really long time to just now proudly be like, yeah, and it, it comes from women a lot of times, like women will make snide remarks and be like, well, he’s the one that cooks. Yes. Okay. Like, if I bring a dish to a potluck with friends, they’ll be like, well, what did he make? This is my husband.

What did he make? He made a buffalo chicken dip and it’s really good. Yes. So like, the way, the tone in which it’s shared or like just giving him credit, I’m like, why? What are we doing? Like, we have, there’s internalized misogyny in us.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I think it’s too, um, couples that maybe haven’t, you know, openly have that conversation of like, you know, maybe the woman does everything.

Mm-hmm. They almost feel like. I don’t know the right word to say, but like, when they hear someone, like someone’s husband does, does do some cooking, they’re like, oh, well my husband can do that. And so it’s like an instant, like they’re angry that it’s not working out for them. ’cause, and I, I’m not gonna say who, but there was someone close to me that like, when they found out my husband like cooked dinner for us one night, they were like, like to their husband.

They were like, oh, well you never cook for me. Mm-hmm. And it was just like this like awkward moment. ’cause I was like. Uh, uh. Okay. Like, I don’t know. Yeah. Yeah. Like, he just always, like, that’s the same, like, my husband really enjoys cooking. And cooking for me has always been like second nature. Like I do okay if I like focus, but it’s just not my, I don’t find complete joy in it.

Payal Desai: I don’t, I don’t find joy. I really don’t. It’s just nothing. I’ve never really found joy in it. Um. And I think that when you are in a partnership like we’ve been talking about, like when one person has a strength and they take it on, it’s not as though he’s in the kitchen like doing everything on his, I’m like, behind, I’m cleaning.

I’m sure you do dishes. I’m sure you’re like part of it because you both have to be part of it. Yeah. So I think that when people know he cooks, they just picture me like laying on the couch. We have two children. Somebody’s giving them baths, like somebody’s doing something. There’s always something. My hands are never just idle, you know?

Um, but whenever we know that a man is taking on a very traditional role, we automatically are not. We Society is, wants to criticize that. I don’t understand it. I really don’t get it

Christa Innis: 100%. I feel like there’s so much more discourse about that now and the older generations that almost didn’t really have a choice where it was just like the, the man goes to work, he comes home, dinner should be ready on the table, maybe even like older.

’cause I. I think, I don’t know. I think my parents’ generation was kind of starting to like equal a little bit, but it’s like grandparents’ generation for sure. It was like dinner on the table when you get home. Mom takes care of the kids and so now that they’re seeing this conversation, people that I feel like.

It worked for them, and they’re like, why can’t, why can’t the wife just be cooking? Why can’t this happen? It’s like, mm-hmm.

Payal Desai: You gotta, you gotta question who was it really working for? Who was, who remained extremely comfortable in the way that it was. Like, if we wanna sit here and assume or make the, uh, statements about how happy our grandmas were mm-hmm.

Cross culture, they were not. Right. They, they were oftentimes burdened without a choice. Yes. There’s not a lot of happiness in that. Okay. So you gotta just like, be able to critically talk about these things and not just be like, why can’t it just be like traditional?

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh well. Well, a hundred percent.

Yeah. I feel, yeah, I feel like, um, I kind of had, I don’t share a lot of my personal. Life on out here. But like, I’ve had kind of like two different, like molds when it came to my grandparents. And like my grandmother I’m really close to, um, she, I don’t even know when it was, I was a kid when she got divorced, but she, she’s always taught like such independence, like she’s done everything for herself.

And so I really like. I feel like I learned a lot from her. Yeah. She was like, women can do everything. Like she was an ER nurse and she’s like, mm-hmm. I knew more than the doctors. Doctors would try to come in and they would try to, these men would try to tell me what I knew, and she’s like, I knew more than them.

Yeah. And I was like, yeah, you go girl. And she was like, you just have, she just really, I feel like, brought a lot of that, that out of me, because I’m like, yes, not tra, she’s not traditional in that way. So I was like. Yes, we need that. That’s amazing.

Payal Desai: And rare, right? Like I’m sure for her generation that was a little rare and maybe even getting divorced was not accepted by society.

’cause it, it wasn’t as common for her generation, the next generation. Yes. It became like more common because, because. Women were no longer tolerating and like joining the work for like full-time. You have two parents who are working full-time and if the domestic labor is not, if there is an equity in that, then it’s going to cause conflict as it should.

Yes. Yeah,

Christa Innis: definitely. Oh my gosh, I feel like we could talk about this forever. I love it. Oh my God. Yeah. Like I, I’m so like, passionate about it just because like. I feel like it makes such a difference in the way like. I’m able to parent because my husband’s an equal part. Mm-hmm. And I just, I, um, I feel like so many women can’t speak up about that or they’re just, we’re kind of pushed into the role of

Payal Desai: mm-hmm.

Christa Innis: And this is not, I feel like stay-at-home moms are amazing and I think they’re, if that is your passion and goal and like, do it. Yes. But so many are pushed into that role without asking if that’s what they want or if they want. More. And I know I can get on a whole topic

Payal Desai: from that. I really could too, because I think that a stay at home mom, it, we need to start looking at that as a literal job with duties.

And you would never be working somebody around the clock, right? Like you would never give them 24 7 tasks like they, they’re working overtime constantly. Other jobs do have boundaries. Usually, or you can put in place healthy boundaries. And I’m just reflecting on like my job as a teacher, which oftentimes can have no boundaries, but I had to really work to do that.

So you’ve gotta be with somebody who also understands what you’re doing is a service. It’s a job and you may not be getting a paycheck for it, but you’re saving your family money. Right. Yeah. So there is, there, there is like a financial aspect of being a stay at home mom and we need to be talking about that a lot more than we do.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. We need to be valuing it as that. Yeah. The full job that you were, you were just talking about because, um, I used to work for like a mommy brand and I worked in a mom, like mom group and so many of these women were just kind of like. Almost like put in a spot where it’s like their husband controlled every single thing.

And so it’s like they wanted that stay at home job, you know, mom role, but then they weren’t able to like have a certain amount of money or they were, and it’s like, mm-hmm. No, we like value because. By her doing this, you’re allowed more time at work or you’re allowed more time to do this. Um, and so yeah, that’s one of, one of the many issues in our society right now.

Payal Desai: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That’s

Christa Innis: a whole other topic. Okay. Let’s get into this week’s wedding story submission.

Payal Desai: Yeah.

Baby Bombshell To Full-Blown Riot

Christa Innis: Um, this might be a long one, but, so I’m just gonna start reading it and we’ll stop and we can react or feel free to stop me at any point. Here we go. Okay. My sister and I were always super close to our cousin and his sister.

When he got engaged to his first wife, they invited my sister, his sister, and me to be a part of their wedding. We happily accepted during the planning. They asked my boyfriend at the time to be a DJ for the wedding, and he accepted. We were getting everything set up for him. We had to travel out of state for this while also getting our dresses.

During the time his sister announced her pregnancy, his fiance did not like that, and then kicked her out of the wedding. Wait, what? And their cousin, so the The girl cousin?

Payal Desai: Yeah.

Christa Innis: Her pregnancy. And the fiance kicked her out of the wedding for that.

Payal Desai: Oh, wow. That’s awful.

Christa Innis: What, so I can’t imagine like being like, we’re engaged this year, so all next year, like till next year, you can’t announce anything important in your life.

Payal Desai: Yeah. Like don’t, don’t take the, take my thunder pretty much.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my. That’s crazy. Can’t imagine that. Okay. We traveled for the wedding and arrived a few days early so we could attend the rehearsal. During the rehearsal dinner, they handed out gifts to the bridal party. Only our cousin and our family spoke to us, the bride, to be barely said anything to my sister or meet the rehearsal or the following day.

Okay, interesting. Fast forward to the wedding and reception. The ceremony went well, but the reception was a complete disaster. Her parents went through the wedding gifts and cards to pay my boyfriend for his DJ services.

Payal Desai: Oh my

Christa Innis: God,

Payal Desai: that’s so

Christa Innis: kki. That’s so, this is why, and I’ve said this before, it’s like when you hire friends, they’re looking for like a little like.

Either like discount? Mm-hmm. Or they just not as, I don’t know, professional.

Payal Desai: I don’t think like friends and business ever mix, like I just No. No, they don’t. That’s a no for me.

Christa Innis: You need extra like contracts in place or to really make sure it’s someone that you want to work with, but most of the time it’s like, yeah, no,

Payal Desai: it just gets mucky.

It gets mucky, and then you’re trying to go through cards to pay. Dj,

Christa Innis: the number of stories that I’ve read about people hiring friends for photographers and vice versa. Mm-hmm. And then they ended up with no photos or they ended up with crappy photos ’cause it was someone just starting out. Like, no, we’re not doing that.

Guys. Like,

Payal Desai: well, and with a friendship or even like with family, like a falling out could occur. And so why would you with, if it’s a professional and it, you don’t have like a relation to that person. There’s a contract and you abide by that. But a lot of times if you’re working with a friend, like you may forego the contract ’cause it’s like, oh, we don’t have to make it all official.

Like you’ll just do it for me.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Wrong. Yeah. Oh yeah. There. It’s always that kind of person that you have to worry about that says, we don’t need a contract. It’s fine. You’re like, yes we do. I dunno. Something’s telling. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Um, it says, so to pay the boyfriend for his DJ services as they had never paid him before, also always get money down first.

That kind of thing. ’cause

Payal Desai: yeah.

Christa Innis: If they never, yeah, who knows if they ever paid him.

Payal Desai: Mm-hmm.

Christa Innis: Um, there was a lot of animosity between her family and ours the entire night. If my family was ever on the dance floor, which was most of the night, her family stayed away. What is the deal? Also, I feel like if something like that happened where they kicked out someone for announcing a pregnancy, I would already be like, this is weird.

Like, I don’t know. I don’t know. Especially like it’s his sister being kicked out of the wedding.

Payal Desai: Yeah, when

Christa Innis: you pick up your family and be like, why are you kicking my sister out for announcing a pregnancy?

Payal Desai: Mm-hmm. But it, do you think that there’s like an obligation to, uh, including like your husband’s female?

Uh, family members in the wedding party. ’cause I don’t think, there is no, like, if you don’t have a closeness with them, like you should not feel obligated. ’cause I feel like when you do, this is the kind of stuff that happens. Whereas if you’re just like, Hey, like your family, I’m marrying your family into your family, you’re marrying and into my family.

Let relationships happen like organically and over time people become close or they don’t, but like, just including them for optics is kind of like. A problem, I think. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Oh, for sure. You always see like pressure from like parents or something to have mm-hmm. Siblings all in the wedding together. Um, and I’ve even talked to a bride groom once and the groom was like, yeah, my parents are threatening to not pay for anything and not come to the wedding if I don’t have my brother as my best man.

I was like, well, do you want him as your best man? He said, Nope. I’m like, listen, the

Weddings, Traditions, and People-Pleasing

Payal Desai: more and more I like have lived life and like been in my marriage, like first of all, the wedding day now is very different than the marriage, right? Like the wedding day of the celebration. But I, I don’t know, for my own kids, for instance, like I don’t know if I will be so disappointed if they like choose not to do something huge.

It’s just like, not that like I want them to be happy in life. Like if that means that you elope, like I’m still celebrating you. I, I don’t know. Maybe I’ll change my mind, like call me naive. I don’t know. My boys are young, but. I think that there’s this almost like misconceived priority placed on, or I don’t know, the, it’s just, it seems like Ill place, like what do we really care about?

Christa Innis: Yes. I think, yeah, it’s all about like perception or how people are looking at us. It’s just, yes, and I feel like that’s where it gets kind of like lost and misconstrued is like we get so caught up in what other people think about us during the wedding or like. Parents of, you know, and it’s like, I still have

Payal Desai: time.

Or abiding by like these traditions that you don’t even really know the reasoning for. Um, and if, if you’re a people pleaser, like it’s over, it’s over for you because you’re not, even, the day isn’t, isn’t even about you.

Christa Innis: Oh, a

Payal Desai: hundred

Christa Innis: percent. And like people always like. I don’t know. People have their own like expectations when it comes to like how long you should be together before you get engaged or married.

And my husband and I were together a few years before. Okay, we’re going six years before we got engaged and all that. We lived together for a while and I know there’s many people online, they’re like, oh, there’s that so long. But like I think back to like my twenties when we were dating, I would not have had.

A backbone when it came to planning. And like we were, we just weren’t ready like we wanted to be, like Ready? Yeah. Our careers a little bit more and we wanted to like, you know, all that stuff, but whatever. Um, and so for me it was like, I think back, if I were like a young bride, I would’ve just been like.

Okay. Whatever you guys want. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I don’t know. Just people pleaser and like Yeah. When I got married I was like, this is kinda what we wanna do. Mm-hmm. My husband and I, we got on the same page. We were very like Sure of like, plus we also, like when you’re in our twenties, everyone’s your best friend.

Yes. We got married like early thirties, and so it was just kind of like, for us, we were like, all right, we were able to like cut down a little bit. Mm-hmm. By this point, these are friends that were gonna be like with us for like our life. Yeah. There’s benefits to both. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Not knocking anyone that gets married young.

I was just like, I feel like it’s just, it’s just different for it is because

Payal Desai: you’re, you’re ki as you grow, like you’re a different person. Like I’m a different person than I was when I got married at 20. Six. You know, like mm-hmm. So I was a people pleaser and I wanted to make sure that everyone, my parents, his parents, everyone was like, happy.

And like, even if somebody showed up in the same color as me, I was like, that’s fine. Okay. You wanna stand on,

Christa Innis: on stage with me too while I get married?

Payal Desai: Do you? Do you just wanna do it with like whatever you want? Yeah.

Christa Innis: Do you wanna walk down the aisle like with me or like. You do you like, this is

Payal Desai: really, I, I’m okay to share the day.

God.

Christa Innis: Oh yeah. So funny. I know. I feel like everyone needs, like if they’re a, like if you’re listening and you’re a people pleaser and you’re a bride, you’d need a bridesmaid or maid of honor that’s gonna like really like. So you like your boundaries or your husband or partner hold you to your boundaries and like, speak on behalf of you if you have a heart.

Yeah. Speaking up. Because you’ll be so much happier if you set your boundaries and, and yeah. Stick with it.

Payal Desai: Yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Gosh. Okay. Sorry. It’s, this was almost over. I know. We, like, we’re chatting a lot. I love it. Um, okay. As the night went on, my boyfriend played our our family song and everyone was having a great time.

Out of the corner of my eye, I saw someone shove my grandfather. Okay, what’s going on here? After that, all hell broke. Loose fights erupted all over the hall, tables broke,

Payal Desai: and there was blood everywhere. What? That’s awful. Wait. That escalated so fast. I’m like, what happened? Like, so I feel like there is like a piece of this story missing where there was some like conflict or tension that is not being shared because there’s no way that.

It went from like kicking somebody out of the wedding and then like everyone’s angry at each other. Two sides, like of the family are not interacting, engaging. Dancing together, celebrating, and then all of a sudden it’s like a, a bloodbath. What? Yes. No, I’m like

Christa Innis: picturing it like, um, like Romeo and Juliet right now, or like the two sides are like battling.

Payal Desai: Um, well, and it started off very innocent. Like, hey, like they, they like chose the wedding party, we’re all in it, we’re excited, and then boom, like.

Christa Innis: I don’t know what the heck. This is insane. It says the bride’s mom got into my face for no reason. Mind you, I was only 18 at the time. She went to shove me, but I was pulled away.

Why are people just shoving people here? Like, what is happening? Someone threw my mom to the floor and broke my boyfriend’s custom built speakers, like, oh, no. Someone threw your mom to the floor, pushed your grandfather, like this is the most violent story I’ve ever read. Yeah,

Payal Desai: that’s awful though. Like think about that couple, you know,

Christa Innis: they can never get their families together until they have like a full family therapy session or something.

Yeah,

Payal Desai: that’s terrible. And you imagine it probably causes a conflict between them two. Because one thing that I will say is like. When you get married to someone like you, you, you come from very different places, right? Like you’re raised by different parents, and so there’s always going to be like. At least a little bit of conflict, right?

But like you are more willing to forgive and understand your family’s behaviors and they are as well. Like it’s, this is just human nature. And so if there is a big family conflict, like it’s hard to maintain like what you have with your partner, but then also not be a pushover for your own family. Like it’s a, you just, yes.

It’s delicate balance, that’s

Christa Innis: all. Oh, for sure. ’cause if he was like, oh, like Uncle Bob, you don’t know his humor. He just, he just made a little joke, you know? He’s like, oh, he’s, he’s just so crass, like whatever, like, you know. Yeah. It’s like, oh, but Aunt Mary’s the nicest woman ever. Like, you don’t know her stuff.

Right. You know? And like

Payal Desai: you don’t really know these things intimately about your spouse’s family, so you’re not as forgiving. I don’t know. Oh my

Christa Innis: God. That’s crazy. Okay, wait, there’s a little bit more. Um, it says the sheriff’s and police depar or state police arrived. It turned out, um, the bride’s parents had told my cousin and his new wife to leave, uh, leave the reception before e everything escalated.

So they had no idea what was going on. Why would they tell them to leave their reception? That’s weird. They didn’t stay married very long after that. She had been cheating on him the whole time. Oh wait, maybe that’s part of

Payal Desai: it. Maybe someone found out, maybe, maybe somebody knew and that would explain it a little bit.

But if I feel like there’s definitely something,

Christa Innis: yeah, and it’s like, but if she had been cheating, why is her family acting like he did something wrong or his whole family? That is, that is insane. Oh my gosh. All right. Well that is a, that’s probably one of the craziest stories I’ve ever read. I, I’m always like shocked and not shocked at the same time because I’m like, yeah.

Stories I get are so crazy. But that, that’s a whole new level. Um, yeah. That, that makes, that’s one for the books. Um, yeah. Okay. I know we’re getting. Well, we’re kind of a little over time, so if you have a little few more minutes, we’ll finish up this last little Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thing and then we’ll, uh, be on our way.

Hot Confessions and Opinions

Christa Innis: Okay. So this last one is reading, um, follower confessions. Okay. So you have to do with. Um, weddings or events that people sent me. Okay. This person said, asking people, um, this sounds like more of a, an a pop, a popular opinion. Asking people to be in a wedding should be done privately and not at a family dinner.

Payal Desai: I don’t, Hmm. It’s not that serious. You’re not proposing Okay. You’re just asking them to be in the wedding. I, I do love like the, uh. Kind of like fun reveals like girls will like put boxes together and like then have their friends over and they’ll open them and it’s sort of like a. I don’t know. Cute moment.

Yeah. I like a, I like a theme so that I always see those on socials and I’m like, that’s cute. But I don’t know. I don’t know if that would offend me where it happens.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I don’t think I would care. I mean, yeah, if you’re like with like a group of people and there’s some people you’re not gonna ask that are there, maybe That’s right.

Um, but yeah, if it’s a family and you’re like, everyone’s here and I’m gonna ask my sister-in-law, like, why not? Yeah. Um. This confession says, I hated wedding planning, so I told my mom the colors and vibe and let her her have at it. Hey, more power to you.

Payal Desai: Totally a personal choice. Like I if as long as you don’t have regrets, and as long as, honestly, as long as your partner’s cool with it, like if you both are just like, do it and do it your way.

Not for me. I, I can’t like hand off all of that for a day like my wedding, but. Okay.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I guess, yeah, that’s like knowing yourself and being like, you know what I

Payal Desai: do okay. But I do wonder if that’s sort of like a precursor to how you will be about decisions for the rest of your life. Because I do think that like sometimes if you are somebody who involves your parents in every decision, then like all of a sudden like they’re going to like.

They’ll shop with you and like they’re going to e everything. They’re like so, like intimately involved in and like, some of those decisions, like make it with your spouse. Like you don’t have to include your parents in everything. Yes. Yeah. Sort of uh, like a pet peeve for me. Like I think that some people take it too far.

I totally agree. You gotta cut the tie a little bit at some point. Like there’s a little too much dependency.

Christa Innis: Uh, yeah, no, definitely. ’cause I know, I know people that have like. Had like disagreements as couples, and then they’ll call the mom. Yes. This is very

Payal Desai: unhealthy. Like that’s,

Christa Innis: we need to figure this out together.

Or the therapist not bringing in because that’s like, you know, like they’re gonna obviously have their bias towards like their son or daughter and Right. That’s gonna make things very

Payal Desai: weird. Yeah. So you really shouldn’t be privy to whatever, um, disagreement that they’re having because you will, you will have bias.

Like, come on. Of course. Like, uh, I’m all like, I made jokes about how like my sisters could tell me like the worst thing that they, they’ve done, and I’d be like, that’s okay. You had your reasons. Like, we have each other’s back. Like, sorry. Yeah. So no, totally.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh. Um, all right. This last one says, I feel guilt and sadness talking about our very small wedding because we couldn’t afford a big one.

Ooh. Aw. I mean, I, the, all right. Here’s the, the positive thing I will say about that is that you knew what you could afford. You didn’t go into it going bankrupt. ’cause think of how many people go and credit debt. Mm-hmm. Because they’re like, they want to show off this big wedding. But you can always do a big party later.

You could do a five year anniversary. 10 year anniversary. Yeah. Yeah. And, and just do something special or a family vacation and, um. And just remember like the, the moments you did have together, because I, I know it’s so easy Yeah. To prepare yourself and like look online, but that’s the marriage is what’s the important thing.

Payal Desai: I don’t know. I always go back to this, like, the wedding doesn’t make the marriage. You could have the most like, enormous, beautiful wedding. And if the, the marriage doesn’t, that doesn’t mean that the marriage is perfect. Mm-hmm. So like, yeah, I think that, I mean.

Christa Innis: Kim Kardashian had like a multi, what is it?

Million Dollar Wedding, and was married for like a few months to whatever that guy’s name was.

Payal Desai: Chris, well who was it? Chris something? Humphreys? No. Yeah. And then like even like with yeah, Humphreys and then even her like stuff with Kanye, like the engagement was really out of this world and the wedding was as well.

And

Christa Innis: exactly. That’s no of the wedding or

Payal Desai: the

Christa Innis: marriage.

Payal Desai: Yeah, and I know the grass is greener on the other side kind of thing. Like it’s easy for us to maybe say that when she’s mourning the fact that she didn’t have like a beautiful wedding, or I wouldn’t say beautiful, but like ornate, huge, expensive. But again, like down the line, you can honor the celebration in a different way.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I think there’s definitely, definitely opportunity there. Alright, well awesome. Well thank you so much for coming. I loved our conversation and how deep we got. I feel like I could talk to you forever about all this stuff. That’s why I feel like mm-hmm. Your content, like I said, I think I’ve been following you for years now, before I even was doing all this stuff.

So when I thought about people to have on, I was like, I gotta reach out because this was so fun.

Payal Desai: Yeah. And I never really. Made the connection, I guess. Like not in this way, right? Like when you first asked me to be on, I was like, oh, I like why me? Or like, what are we gonna talk about? But then the more I thought about it, I was like, the content that I do actually it is like, I think about the boys’ future and their relationships.

Not even just romantic, but relationships with everybody. Right? So it does connect. Yeah.  

Christa Innis: Absolutely. Yeah. It like weirdly all like, ‘ cause even when I started doing like wedding stuff and I was like, it’s such like a narrow mm-hmm. Thing or niche thing. But it really just relates to so many different relationships and communication boundaries.

Like I. There’s so much we can discuss on here. It’s, it’s crazy. Yeah.

Payal Desai: And it, like the issues too, or the challenges that people face are extremely cross-cultural. that’s something that I’ve learned from my content as well, is that it resonates amongst many different cultures and even age ranges.

So everybody sort of has some kind of tie to it and then has a way to, weigh in and, like, comment.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So for anyone listening, can you tell everyone where they can find your content and anything else interesting or exciting you’re working on?

Payal Desai: Yeah, absolutely. So Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.

 the handle is Payal for style and I’m working on some things that, will be offered off, um, socials. And so, some like courses that I’m gonna be putting together and like an audio course, things like that for anyone interested in raising their children without traditional gender norms.

Christa Innis: I love that.

Well, awesome. It was so nice officially meeting you, and I’m so glad you came on. I had so much fun. And, we’ll be in touch soon. Yeah, absolutely. All right, thanks.


My Book Is Here! Q&A, Chapter Sneak Peek, & Wild Storytime

This week, Christa Innis takes the mic solo to share the exciting launch of her debut novel, Here Comes the Drama: A Ferris and Sloan Story. Based on her most viral wedding story skits, this book dives into the emotional aftermath of a proposal gone wrong, messy in-law dynamics, and the kind of drama that’s almost too wild to be fiction.

You’ll hear how the characters evolved, why the story had to be written, and the real-life inspiration behind Ferris and Sloan’s world.

Join me on Patreon and get bonus content every month! 

Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

00:31 Review of the Week

01:01 Book Launch Announcement

04:12 Exclusive Book Segment Reading

07:44 Q&A Session

19:34 Wedding Submission Story

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Book Launch Reveal – Christa announces her new book, Here Comes the Drama: A Ferris and Sloan Story, inspired by her most viral wedding skits.
  • From Skit to Storyline – Discover how a single viral story about an unhinged proposal turned into a full-blown character-driven novel.
  • Behind the Scenes of Writing – Christa shares the emotional process of turning chaos into creativity and how deeply she connected with her characters.
  • The Evolution of Sloan – Meet Sloan, the bride at the center of it all—strong, unsure, flawed, and relatable.
  • Themes of Family & Betrayal – The novel tackles complex dynamics like mothers-in-law, family pressure, and losing trust in the people closest to you.
  • From Drama to Redemption – It’s not just about the drama—it’s about growth, resilience, and writing your own ending.
  • The Power of Storytelling – Christa reflects on why we’re so drawn to wedding chaos and how storytelling can be a cathartic outlet.
  • What’s Next for Ferris and Sloan – Teases of future chapters, evolving character arcs, and the potential for more stories in the Here Comes the Drama universe.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “Some stories don’t leave your head—so you write them into something that can live outside of it.”Christa Innis
  • “What if your big day became someone else’s engagement story? That was the spark that started it all.”Christa Innis
  • “We don’t just love drama—we want to understand the people behind it.”Christa Innis
  • “I didn’t want a perfect protagonist. I wanted Sloan to feel real—like she could be your best friend or your past self.”Christa Innis
  • “This is for the people who love wedding chaos but also crave closure.” – Christa Innis

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Your stories make Here Comes the Drama what it is! Share your unforgettable wedding tales, hilarious mishaps, or unbelievable moments with us. Whether it’s a wild confession or a story worth a skit, we can’t wait to hear it.

Submit your story today: Story Submission Form

Follow us on social media for updates and sneak peeks at upcoming episodes. Your stories inspire the drama, the laughs, and the lessons we love to share!

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Blog Transcript:

Note: We use AI transcription so there may be some inaccuracies

Christa Innis: Hey guys. Thanks for joining me on today’s episode of Here Comes The Drama. I wanted to start this episode by just thanking you guys for listening, for downloading, subscribing, and sharing with your friends. As of today where I’m recording, it’s April 15th and we have already over 50,000 downloads. I honestly can’t comprehend it.

To give you a little behind the scenes, my goal For the year was 25,000 downloads we just hit 50,000. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you guys so much. Your love and support just means so much to me. So I wanna start this episode by reading off a review of the week. This comes from MJ Groin oh five.

they say, I have been following Christa through YouTube and Facebook for a long time. I’m absolutely obsessed with the skits that she does, and. Absolutely am loving the podcast. So thank you so much for your kind review. If you guys have a review and are loving the podcast, feel free to leave a review yourself.

It means the world to me and helps more people see and hear about the podcast. Okay, jumping into today’s episode, it is a solo one and we’re gonna do things a little bit different today because today is a very special day. I have officially launched my brand new book. Here comes the drama of Ferris and Sloan story.

If you follow me on social media, you’ve probably heard all about it or you see me talking about it doing little teasers and reveals here and there. I. So today’s the official day where if you’re on my email list, you received part one for free sent to you. don’t worry if you’re not on my email list right now, you can sign up today and still get access to that first part.

and then we’ll be releasing part by part every single week. That will go right to your inbox. if you wanna do it that way. you could also pre-order the book as of today, so. It’ll be probably another month or so before the actual book comes out. But then you’ll be on that list and you’ll be one of the first ones to get it.

So to do things a little bit different today, I want to talk about Ferris and Sloan. This is what we’re gonna do. Talk a little bit more about the book. read a exclusive segment from the book. And that you’re not gonna hear anywhere else. And then answer some top questions that I’m seeing on social media that people have sent me about it.

And then of course, what would an episode be without me reading a story submission from one of you guys at the very end. So don’t worry that’s not going anywhere. first things first, just a little more about the book. so I took this. Series, this skit that I started on social media and I turned it into a full novel.

Now, originally it was going to be a novella, but I ended up adding so many details and different characters and development that it ends up being a full novel. So it’s a six part 30 chapter book, and so there’s a lot of fun in there. I always like to tell people that even if you watched the full skit front and back multiple times.

You’re still gonna get something unique and different out of this book. There are so many things that I can’t show as a one person actor. I don’t know what you would call myself skit maker. so this just allows me to develop the characters even more, share more, background behind the scenes and, just a lot that I, again, couldn’t share otherwise.

 So there’s different ways to get it. Like I talked about previously, if you’re already on my email list, you can get part one sent for free. And then, every week from Until you get ’em all, I guess. we’ll email the link to the following parts and, you’ll be able to purchase the following parts.

Then you can also pre-order today, and get the full book sent to you, whether it’s digital, so through your Kindle or however you look at digital books. and then you can also get a printed version, which I cannot wait to have that one in my book. Because of course I cannot wait to have that one in my possession and share with you guys because I’m obsessed with how the cover looks.

 my good friends over at Oak and Air designed that for me. And originally when we set it all up, she was like, okay with this package, you know, like you can do three design edits and we’ll give you three kind of visions to look at whatever. She sent me the first one and I was like, I don’t even wanna see any other, like edits. This looks absolutely amazing. So she just nailed it, like hit the ball of the park. I think I said that phrase wrong, but whatever, you know what I mean? okay. That’s from someone that doesn’t do sports. so that’s like the basics of what, the book is basically. Let me read a short segment from the book that you’ll not get anywhere else.

Sneak Peek from Here Comes The Drama Novel!

And as I’m reading this, this is before my proofreader and copy editor have read it, so things might still be changed in the actual one, but I’m just gonna go ahead and read the first page for you guys.

Kate couldn’t believe her ears. She picked up her glass of wine, threw back what was left, then stood up and stormed outta the living room with a loud huff. Her daughter Jenny watched her leave in pure confusion, then glanced at everyone else before quickly jumping off the couch to follow her. Mom, are you okay?

She yells. After her hurrying closer, she notices a drop of red wine has stained her mom’s white blouse. Ugh. I just know she’s doing this to get my son away from me. Kate charges into the next room. She looks unsteady, like she’s about to burst. What are you talking about, Jenny? Quickly, interjects Sloan isn’t taking anyone away from you.

Her eyes drift toward the window where the snow had just started At first it was light and quiet, barely noticeable. Now it’s beginning to fall in thick clumps, sticking to the glass, like something trying to get in. Kate pushes up her round brown glasses as a bead of sweat drips from her forehead.

Did you not just hear them? They come waltzing in here on Thanksgiving to tell us they’re not gonna be here on Christmas. Her voice trembles with a mix of hurt and disbelief for a moment, she’s questioning if she’s overreacting, but the thought vanishes as quickly as it came. Her stance is firm now.

There’s no going back. Jenny looks at her mother dumbfounded. She takes a deep breath to save herself from calling out her mother’s ridiculousness right here, right now. Yeah, they planned a vacation together. I think that’s perfectly acceptable. She runs a hand through her Long Dirty blonde hair, exhaling sharply.

You can’t tell them to not go on a vacation together. The snow is falling harder now. Piling on the window sill in soft, heavy heaps like the weight of everything left unsaid in the room. But on Christmas, there’s 364 other days of the year. Why do they have to pick Christmas? Kate’s voice is getting louder and louder each time she talks and there’s clear panic like she’s been robbed.

My guess is because they wanted to spend the holidays together. Jenny sarcastically replies, this isn’t some weird thing from a boyfriend to do with his girlfriend. Kate rolls her eyes before putting her head down in her hands and mumbles. You just watch Jenny. This is how it all starts. Then soon, they’re not just gonna show up for certain events.

She looks up and stares off as if she just had an epiphany with her own words. Mom, you should be happy that Ferris found someone he loves and wants to spend his time with. Jenny says resting her hand on her mom’s back. Now can we go back out there, put on a happy face, and enjoy the rest of Thanksgiving?

She raises both pointer fingers to the corners of her mouth, exaggerating a smile like she’s drawing one on. After a long pause, Kate pulls a tissue out of her pocket dabs her face. Although Jenny didn’t notice any tears at that moment. Fine. She stands up tall, touching her short brown hair and forces a painful, wide smile.

How’s this? Okay, so that’s a little segment. Like I said, that has not been. Edited yet that has not been sent to the copy editor or the proofreader. So when you get yours today, or if you, join the email list today and you get it, you’re gonna notice some tweaks. cause as I was reading that, I noticed I described her hair differently.

So we changed some different things around. but yeah, I hope that got you guys like a little excited for it. I still can’t believe it’s gonna be a book. Before I get to today’s like main story, I just wanna answer a couple of, top questions that you guys have sent me, about the story and then we’ll get into it.

Book Q&A Session

First things first, especially as I was reading that, because so many people have asked, is this going to be an audio book? And. By now, you guys might have seen the announcement, but in case you didn’t, yes, this will be an audio book. I’m gonna be slowly sharing some different dates and timelines as I, as I have them.

But, the first thing to say is I am not the voice of the actor in the audio book, and I know so many of you guys had requested that, but as you guys can see or hear. I’m not a voice actor and that honestly puts a lot of stress on me to be able to read a full script and everything. it’s just a lot.

And so the company that I’m working with, chanter Media is just so great. They are allowing me to be a part of the full process. listen to the actors, pick one that I think really emulates the character as well, and just be a part of everything. So they’re not taking it from me. I’m right there with them, and making it.

What it should be. Right. so yes, I’m very excited for that. Again, I’m gonna share more dates for that when I have it available. Okay. Into the q and a. What inspired you to create Ferris and Sloan? Okay, so. As you guys know, if you’ve been followingmy page, I just share, wedding stories, skits, and drama.

And through doing that, you know, people leave questions, they leave comments, they submit their stories. So it just kind of gets my brain going. I’ve always been a writer at heart. I always like creating. I would say right now about half and half are stories I just come up with, and half are stories that are submitted to me.

Typically the mini skits are ones that people send to me because I only have so much information. And then even those though, I change like a bunch because I’m like, I never want someone to see it and like know it’s like about them. Of course, when it came time for Ferris and Sloan, I still remember the day, which is kind of crazy to think about.

I was putting my daughter down for bed at night and just the line popped into my head about someone taking her son away. And I visualize myself walking in, you know, I film in my bathroom, so walking in the bathroom and just like being mad about something. cause as someone that works in social media, I also like think of like grabbing someone’s attention.

Like what’s gonna really pull someone in, right? so you want that antagonist or that person to come in right away. So I thought of that line right away. I did not know at that part that it was going to be what it is today. I literally thought it would be just a mini skit. I had some ideas. I didn’t have the character names.

I have to go back, but I don’t even think I had any of the character names picked out. Maybe a few of them. Yeah, I think I had a few picked out. but yeah,thought it was just gonna be like a mini skit and then it was really well received. People wanted more and I just kind of ran with it. going.

Into that. People have also asked like, where did the names come from? How did you come up with these? So obviously Ferris and Sloan are popular characters in another story called Ferris Bueller’s Day Off. I, however, wanna be very clear that when I started creating more skits, I would get very confused, and a lot of times I would call characters the wrong names because I would just randomly think of names, right?

And so like. Since I’m just doing them myself, I would be like, Hey Sally. And then they’d be like in the comments, he’d be like, I thought her name was Susan. And I was like, oh shoot. I totally messed it up. So to help me when I was creating these skits, I started just thinking of a random movie, random TV show, so I could remember like, okay, the mom is so and so, the dad is so and so, the sister so and so.

It just helped me when I was like putting skit together. So that day, just Ferris Bueller’s day off just popped into my head. Now as the story has developed, I’ve obviously gotten rid of those like last names. And as, as it became a book, I completely changed it because I didn’t want any confusion.

Obviously it’s a completely different storyline. and so I wanted to make these characters unique. Sloan is spelled differently. All the supporting cast members, their names have changed completely. Their last names changed. Details have changed, to make it really their own story because people keep comparing it and I’m like, no, no, no, this is different.

it’s completely different location everything. So I. That’s where it came from. That was just the lucky thing that popped in my head. I grew up watching it all the time, so like I’m familiar with it. but yeah, it’s a different story. okay. The next question is, does this story cover all three seasons of Ferris and Sloan?

No. So book one, here comes the drama, a Ferris and Sloan story only covers, season one. So, I don’t wanna spoil it if you haven’t watched all the skits. So someone asking about something very specific that happened in season two, and asked if I would cover it and I said, no, it’s only gonna cover anything in season one.

That all being said, it’s going to be an extension of that because, like I mentioned earlier, there’s only so much I can act out by myself, so there’s gonna be a lot more detail, a lot more dialogue. some things that went one way in the book are gonna go a different way.

 or one way in the skit are gonna go a different way in the book just to kinda keep you on your toes. Some things are gonna be a little bit different, some things are gonna be a little toned down, some are gonna be a little extra. cause I wanted to keep it very, surprising still because it’s very unique in the fact that.

People have seen the story, right. So a lot of times when you’re reading a book, it’s your first time. So I still want it to feel like the first time for people, but also a little familiar because it’s like comforting to have familiar people. Right. Okay. Number three, was Kate always meant to be that toxic or did her character evolve as you wrote more?

 yeah, so obviously she started off very toxic in the beginning. I. knew she was gonna be kind of like that toxic mother-in-law that a lot of these stories share, but I did have some kind of arc of where she’s like resolved in the skit. but people were like, I don’t know, I don’t really buy, I don’t believe it.

And so then I ended up adding like more like drama to her. So she did evolve and she evolved in different ways. I can’t give, I don’t wanna give too much away with the book. She evolves. She evolves. She was not necessarily meant to be that toxic. but I just kept kind of adding some stuff on and giving more details to it in different ways.

Okay. Number four. What’s something we would be surprised to learn in the book? Ooh. Okay. I don’t wanna give away what it is, but we go really in, depth to one of the characters. background. So something that we didn’t know about this person, and I never talked about it in the skit. It was something through my own writing of the story that I kind of discovered

 about this person. yeah. And so we kind of revealed that about her, and I think it adds a little bit to the story and a little bit more to the dynamic of this person’s relationship. That’s all I’ll say. Okay. five. Did you have the ending planned from the beginning? No. so like I said, it’s a little bit backwards where I did the skip first and I’m writing the book right.

So, Answering about the skit? No, I kind of just figured it out as I went I didn’t even know it was gonna be 16 parts, and then it kind of just started tying itself up as a bow and I was like, okay, I think this is how I want it to end. When it came time for writing the book, I took similar, ending, but then kind of rewrote it in a new way.

so I did not, see that happening. okay. Number six, what part made you laugh the most while writing or filming? Ooh, gosh. And this won’t spoil anything if you’ve seen the skit, but, actually it’s a little bit different and it’s different in the book, but I would just say just. Hate just being so chaotic.

Like, I would write things and be like, this is so ridiculous. But it made me laugh, picturing it in my head, like her, at the, bridal shower. I don’t wanna get into specifics of what I wrote in the book, but I’m just cracking up about like. How she arrives and how it kind of happens because in the skit, I can’t show like costume, I can’t show how she styled herself, but I got into specifics of like what she’s wearing, how she presented herself, and the things she said that was like I ideal Kate right there.

 okay. Number seven, did any real life stories from fans inspire scenes from the book? So yes and no. There wasn’t like one story that I was like, oh, I’m gonna take this and make it into a book. No, but as you watch the skit, as you read the book, you’re like, this is familiar. Or like, I’ve heard something similar to it.

We’re always inspired by things we see. but like I said, it wasn’t like. I took a story and just did it. like for example, I’ve talked about this before, but like the whole cal thing when They say they’re not gonna come as their best man because his daughter’s or his girlfriend’s daughter’s not invited.

There’s been very similar stories where I’ve read where like, the best man drops out because his, child’s not invited. but of course I mixed it up a little bit because, it’s his girlfriend and she’s kind of crazy. And, all this stuff that, you know, just kind of.

Made up. So there’s some, of course there’s inspiration. I think it’s funny when people say like, oh no, it’s a hundred percent original. I think we’re inspired by things every day. but this was one story where I remember those lines. I remember like creating it, know, myself. number eight, will there be more Ferris and Sloan stories?

 this is kind of a TBD, but I would definitely like to hope so. I would like to hope so. I would like to think so. as you guys saw, maybe saw on my social media, I am now paired with a literary agent. I work with Rose, cliff literary, and we’ve got some things coming. and I also have some ideas down the line.

I don’t think I can say too much yet, but think miniseries, as of books, and then Other ways. There’s so much we can expand on with their story and I would love to do even more. So there isn’t anything for sure right now, but I’m thinking, my wheels are always turning. okay, I’ve got two more guys.

What is something you want readers to take away from this story? I think this is, Key in all of my skits and all the things I share is that boundaries are important boundaries do not make you a bad person. And it’s okay to say no okay to learn from things and say, you know what?

Don’t wanna be talked to that way anymore. I wanna say no to this person. I don’t like the way I feel around this person. And it’s okay. It does not make you rude when we are raised as people pleasers, or somehow something influences us to be a people pleaser, we are constantly feeling guilty for saying no.

I always count myself over, What’s it called? Recovering people pleaser, because I’m doing so much better than I was like in my early twenties. I was such a people pleaser, like bend over backwards for everyone no matter what. And I’ve really found to love myself more through saying no. Which sounds so funny to say out loud.

’cause I’m just like, wait, you say no to more people and you feel you love yourself. Because I think if we say yes to everybody, we’re saying no to ourselves all the time. Right. It’s that famous quote. So just boundaries are important. I think we also need to listen to other people’s boundaries, right?

It’s not just about, you know, setting our own boundaries, but respecting others. so I think we can all learn from all the characters in different ways. like we see Jenny’s such a people pleaser, you know, she wants to make everyone, She’s kinda a comedic relief, right? But she’s also like trying to make everyone get along.

 she’s pulled into her mom’s drama. She’s pulled into, backing Sloan up, right? and so I think it’s really important to just see ourselves in all the characters and kind of learn from all of them. Number 10 is this fan fiction. I kind of already hit. Talked about this when I talked about the names and stuff, someone said, is this fan fiction?

Because it looks like it’s like Ferris Buer. No, it’s a completely different story. the only similarities you will see is that their names are Ferris and Sloan. They’re completely different people storylines. and if this ever gets made into, a film or a TV show or something, you’ll be able to see that they’re gonna be different people.

Their setup is different, their relationships are different. it’s a complete different story. So no, it’s not fan fiction. Okay, guys, if you guys have any other questions when it comes to this story, you can submit them on my, platform here. You can submit it on social media.

Comment on a video, email me. and I’m gonna keep, you know, doing more lives and, videos talking about the book because I’m just, I’m very excited for it. as you guys know or maybe have seen, writing a book has been something that I’ve always dreamed about and I’ve always put it as like a goal for myself and I just.

Year after year, after year, I’d be like, um, write a book. Write a book. And so it’s just really been amazing to share this with you guys and be able to, do this. So I’m more than happy to share more. All right guys. and now like I said, what would this episode be if I didn’t read a wedding submission story?

So here we go. We’re gonna end with this little story here. It says, where do I even start? I asked my fiance’s cousin Alyssa names have been changed to be a bridesmaid in our wedding. She’s dating his best friend, so we actually set them up and she was part of our engagement.

Tinder Dates, Rooming Disasters, and Secret Drama

We also have been close friends for over five years. I thought having her stand by our sides would be a beautiful way to bridge both families, but some things happened along the way. Oh, no. At the bachelorette party, she argued with one of my other guests spent an entire evening fighting with her sister.

Oh, no. After sending out our save the dates eight months prior and formal invitations three months before, both of which clearly stated no children, she sided with a family member who claimed they quote unquote, already bought tickets for themselves and their kids. Oh my gosh. Okay. So one of my first viral skits ever on social media was about something like this.

And people were so split in the comments. I would say majority agreed with the bride. But that’s crazy. ’cause this was like a very similar scenario. when we eventually agreed to allow the kids to come. Okay. So she allowed them, it turned out they didn’t actually have tickets. Oh. No. So they lied.

Mm-hmm. That’s so funny. ’cause in that skit, I said like, we don’t know if she’s actually telling the truth or she just wants people to come in. ’cause I’ve, seen it happen before at many weddings where they just say that as a way to convince the bride. I actually just read one not long ago where that happened.

 Alyssa then told me the whole thing was my fault because I didn’t personally call every family member with kids to explain our child free policy. No, you don’t need to call everybody that It’s a child free policy if it’s on the invitation and the save the date or the website. It’s implied as well as when you do, your invitations or your address on the invitation, all it needs to say is the exact names.

So if you’re not inviting and family, you’re not putting and family, if everyone in the family is invited, put all their names or say, and family. If you’re just inviting the couple, just put the couple’s names or Mr. And Mrs. Last name, Mr. And Mr. Last name. You know, whatever that looks like. Just don’t put and family right.

So you don’t need to call every family member and say that. She also implied that I was intentionally excluding her favorite cousin, which made it feel very personal. Okay, number three, while discussing Airbnb rooming options, I floated some ideas, but nothing was set in stone. She then ran to one of the groomsmen and told them he’d be stuck rooming with the loudest snore.

This caused a fight between us and him, even though no arrangements had been finalized. So she’s just stirring the pot. Like she just wants to start some drama it sounds like, but also like why would then it start a fight if like he didn’t actually hear it from you? When we confronted her, she snapped.

I’m your bridesmaid. It’s my responsibility to share information. No, it’s not. Then she proceeded to share all of our private planning details with our entire friend group. Gosh, I’m wondering if there was any red flags about this girl before inviting her to be a bridesmaid. My guess is no, because why would you bri invite somebody to be a bridesmaid that’s acting that way?

Number four. Every time I asked for help, and I’m not just saying number four myself, she like listed it all out. I think because there’s just so many random things that happened. every time I asked for help, she wouldn’t answer her phone The night before the wedding, instead of being helpful, she was busy schmoozing and playing host.

Despite having had no hand in any of the planning, I ended up missing most of my rehearsal dinner because I was still behind on decorating. Okay. This is where I’m gonna play devil’s advocate. It’s not your bridesmaid’s fault that decorating took a little too long and you missed your rehearsal dinner.

If you’re rehearsal like you are the bride, I would say they can’t start the rehearsal dinner until you’re there, or we’re cutting decorating early. There’s no way I would be missing my rehearsal dinner. And it’s not your bridesmaid’s fault. Sorry. I know. I’m sorry. I’m gonna play devil’s advocate. Okay.

A Wedding Week Tantrum: The Tinder Date Standoff

Last little section here. Meanwhile, my father-in-law and brother-in-law caused a major fight. Two days before the wedding, the brother-in-law wanted to bring a Tinder date to the wedding because he didn’t wanna be alone. That is so funny. Oh my gosh. So I did that viral skit about someone when you bring a Tinder date, and that was when I wrote myself, I didn’t even see this.

And it was just about that and how bad it was. It was the girl bringing a Tinder date though. When my fiance told him no, he freaked out yelling, how could you do this to me? People were commenting on that video and they were like, there’s no way someone would wanna bring a Tinder date. Apparently they do.

How could you do this to me? Then he ran to title to their dad, who also blew up, telling my fiance, your brother will remember this for the rest of his life. It’s not that serious. You wanna bring a Tinder date so someone, presumably you just met to your brother’s wedding, like you have all your family there.

Just, oh my gosh, this about our wedding. Mind you the same brother. Okay, here we go. More details. Had recently broken up with his girlfriend and when I asked him weeks before if she’d still be coming, he said no, he’d be coming alone. There we go. So he is trying to, make them feel bad, but he’s the one that said, I’m becoming alone.

He wants like a revenge girlfriend. This is so funny because it’s almost the exact opposite of what I did for the skit. Like I had a bridesmaid bring a Tinder date. She had just broken up with her boyfriend, so she wanted like a revenge date. okay. She ends with, then suddenly during the wedding week, he threw a tantrum about it.

That sounds like his problem. Oh my gosh. I read these stories and I feel so lucky I do not have this drama at my wedding. I have to like reiterate that guys, because so many people still comment like. Oh my gosh. Did you start these skits because of drama with your family or your husband’s family? And I was like, no, our families were drama free.

I get along with my in-laws very well. I get along with my parents very well. There was no drama. It was just how it was meant to be. I don’t mean that to be like, oh, yay, but like, we just knew what we wanted. I can’t believe how people act sometimes. I think it’s also like. My husband and I, Zach, like we have been a part of so many people’s weddings over the years.

Like we are one of the later ones to get married, and we’ve been together a long time, and so it’s like we had been a part of so many weddings and been there for so many people that I think it was just like. Everyone just like knew it was like our time. I don’t know, but I cannot believe hearing that.

All right guys, well that is the story for this week. thanks for hanging out with me again. If you have not subscribed to my newsletter list to get part one free for a Ferris and Sloan, please do that now. You’ll get it in your inbox right away. And then of course, pre-order my brand new book. Here comes the drama of Ferris and Stone Story.

Thank you for all of the love and support and I cannot wait to hear what you guys think. As soon as you guys get the book and read it, I would love to hear what you guys think. Make sure to tag me, share it on social media. send me an email, whatever that looks like. I am just so, so eager and excited.

Thanks guys, and I’ll see ya next time. Bye.


Family Feuds, Bridal Boundaries & Wedding FAQs: With Cora Lakey

Would you risk a lifelong friendship over a wedding rule? Cora Lakey did—and it went viral. In this episode, Christa chats with Cora about the controversial wedding FAQ that lit up the internet, the truth behind her no plus-one policy, and why people still struggle with brides having boundaries.

They also dive into how social media shapes public opinion, how post-COVID relationships shifted weddings, and why guests sometimes act like the event is about them.

If you’ve ever been labeled a “bridezilla” for setting standards, this conversation is the validation you’ve been waiting for.

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

01:05 Cora’s Social Media Journey

01:35 The Wedding FAQ Controversy

06:01 Wedding Guest Etiquette and Boundaries

17:31 Wedding Drama Debates

30:04 Story Submission: Overbearing In-Laws

33:36 Navigating Boundaries with In-Laws

35:38 The Wedding Guest List Dilemma

37:20 Financial Control and Wedding Decisions

43:01 Handling Online Criticism

49:44 Mother-in-Law’s Wedding Day Antics

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • The Viral Wedding FAQ – Cora explains the behind-the-scenes of her infamous guest FAQ and why it wasn’t as outrageous as it seemed.
  • When Plus-Ones Become Dealbreakers – Hear how Cora’s decision to limit plus-ones led to the end of a seven-year friendship.
  • Losing Friends, Gaining Clarity – A deep dive into how post-COVID life and weddings revealed who really mattered.
  • Wedding Industry Pressure – Christa and Cora reflect on the unrealistic standards brides face and how it feeds the bridezilla narrative.
  • Boundaries Aren’t Offensive – The duo discuss why people still bristle at women setting boundaries—especially during weddings.
  • Guest Behavior: The Entitlement Era – Cora shares real stories of guests behaving badly and the hard truths brides have to deal with.
  • Misunderstood on the Internet – What happens when a TikTok explodes on the wrong side of the internet? Cora shares how she handled it.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “People don’t realize they can just scroll if they don’t like it.”Christa Innis
  • “Why is it always the bride who’s labeled difficult?”Christa Innis
  • “If you’re offended, maybe you need to look in the mirror.” Christa Innis
  • “Boundaries aren’t mean—they’re necessary.”Christa Innis
  • “Other people’s opinions of you? None of your business.”Christa Innis
  • “People hate women who say no.” Cora Lakey
  • “We weren’t inviting strangers—we were inviting people who mattered.”Cora Lakey
  • “I’ve used these wedding rules hundreds of times in events. They were never controversial—until TikTok.” Cora Lakey
  • “Humans are the only unpredictable element in planning.”Cora Lakey
  • “No one cares about your dog, no one cares about your baby—it’s your wedding.”Cora Lakey

About Cora

Cora Lakey is a TikToker whose content career kicked off with a story involving her own wedding drama! Now with over 100k followers, she covers lifestyle, commentary on all things pop culture – and of course wedding hot takes!

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Christa Innis: Hi Cora. Thank you so much for coming on. Hi Christa. Thanks for having me. I am so excited to talk to you today. We were just saying before recording, I was like, I feel like I know you through seeing all your content and it’s one of those like funny, like weird things with social media. ’cause when you see someone enough, you’re like, oh, just catching up with an old friend, but we’ve never met.

So how are you?

Cora Lakey: Thanks for coming on. I’m good. I know that’s the beauty of the internet. You make so many best friends all over the world. I love it.

Christa Innis: Yeah. So for anyone that doesn’t know you or doesn’t follow you, can you just tell us a little bit about you and, you, we’ll kind of get into it.

Cora Lakey: So I’m mainly a TikTok creator.

I post basically just what I’m going through in my life and I feel like I got a lot of momentum through my wedding, FAQ, which was very controversial apparently. and I kind of just talk about whatever I’m experiencing in that moment. So ironically, right now I’m going through a divorce, so I’ve been talking about that a lot.

But I’ll continue to talk about my journey through life online.

Christa Innis: yeah. I remember, you were featured in a story about your own wedding, FAQ, and people were like going crazy over it. So let’s talk about that. in this FAQ? What did people have the like, hardest time understanding about it?

The Wedding FAQ That Sparked a Storm

Cora Lakey: I feel like the entire thing was taken, blown out of proportion.

So a little bit about my background. I worked in the events industry forever. I started doing weddings at, you know, the luxury level in Los Angeles, then I moved to doing corporate events at tech companies. So that’s actually how I ended up in the Bay Area. So I thought a lot of these things were just common sense and that people were used to seeing them because in my professional experience, I’ve word for word used these hundreds of times.

So I had no reason to think the internet would be disturbed by it at all. oh man. I think one of them was I implemented, like color suggestions. So it wasn’t necessarily like you have to wear these specific colors, but just gave suggestions of different colors to where I think people were really confused by that.

But now it seems pretty commonplace. I’m trying to think. I haven’t looked at it in so long. I said if people were late that they would be guided to like a waiting area. But I think it came off as very direct. So people thought they would be turned away if they were late to the ceremony. I said there was an unplugged ceremony.

People were upset that they couldn’t be on their phones, like people were just, yeah. just so many things. And one of the parts that I think maybe was more controversial, as I said, we were doing no plus ones, And I think that got a little bit blown outta proportion. I can provide context later on, but I think people thought it was such a hot take not to offer a hot a plus one to a wedding.

and I ended up mentioning that I lost a seven year friendship because of it. And I think that was the thing that people held onto was they were like, there’s like a juicy story here. We wanna hear what’s going on. so I think it just all compounded where, people were kind of picking each one apart until I was like, okay, I need to address this because this is,

Christa Innis: it’s crazy.

Like I was just talking to someone how like whenever a bride has like guidelines or rules or wanna help something, they’re automatically considered a bridezilla. But it’s like, if there were no rules or like people just went willy-nilly, like, then it would be complete opposite. Like, oh, she’s so disorganized, or this was not a good plan, or this wasn’t a good wedding.

And so it’s like you can never win in those situations. cause I feel like when I’m going to a wedding. It’s kind of nice to have some guidelines, but I’m also like a type A like planner person, so I like being like told kind of like, okay, this is what to expect. Here’s kind of like our theme. Or like some colors you might see because I’ve shown up wearing a bridesmaid dress color not knowing, and I was like, oh.

Which I guess in hindsight there’s no way for me to know. But there’s different things like that where it’s like, it’s kind of nice to see some guidelines. I’m still hung up on it. People were mad about unplugged ceremony. I feel like that’s so common and like I get mad about that, that they pay for photographers and they want professional photographers.

I know. Yeah, I

Cora Lakey: think people took my wedding FAQ very personally, and I think it was, 2023. So I think it was at the time where people were starting to analyze the FYP, the for you page and really analyzing that. People truly think their for you page is talking directly to them. And I feel like that’s a form of internet culture where people are chronically online and they don’t understand that we can’t control where the algorithm puts our videos.

And so people were taking it so personally I think a year later it really course corrected and I actually get a lot of support on that video now. Yeah. But it’s just such an interesting time and I think it just all, it was a perfect storm at once. Yeah. Where I was just like,

Christa Innis: this is

Cora Lakey: out of control.

Christa Innis: I know.

It’s funny because I always say that about like the skits I do like, so there’s stories that are sent to me about things that happen around weddings. Right. And a lot of them do have to do with mother-in-laws. I have a great mother-in-law, so I can’t relate to them, but I do hear stories and I do see them however.

When I share a story with a mother-in-law, someone will always comment like, oh my gosh, like you should share stories about mother of the bride, or you should share stories about this. And I’m like, if you’re getting offended, you might need to look in the mirror because like I don’t see a bride Bridezilla story and be like, oh my gosh, that’s terrible.

I’m like, well, I know I wasn’t like that, so I’m not gonna, it’s fine. There’s stories like that, it happens. Like people don’t realize they can just like scroll if they want to or not engage.

Why Women Aren’t Allowed to Set Boundaries at Weddings

Cora Lakey: Exactly. And I think it speaks to a larger issue with wedding guest culture and how sometimes wedding guests can be extremely entitled.

Like I had so many experiences with people not confirming until immediately before or not giving us an answer or acting like it was super inconvenient to attend and. I feel like I see that a lot online as well of people making a point to not give a gift because they’re already attending the wedding.

So I think it’s really important for, yeah, people to analyze their own behavior and be like, no one’s forcing you to go to a wedding. You can say no, and if you say no, like there’s no expectations, no is a full sentence. But at the same time, you’re discounting how incredibly expensive weddings are, how much stress and pressure they are, especially for the bride.

And I think people hate women with boundaries and they hate women that say no and say, I’m not okay with this. And I think we can recognize that brides are the ones planning the wedding 99% of the time. So all that vitriol goes to the bride and it’s kind of messed up. Right. Why are you doing this?

Christa Innis: They’re seen as the controlling or the difficult one because it’s their vision. you hear it time and time again. It’s like people never make comments about the groom. It’s always the bride. I shared a story yesterday that’s been going viral about, this couple had a no, a child free wedding and someone brought a baby and the baby was crying during the whole vow ceremony.

Yeah. And so like no one removed like the baby. No one, like, I don’t know what the details were, why they showed up with a baby when it said child free, but the title of the article was so degrading to the bride. It said Angry Bride, like, something about is mad that crying baby is there during vows or something.

I totally butchered that. But it was all about the bride being angry and it’s like. They paid lots of money. They apparently specified no children. And you don’t remove the baby while the vows are going off. Like so they’re gonna have crying baby during their video. Yeah. And there’s such an

Cora Lakey: easy solution for that.

Just go to the reception. Okay, you paid all this money to attend the wedding, don’t bring your baby to a ceremony. Like things are common sense. And I think that’s why I was so firm with my FAQ because in a professional environment I’ve had to recognize that things just aren’t common sense and people will push and poke and prod you.

So you have to be extremely direct, simple and to the point. So you can be like, Hey, this is outlined here, this is where this was communicated. And if you add too much language and you try to, you know, make it as polite as possible, people just don’t get it. Mm-hmm. And they start to poke and prod at whatever your rules are that you’re trying to reinforce.

So I feel like that’s another way, like my wedding FAQ was so jarring for people maybe was because it was so direct and I think they aren’t used to women saying no and saying, I’m not putting up with this and maybe we need to talk about that.

Christa Innis: Yeah, no, I totally agree. Because we’re just taught as women, I think, just to be like, oh sure, okay.

You know, people pleasers like I always like to say I’m a recovering people pleaser and like even now when I’m firm, I’m later like, was I too firm? Was I harsh? Are they gonna think badly of me? And it’s like this thing that, like this narrative that we put in our heads of like, if I stand firm for something, they’re gonna think I’m a bitch or something.

And so we just constantly question our decisions and like how we talk to people because of that.

Cora Lakey: Exactly. What was so interesting too about that whole situation is my husband at the time wanted a lot of these rules and actually wanted to have a wedding in the first place. So because I worked in the events industry, I wanted to elope.

I know how expensive weddings are. I was like, I do not wanna deal with the production, like how stressful it is. Like I’m gonna be in the professional mindset this whole time and I just wanna like fully relax. And he was the one that really wanted a wedding. Mm-hmm. And I was like, alright, like I’ll use my expertise.

I’ll make it happen. Excuse me. Sorry, my light died. and so that’s where I was like, it wasn’t even a consideration for people that my husband was the one who might have come up with a lot of these rules because we’re just so used to women being like, all right, I’m taking the front seat here.

So it was really interesting.

Christa Innis: But yeah, no, that’s so true about you say like they automatically just assume that it’s the woman when like, it was same like for our wedding. Like I included my husband on every decision. I wasn’t like, this is what we’re doing. This is my day, not yours. Like, it was like, it’s our day. Let’s talk through this together.

And we were very on the same page about like the size of wedding we wanted, like, did we want kids or no kids, did we want plus ones? that kind of thing. And we were very, like, I would say most everyone we invited had a sign, significant other that we knew. So that’s why we had obviously like couples that were like married, but like I didn’t invite like my cousins.

Boyfriend of six months, like, you know, or two months ’cause that I’ve never met. Yeah. So like my pictures. Yeah. So that’s, yeah. So the plus one thing, do you wanna share on your plus one? Yeah.

The Plus One Controversy

Cora Lakey: Okay. this is why I think it got really misinterpreted. So for me it was really important to have just an intimate wedding where we knew every single person, the theme was friend and family barbecue.

Like I just wanted to be really casual, relaxed atmosphere. And I knew that wasn’t gonna be possible with strangers at our wedding. if you followed me online, you probably see I’m like really transparent about the things I’ve been through in life. And I didn’t talk about this in the FAQ because obviously I didn’t know it would blow up, but my dad passed away pretty suddenly and tragically and I knew I would be talking about that a lot throughout the wedding just through, any speeches I did because.

It was such a life altering moment and I really wanted my dad at my wedding. and he wasn’t gonna be there. So it was like a big gap that I was feeling. So I was already feeling really vulnerable throughout the day. And so that was a very firm decision I made from the beginning. No strangers there.

That being said, if we met them even one time, they were invited. So I’ll give you an example. A friend’s boyfriend, I had never met him. I was like, I’m not comfortable having the boyfriend I’ve never met at my wedding. I’m sorry if that makes you uncomfortable. she expressed that that made her uncomfortable.

So I was like, listen, let’s get coffee with him. Like we can hang out. We just don’t want strangers there. Met him, he was great. He was invited to the wedding. Mm-hmm. So if the people, if it was important to them, we wanted it to be intimate to the point that if there were any communication things that maybe didn’t make sense for them or didn’t make sense for us, we wanted to be able to have an open dialogue.

Post-Pandemic Wedding Drama

So that was a great example of something didn’t work for her, she expressed it to us, we made it work. Mm-hmm. Whereas the other friend in the seven year friendship that I lost, like there was no interest in our lives, the wedding. we saw that from the beginning, you know? And I think another thing that was really interesting is this was post covid time.

So a lot of people were losing friendships because covid, like a lot of our relationships changed, a lot of friendships dwindled. And this was an example of a friendship that during Covid, like we had completely stopped talking, so we hadn’t talked in almost two years. Mm-hmm. And I kind of extended an invite as.

You know, an olive branch to be like, Hey, I love you. I loved you at one point, and I would love you to be there. You were there for so much of our early dating stages, but we hadn’t talked in almost two years. And by that point, they had a boyfriend. I never met the boyfriend. I didn’t feel comfortable having this stranger hearing all about losing my dad and how sad I was that he wasn’t there.

So. I didn’t invite the boyfriend and instead of communicating that to me, she just didn’t go to the wedding. So it was very obvious that, and here’s the thing, like she never even communicated to me that was what bothered her. Mm-hmm. It was very obvious from my point of view, because I could see like a behavior shift of like hot to cold when she got the invite.

Mm-hmm. But she had also been telling our other friends that she was upset. I didn’t invite her boyfriend, so I had to hear through other people. And it got to the point that I was like, okay, our friendship is in a place where you don’t even feel comfortable enough to tell me that this bothers you. Like you probably shouldn’t be at our wedding.

You know? Like, you don’t wanna be there. It would be uncomfortable for me to have you there. We barely know each other anymore. So that was what kind of got lost on the internet. Mm-hmm. But I think it’s so easy for people to judge, they see. Yep. Slide on the internet for five seconds and they call you a bitch.

They call you a bridezilla. Yes. And there was so much lost in that that made the decision make sense for us as a couple.

Christa Innis: Yeah. That’s the thing with like social media, people just see something quickly and then they just judge based on that. but yeah, I mean like hearing it, hearing you tell it, I’m like, that makes total reasonable sense to me.

Like, cause that’s the thing, it’s like I read it first as like she was like a bridesmaid, but even then it’s like if you just wanted, like if you just communicated and just met one time, like, especially if the other friend did that, that shows like she was already kind of like dwindling away and didn’t really care enough.

So it sounds like your friendship was already kind of like on the rocks maybe and kind of falling apart.

Cora Lakey: Exactly, and I think the post covid relationships and the weddings that fell into that window, it’s such an interesting conversation because it’s so interesting to me. People just forget that time happened and how impacted all of us were.

And it’s normal and natural that like a lot of relationships fell out and we were all figuring out the messiness afterwards. Like no one in this lifetime has experienced a pandemic before. So I was just figuring it out as I went. I’ve never planned my own wedding before, so I was also navigating the emotions that came with that.

And so I was like, I don’t know, I was just very surprised by how shocked people were by it. ’cause it just didn’t seem like that big of a deal to me with all of the circumstances.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. I don’t think it’s, I think people are so quick to just be like Bridezilla. but you know, you talking about the friendship too, it’s like I’ve had friendships before where like.

Looking back, it’s like they made their choice to like separate themselves they almost look for a reason to just be like done. cause like, without saying too much, but like in our friend group, there was like a friend we’ve known for like years and years and like we were all bridesmaids in her wedding.

They ended up getting a divorce and she found a new guy and we were like really supportive of it. We’re like, you know, we’re here for you, girl. Like, whatever you need. ’cause it turned out it just wasn’t a great marriage, And when she had this new guy, we were like inviting them to everything.

Like, Hey, come to this. Bring him along. We’d love to meet him. And excuse after excuse, like never showing up and. Then things got really weird and it almost was like she was just waiting for like, I don’t know if it was a controlling, like if he was like control, I don’t know, I don’t wanna put like assumptions out there, but it just got really weird and looking back where like she was looking for a reason just to be like done.

 and so when I hear that, that’s what makes it makes me think of. ’cause I’m like, okay, like she was already kind of dwindling away. She just wanted a reason to be mad and be like, you know what? I’m not going to her wedding because of this, but

Cora Lakey: yeah. And that’s totally fine. But I had to accept that for what it was like, weddings are so stressful.

I was like, I can’t let this take up any more of my mental space. You know? It’s like, it is what it is. I was barely like, at that point I was just like, okay, over and done. I wish her well. And I felt like I just had to keep rethinking about it because the internet was so activated by it. I was like, yes.

It’s crazy that this friendship that really, we both put to bed at this point, it doesn’t mean that much to either of us, but the internet is just making it into something. It isn’t.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh yeah. It’s so easy just to change things to make it sound terrible. okay. So we kind of just like dove right in.

I love that. So I feel like we should jump into, these are wedding drama debates. So people send me on Instagram, their hot takes or unpopular opinions when it comes to wedding and I wanna get weddings and I wanna get your side on these. Okay. Not wanting to come to a wedding ’cause there are kids is less valid than not inviting kids.

So, well that’s like worded a very interesting way.

Cora Lakey: Yeah. Like they don’t wanna attend a wedding if there’s kids there.

Christa Innis: yeah, they’re saying like, if someone doesn’t want to come to a wedding. Because there are kids is less valid than someone being like, we’re not inviting kids at all.

that is like a really interesting way of writing that. I don’t put these together so I, ’cause I don’t wanna see them first, but that’s like a very interesting way. I

Cora Lakey: feel like it’s giving, like flying on an airplane and being upset that there’s kids there, like mm-hmm.

You’re in a public place, you aren’t in control of the airline. There’s gonna likely be a child there and you need to get over it. Like if the couple decides they won’t have kids there, it’s your decision whether or not to go. But making a stink out of it is weird. Yeah. I think what they’re trying to say is they don’t wanna attend an alcohol free wedding.

That’s my assumption. Because if there’s kids there, maybe they’re really religious or maybe there’s no alcohol, or maybe they’ll have to limit the quantities and maybe that makes them uncomfortable. So I feel like it is less valid. I kind of get what they’re trying to say, but

Kids at Weddings: A Divisive Topic

Christa Innis: yeah, it’s like they’re going, they’re talking about someone’s response to not wanting to go to a wedding.

So they’re saying like, if someone doesn’t invite kids, it’s okay. But if someone doesn’t wanna come to a wedding because kids are gonna be there, that’s not okay. people get crazy about the kids or no kids things at weddings and I’m just like, whatever the bride and groom want. ’cause I can see both sides.

Like I get not wanting a bunch of kids running around, especially kids you might not know. But I also get where you want, like your family there. Like we all, we invited all our nieces and nephews, but we didn’t have like friends kids there because most of them wanted like date nights out, like away.

Cora Lakey: We did that as well. Just kids of the family and I felt like that was a perfect solution. I have never heard of a wedding guest being bothered by kids being there. That’s so interesting. Yeah. So I think I agree with the original question, like that’s a weird thing to be bothered by.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I’ve had people, when I’ve done like skits on it, I’ve had people be like mad that like, well if you tell me I can’t bring my kid, I better not see any kids there.

I’m like, but there’s a difference if like, if it’s the niece of the bride or it’s the nephew of the groom that is family that’s different than like your the bride’s coworker and you can’t bring your kids. That’s so different. And I don’t know why people don’t see that it’s different. It’s

Cora Lakey: so weird.

I mean, hot take, no one cares about your kid and no one cares about your dog. Like no one wants them there like. It’s not as special to everyone else as it is to you. I love my dogs. They’re my little furry soulmates, but like I know people don’t want my dogs in their face and they don’t want them, you know, off leash at the park.

And the same thing goes for kids. It’s like, I feel like sometimes people. Are just too cheap to find babysitters and just don’t wanna deal with that. Or like they think that everyone wants their kid there and there’s a time and a place for everything. And totally like, I think it’s completely understandable to want the kids in your family that are gonna be in your life forever.

And you’ll see these milestones, like the pictures of my nephew at my wedding, like I cherish those pictures so much and even though like the marriage ended, like I’m keeping all of these family pictures ’cause they’re so special to me and already grown so much. So Yeah, it’s completely understandable to want your family there.

Not a random baby. We’re like, who is this baby? Like, I don’t know you.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Like I think about like coworkers that I invited to my wedding I maybe talked to them like half of them, like here and there. But like if I’d had their kids there, like I feel like that would be weird. They probably wouldn’t have even me, even had me ex or expected me to invite them.

But it’s just

Cora Lakey: your, your wedding is not free childcare. That’s weird.

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And every kid’s different. Like some kids are gonna love a wedding and be very well behaved, love the music. Other kids are gonna be like, this is boring. Get me home. So it’s hard to do a blanket statement of that.

 okay. Living together before marriage dampens the celebratory aspects of the wedding. Ooh, that is a hot take. I

Cora Lakey: don’t agree with that at all. I don’t either buy it before you buy it.

Christa Innis: Yeah. And I feel like, you know what, we’re in the 21st century. We don’t need to be like, because I feel like the reason people didn’t move in until they were married is ’cause they lived at home.

So they lived at home until dad gave them away, or, whatever that next step was. You went from one house to the next. That’s a good point. Yeah.

Cora Lakey: I think. So many issues come from living with someone too. When you see someone’s habits like this is disgusting. I don’t know if this is appropriate for a podcast, but I just was listening on another podcast.

They were doing an FAQ section and this girl was having an issue with her boyfriend peeing in their sink every day. Every day. He was peeing in the sink, not the toilet that was right there. Don’t you need to know that stuff before you marry someone? Live with them? Yeah. What? Yeah, I was so deeply dis disturbed and one of the girls was like, oh, like my husband’s done that before.

I was like. My husband never did that, thank God. And I would not be able to look at him the same if he did. Like, that’s so disgusting. No know these things. Like what if someone has really bad hygiene? What if they’re, you know, a slob? What if, you know, whatever the case may be. Like being roommates with someone is so important.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I totally agree. Like if your thing is like, we don’t wanna move in until it then more power to you, I think that’s great. But I don’t believe in putting down a relationship because they do it differently. I like our wedding was amazing event with all our friends and family and I, was never one of those girls that like, when I was like five I was like picturing my wedding and stuff, but once I met my now husband, like I was like, oh this is so, like, I could totally picture it.

I would, this is how I want my big wedding to be, whatever. But I don’t think it took away from it. But it also wasn’t like, oh my gosh, it’s the rest, the first day of the rest of my life I was like. We’ve lived together for, I don’t know, four years at that point. So like, I

Cora Lakey: think this is such a hot take, and I know we’ll get into hot Takes later, but I think people like Overdramatize weddings a lot, and I think mm-hmm.

A lot of it is just feeding into the wedding industry, right? Like the wedding industry is preying on people saying this is the most important day of their lives and they have to look the most beautiful they’ve ever looked, and they have to have the most gorgeous flowers. And being on the other side of that as a planner, it’s not.

Your wedding is what you make of it. Like if something goes wrong, if it’s down pouring, if your dress rips, like it’s not that big of a deal. Mm-hmm. It’s okay to have a redo. Like for our honeymoon. Like I was distraught because of everything that was going on on the internet and I was like, oh my gosh, like I can’t even enjoy this honeymoon because people, like, I was getting hit up by like major news outlets, like hundreds of messages.

Like it was awful. So we just did a redo honeymoon. Like it wasn’t that big of a deal. So like I feel like the importance of these moments are what you put into it, like what you make of it, and not that big of a deal on, the wedding day. Unless you make it that way. And unless you’re like, this will be the most important day of my life.

You know?

Christa Innis: Yes, I totally agree with what you’re saying. Like the way you said that, because there’s such pressure, and I think that’s where this whole like bridezilla like wedding, like, I don’t know, pressure comes from is like this absolute perfect day. And if one little thing goes off, like it’s not gonna be the day you ever you dreamed of.

And there’s all this like high expectations of like, making it be the absolute perfect day. And I agree with making it nice and stuff, but like things might go wrong and that’s okay and we just have to like, move on from it. like I would never, I wouldn’t say I was like a stressed bride at all. Like, people would be like, oh, you’re gonna be so stressed during it.

And I was just like, there was like, maybe a couple times I’d be like, oh, I’m kind of stressed, but like, I love planning stuff. So for me it was fun. But even like the makeup artist, the morning of, I remember she was like. You are like one of the most relaxed brides. And I was like, well, I figure at this point everything’s done.

Like if something happens, like we’re here, like, I don’t know. Yeah.

Cora Lakey: Oh my God, this is so off topic, but what were your thoughts on that wedding makeup artist drama on TikTok? Did you see that?

Christa Innis: Yes. Wait, the girl that like filmed herself taking off the, yeah, I actually talked about this. I was saying like, she planned that all along.

I think. I think so, because who, on their wedding day when things are already tight, puts up the camera, brings their maid of honor in the bathroom and is like, I’m washing this off. Like, she looked good. Yeah. So I don’t think it looked any different when the makeup artist like did it versus when she did it,

Cora Lakey: it looked exactly the same.

Like, I’m like, that’s why I was so confused. Like surely she’s pranking us, right? Like there’s no way. That was so weird. Like, I’m glad the makeup artist got her flowers and everyone got to see her point of view. But I cannot imagine just as a vendor, like how jarring that would be to go online and have someone roasting your business.

Christa Innis: Yes.

Cora Lakey: I tell you, it was awful.

Christa Innis: Yes. Well, and that just happened too with the photographer. Did you see that one? No. Oh my gosh, you have to look it up. I would almost say this one was worse because she tagged the photographer’s company and she was lying. She wasn’t telling the whole story. So basically she shared like 10 photos from her wedding and she was like, when you look forward to your wedding day, and it turns out like this, and it’s like this sad music from home alone.

You’re like the, and she shows like 10 blurry, blurry photos from her wedding. Mind you, if you looked at the full album, which people obviously were able to find, it was gorgeous. Like gorgeous, but the wedding reception was at nighttime and it was outdoors. So as a photographer you can only do so much with that.

But they did a great job with the photos, but she chose blurry ones to share. She chose, and I guess like the photographer then came on and she shared her side and she’s like, I’ve literally been talking to the mom and the girl I offered to give money back, which is not in the contract. I don’t have to, but she’s like, I did.

She worked with them she thought everything was fine. And then this girl who turns out she’s 19 years old, posted everything.

Cora Lakey: Do you think everyone’s looking for like a viral moment

Christa Innis: nowadays? Yeah, I think so. But. It’s like they don’t think when they do that, like it’s gonna come back to bite you if you’re lying.

Cora Lakey: Yeah, I know everything. I was thinking about that with the one that you just posted today with the bride. With the designer that was like ghosting her and then posted all of that during her wedding weekend. Like she absolutely could have sued her for emotional distress and defamation. Like people don’t think about that stuff until it’s too late, like mm-hmm.

We have to be so careful what we post online because. Like she was a hairdresser, like that could completely destroy her business and mm-hmm. People even think of the consequences of that stuff. Like that’s so crazy.

Christa Innis: I know. And that’s terrible. ’cause then people just go to like Yelp and they’re like, before learning the full story, they just see the seamstress post this and they’re just like, oh, one star.

And anyone can leave a review on Yelp. And so it like plummeted her reviews. And I’m like, that’s the scary thing. Like people just want to, it’s almost like they want validation in what they did or something. And so then it’s like, oh, I need someone to side with me so I don’t feel as crappy about what I did or something.

Cora Lakey: That’s very true. Yeah. I’ll never get the witch hunt mentality of the internet. Like the angry mob. I’m like, you don’t even care about this. Like, why are you

Christa Innis: doing this? No. It is quite literally insane that one of the negatives about. Internet, I would say. Um, okay, let’s get into this week’s story submission.

Um, so like I said before we started recording, I don’t read these ahead of time ’cause I wanna react with you. So I’m gonna read it and then we’ll like pause or feel free to stop me at any point to like jump in ’cause these are crazy stories I guess.

Cora Lakey: Okay,

The Engagement Ring Reveal Gone Wrong

Christa Innis: here we go. Okay. When my husband first bought my engagement ring but hadn’t yet proposed, his mom and sister wanted to see the ring.

He didn’t show, he didn’t want to show them before he asked me and told them no. They proceeded to demand, he show them and went through his free, went through his things until they found it. Can you imagine

Cora Lakey: my god?

Christa Innis: No. Something else that happened was he knew we wanted our, was, we knew we wanted our bridal party to be very small.

My sister and his best friend. That was all. I wanted his sister to have a more meaningful role, and I wanted her to do a reading during the ceremony. I came to find out a few months after the engagement that his family was furious, that his sister was not in the wedding. I didn’t really know his sister.

They didn’t go out or even talk to each other unless they happened to be at the same family event. Every time he was home, his mom and sister would yell at him about the fact that his sister wasn’t in the bridal party, and then his grandmother and aunts would call and yell at him. Ultimately, it wasn’t really worth the fight.

I wasn’t fighting. They were over, and I’m sorry, it wasn’t worth the fight. I wasn’t fighting. They were over my Bri bridal party to me, so I invited her to be in it. Wait, so she gave in because they were complaining and making him feel so bad?

Cora Lakey: God.

Christa Innis: Oh, I have so many thoughts. See, I, and I don’t know your take on this, but I don’t think siblings should automatically be in the wedding.

It totally depends on your relationship. Plus it’s like, it’s not his sister or, I mean, it is his sister, but it’s not like his brother on his side. Like you kind of, you choose your bridesmaids. Um, it’s like I had my husband’s sister and sister-in-law, but I get along with them really well. And so like, I couldn’t imagine getting married without them.

But if we weren’t close or he didn’t talk to them, why would I have ’em in the wedding?

Cora Lakey: Yeah, it sounds like there’s a huge boundary issue with this family and that’s so hard. Like overbearing in-laws is so challenging ’cause you love that person, but when you marry someone, you marry their family and mm-hmm.

Unfortunately, it sounds like that’s what happened here. Okay. So like the first part of the story, them wanting to see the engagement ring, I kind of get that. But it sounds like their intentions were bad. So like it makes me think of sex in the city when Aiden was gonna propose to Carrie and the ring was hideous and then Samantha stepped in, I think it was Samantha stepped in and got a gorgeous ring.

That’s totally her style. So that’s what I thought was the case. It’s like, oh, they’re really close to the bride. They know her style. She might not like this ring, but it just sounds like they’re being nosy and have bad intentions. Yeah. And maybe they wanna be close to you, but they are not emotionally mature enough to express that.

Yes. ’cause if they’re walking behind your back and can’t tell you to your face, you’re the bride, what their issues are and they have to go to him, like clearly there’s like a gap in the relationship and, and it sounds like it’s for the best that she wasn’t in your bridal party, but I guess she is now. So

Christa Innis: I know. Well, and my whole thing is like, I get, you know, maybe wanting to help and like see the ring like. But it’s also knowing when no is no, and knowing the boundaries. And so like the fact that they went in searching for the ring, I’m just like, where’s the boundary? So it sounds like he was probably still living at home maybe.

And they knew he hid it in his room or something. I would be mortified. I would be like, do you not understand what no

Cora Lakey: means? Cool. And what’s so scary about that is you think of the future and you want your husband to protect you. Especially, you know, they, that is true. Like they are the line between, you know, those communication issues and they’re supposed to filter everything and kind of keep the peace.

And if this is already happening where you guys are bending over for your in-laws, what’s gonna happen to you? Have kids like, yeah. Are they gonna be weird and put your kid in clothes that you’re not comfortable with? You know? Or like post pictures of them online, if you’ve said no, like, stuff like that, it’s like, mm-hmm.

What, what are those boundaries? And you know. I understand giving in now and trying to keep the peace, but to whoever you are listening to this, just keep this in mind in the back of your head for when you have kids.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I literally just read something because in my like newsletters, I like putting in like little tips for people.

I literally just read something about boundaries and it said, if you start slipping on your boundaries, that’s like letting the other person know, like you’re easy to like cave. So even if it’s a small thing, like you’re like, oh, you can, okay, sure you can come to my wedding, because they kept pushing and they were angry and they were rude about it.

That’s showing that in the future that if I just keep asking or if I just keep telling them, then they’ll say yes to me. So yeah, it’s like who knows what other boundaries they will cross. That is

Cora Lakey: so true. Yeah. I think it’s a good lesson for anyone listening that’s maybe in a similar situation and maybe, yeah, like I think a lot of women, like you said earlier, have people pleasing tendencies and maybe we need to break that cycle.

Yes. It’s not a bad thing.

Mother-in-Law Drama Over the Wedding Guest List

Christa Innis: I agree. I agree. Um, okay. It says something else occurred when we were looking for venues. We invited our mothers to come along with us and to go to lunch. After we looked at a few, our first visit, we knew that it was not the one and had to make an obligatory, obligatory small talk to we could politely decide, um, to decline and leave.

The coordinator asked how many people we were thinking of, and I said, around 100. Well, my future mother-in-law’s face just fell. And her whole demeanor changed. She suddenly said she wasn’t staying and stocked off. We had no idea what happened. We called her after to see if she was still meeting us for lunch and to see more venues.

I don’t remember if she said it curtly or not, but she said no. Um, oh yeah. I don’t remember if she said curtly and No, or she just didn’t answer either way. Several days passed, maybe even a week. She refused to speak to my husband. Wait, just for saying they were, they were inviting a hundred people. Oh. It came out that she was furious.

We were only inviting 100 people. Like communicate. She,

Cora Lakey: yeah, she wanted all her friends there and she knew that wasn’t gonna happen. Ew. But it’s

Christa Innis: like to not even say like, oh, you’re only inviting a hundred, like. I was hoping I could blah, blah, blah. Like she didn’t even like try to communicate. That’s the problem is like, she just was like, I’m gonna leave and ignore you.

Cora Lakey: No, they sound like a very emotionally immature family and I feel like that’s just something to note for yourself in the future because you’re going, like, it’s guaranteed you’re going to have boundary issues with them in the future, like. They sound like very challenging in-laws, and I think it brings up another conversation of accepting money for your wedding.

Mm-hmm. So we made a very conscious decision not to accept money from our in-laws for our wedding. They. We’re very insistent about certain things. So we’re like, okay, you can cover our engagement party or you can cover part of our rehearsal dinner before the actual wedding event. No money, because I did not want anyone to have a say in our wedding.

Like that was something I was very firm about. And that’s something you need to weigh the pros and the cons of is if you are accepting money from your in-laws, you’re technically accepting some of their wishes. And that includes if they wanna have their friends there, you know you’re gonna feel obligated to have your mother-in-law’s, five best friends that you’ve never met if she’s paying for half the wedding or she’s paying for the whole wedding.

Mm-hmm. So way the pros and cons of. Is it worth having a smaller wedding that I am 100% in control of that I can actually afford? Or are you okay with these boundary issues? But it kind of sounds like you’re not

Christa Innis: Yeah, 100%. Because you can be really firm with someone saying like, no, your money does not mean this, but they’re still gonna hold it over your head.

They’re still like certain people, um, they’re gonna be like, well, I’m paying for the open bar, so that means I get to bring all these people. Um, yeah, it’s, or I can drink as much as I

Cora Lakey: want, act like a fool. And you’re like, no, you can’t.

Christa Innis: Yeah, please don’t. There’s, there’s so much discussion around like, pay because, and it’s funny ’cause when I repurpose and like post videos on different platforms, different platforms have different feelings about it.

Um, and you could probably guess which ones, but there’s one that, there was a story where, um, the mother-in-law offered to pay for. The bride’s bouquet and the bride wanted a very specific thing, and the mother-in-law was like, oh, that’s really expensive. And she’s like, I’m happy to pay the difference. Or she’s like, the bride was like, I will pay for it.

Like, it’s okay. I understand you wanted to help. I’ll pay for it. Mother-in-law law was like, no, no, no, don’t worry about it. I offered the mother-in-law then called the B the um, flower shop changed it, so she didn’t know until the wedding and was mortified. She was like, I, this is not what I wanted. I always envisioned whatever flowers and the Cummins on one platform are mixed.

People are like, well, she, the mother-in-law paid for it, so she should be able to do whatever she wants. I’m like, no, she gave it out. Yeah. I’m just like, how is

Cora Lakey: it even a discussion? Yeah, like sometimes people insist like my in-laws like, so like, I’ll give you an example. Like my family is no Christmas presents.

We’ve just always been that way. Like it’s just not a thing in my family. My mother-in-law loves Christmas, would insist on buying Christmas presents and so I would feel obligated to match her energy. You know, like financial stuff is very murky and you know, I felt kind of uncomfortable with that because my family was just so not into that.

But I wanted to make her happy. But I also felt pressure because I was like, well, you’re doing this for me. I have to do it for you. So it’s like. Again with the boundary, things you need to assert your boundaries and way if you’re okay with uncomfortable things like that happening. But also, what’s wrong with the florist?

Like why aren’t they telling the bride that’s so messed up?

Christa Innis: Yes. Why? Like that, that, yeah, that was another thing is like people were like, why would the florist change it? The girl that sent it to me, it happened like 25 years ago. ’cause all these people were like, this didn’t actually happen. The florist wouldn’t do it.

And she’s like, no, it happened 25 years ago. It’s because the ma, the mother-in-law’s name was on it. Like she’s the one that signed it or whatever. And it’s her credit card information or I don’t, something like that. It’s crazy.

Cora Lakey: But also through following you, I have been shocked by how professional unprofessional vendors are.

The wedding dress designer, like so many people, it’s like, whatcha doing? You know? Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I, I’m always, I say like I’m always and never shocked at the same time because in general I’m still shocked about these stories, but I’m also like, it’s crazy. Like nothing truly surprises me ’cause I’m just like, these stories are just like ongoing.

Cora Lakey: Oh, I feel like I learned through working in events, like one of my mentors told me this, humans are the only unpredictable element. Oh yeah. It was so helpful. And like, especially dealing with a divorce now, like I’ve been so disappointed in people’s behavior and you know, people who said, I love you, I would die for you overnight.

Like, I’m dead to them. So it’s really interesting because, you know, I never would’ve, I would’ve been shell-shocked by that, right? Like before mm-hmm. Working in the vets industry. But because I recognize like human beings are just so unpredictable and like, we just have to accept that in every station of life, whether that’s personal things, weddings, divorces, you know, at work, like whatever it is.

Like if you just have no expectations of people, like it really helps you process when these crazy, dramatic things happen because it can like be so emotionally heavy. You know, you want your wedding today day to be a specific way, and like you have such a vision and then someone does something like that, you know, it’s so calculated and hurts you, it’s understandable to be hurt by that.

But if you just take a step back and you’re like, okay, you know what? Like people are just so unpredictable. Like, I can’t control this. It, it makes you feel so much better about things.

Christa Innis: Yeah. No, that’s a really good, really good point to have because I was just saying something my husband the other day. I don’t remember what, well, I don’t remember what it was, but there was something, and I was just like, this is why like over the years, like I’ve kind of just turned into like, not like a hermit, but like I just don’t get as emotionally involved in things as much because I’m just like, I, like I used to take things so personally, not saying I don’t about some things, but like, or so like emotional and I’m just like, people will, people, Mel

Cora Lakey: Robin says, yeah, yeah, for what we do.

Like we’ve heard it all, you know. So you can’t care what people think.

Christa Innis: Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I’ve had to like stop reading comments ’cause there’s certain people that are just like, so mean and Oh my gosh. And so like my husband will know immediately. He’ll be like, what did you read today? And I’m just like.

Nothing. He’s like, what did you read? And I’m like, well, this person said this and this. And he’s like, stop reading the comments. I’m like,

Cora Lakey: what? Nina’s comment you’ve gotten that you remember?

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Um, well, someone told me once, and this is why sometimes I stutter when I’m reading. Someone told me once that, um, I, what’s the word they used?

She was like, you need to, you should practice reading before you put, you film yourself because you sound, um, oh. What’s the word for not now I’m gonna sound dumb. Um, like you’re, you can’t, like, you sound like you can’t read or you don’t know how to, you’re illiterate. That’s what she said. She said, you sound illiterate because you can’t read on camera.

Um, I’ve had people say, um, I didn’t add for something once, and they said, um, I’m a, like, I’m selling out.

Cora Lakey: Oh my God.

Christa Innis: I was like, do you know how many I like turned down like, I barely do ads. Barely. And I was just like, really? I was like, I do things to like help brides, um, or you know, people, but Yeah. Um, I get mean ones on YouTube a lot.

Like they’ll say like, I’m like. Talking too much. I’m like, well, don’t watch it.

Cora Lakey: Oh my God. Yeah. YouTube is ruthless. Like YouTube shorts is a dark place on the internet. It’s like Twitter almost. I was shocked. Like when you have a video go viral on there. Good luck. It’s, it’s not pretty.

Christa Innis: Yeah. YouTube, I probably, I like stopped reading ’cause like this girl like ripped me apart and won one time.

Yeah. I’m so

Cora Lakey: sorry. That’s okay.

Christa Innis: I can laugh about it now.

Cora Lakey: It’s good. It’s good. Dinner table fodder. Is that what they say?

Christa Innis: Yeah. I usually need like a good week and then I’ll be like, fine. Yeah. Um, like, and, and the, and I I think it goes back to the people pleaser thing, right? Where I, I want to reply so that they either like understand me or they feel bad that they said it.

And there has been, weirdly enough, there’s been two circumstances where I’ve replied to like a mean comment. I. And they’ve actually messaged me and they’ve, they’ve been like, I’m actually really sorry. I said that. And I thought about like sharing it to be like, Hey guys, see, it does help, but I don’t know.

Um, yeah, one lady said like, I’m sorry, I was having a really bad day. I don’t know why I criticized you like that. Um, I think she like criticized how I talked or I said a word wrong or something. And she’s like, oh, I should have never said that. And another person apologized to, so then there’s like this people pleaser in me that I’m like, I want them to like see that I like, this is why I did something, or this is like why I do this kind of content.

And, but then I’m like, I can’t explain myself to everybody. It’s not Did it

Cora Lakey: make you feel better when they messaged you or was it just like, oh, okay. You

Christa Innis: know, ah, that’s a good question. I think it made me feel better, I think because I was like, you know what? Everyone’s allowed to have a bad day. Um, it just kind of sucks that they.

Felt the need like to come online. But my thing is that anyone that bullies online is probably dealing with something very bad in life, or they’re just an upset person. Like

Cora Lakey: yeah,

Christa Innis: like

Cora Lakey: humanizing the trolls is the best way to go about it. I think like whenever, whenever I’m having a really bad day online, ’cause my videos go viral on the wrong side of TikTok all the time.

I dunno why. I’ll literally go somewhere crowded. So I’ll go to like Whole Foods when it’s four o’clock after work or something, or like five o’clock, and I’ll look at all the people around me and be like, okay, I’m seeing these real human beings face to face. Like, do I care what these people think about me?

Like, would I care right now if, you know, if I was telling my story to them face to face, would they have the same reaction as these people online? Probably not. Mm-hmm. Because you know, when you’re a real human being and you see a human being face to face, like you aren’t as critical and you aren’t as harsh.

And I think sometimes, you know, the trolls. You know, they think that the people on the other end of the camera are robots. They’re not real people. Mm-hmm. And vice versa, I’m like, this is just a bot troll. Like this isn’t a real person. And then I’m like, wait, this is like a real person that, you know, potentially is going through something horrible or maybe there’s something wrong with them.

And like, it’s not my place to figure out what their problem is. Yeah. And I just have to,

Christa Innis: yeah. I saw something the other day where it was like, other people, and I’ve heard this before, I just needed a refresher. It was like, other people’s opinions of you is none of your business. And I was like, yes.

Because the internet opens us up to everyone’s opinion. Right. And it’s like you, we never used to get that. Like, if I had put something out in the universe before, like if I wrote something or if I acted in something, I wouldn’t know what everyone’s thought was. But now it’s like people put their every thought out there, and it really isn’t our business to know.

Like, if someone thinks we’re garbage or like we don’t know what we’re talking about, like. I don’t know. We have to like block it out a little bit.

Cora Lakey: It’s so true. And like it’s understandable to care. Like your brain is not supposed to know all of these opinions about you. You know? Like, especially I think you’re only supposed to interact with like 10 people, like in a week.

I forget what the statistic is, but like, if you’re looking at like, you know, your normal circle of people, your friends, your family, your coworkers, like knowing their opinions, it makes sense. Like it’s normal. You’re interacting with them every day. Well then you amplify that by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people.

It’s like, it’s not normal for your brain to be able to compute what all these randos are thinking about you. So like it’s so normal to care. Mm-hmm. But it’s how you respond to it that makes all the difference, I feel like.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I’m constantly learning of like how to like respond to people like that.

Cora Lakey: You got this?

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay. Um, back to this story. Okay. Another thing, we asked our families for their list of guests well in advance so we could stay on top of things and keep within the budget. My mother-in-law said she was working on it. No problem. We had time weeks, and then a couple of months go by.

We realized she hadn’t given us anything at all. Once again, my husband asked for her list. She said she was working on it. More weeks go by again. We realized we still had nothing from her. So we decide next time to see her in person. We would ask her again. She blew us off again. Weeks go by and we went to visit her and this time we asked if we could just go through her address book.

See, I feel like they’re giving her way too many chances. I would be like, after two times of asking, that’s it. Sorry. Like you’re so scared of

Cora Lakey: her.

Christa Innis: Yes, I know. I’m like, I feel like it’s just. You always wonder, like a lot of times, like the brides write the story and so I’m like, is the groom like feeling like he’s in the middle or she’s trying to appease him still?

Like what’s, I dunno what’s happening here. they asked if we could look at her address book. She came and took the thing away. So that was a no. Okay. Then I’d be like, then you’re not getting a list.

Cora Lakey: No. Yeah. What’s

Christa Innis: the problem?

Cora Lakey: Three strikes and you’re out.

Christa Innis: Yeah. My husband ended up coming up with his own list of people.

His mom might wanna invite why and ran it by her she still wouldn’t give up addresses. He spent hours using dial up internet to find addresses. See why is

Cora Lakey: so weird?

Christa Innis: I feel like they’re being too nice. I’d be like, okay, if you don’t send us a list, then you’re not gonna have anyone to invite. Yeah.

Cora Lakey: You have X date.

This is due. The venue needs it. We need to send out postage.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it’s not

Cora Lakey: by this date, you’re not getting invites. It’s so simple.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Because she’s already basically telling you, without telling you that it’s not a priority. It’s not important to her, or she just doesn’t wanna invite anybody

Cora Lakey: that’s beg her for a

Christa Innis: list.

Cora Lakey: Yeah. Like that’s where I wanna know like, how much is the mother-in-law paying, like if she, is she paying for a hundred percent of the wedding? Because that makes a big difference. Mm-hmm. Like that’s why she can act this way and kind of do what she wants on her own timeline because if she’s paying for it, that makes sense.

If she’s not paying for anything, it’s like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like why are you letting her walk all over you? You know? Yeah.

Mother-in-Law Ruins Wedding Day with One Comment!

Christa Innis: Well, and in the beginning for her to act so mad about the a hundred people comment, but then never communicate. It’s because I wanna invite more people or because, oh, I thought you’d have a bigger wedding.

Like nothing. She just is like being like sour and just being passive aggressive with everything, which is just like, okay, I don’t like it. I don’t get it. Okay. almost at the end here. Sorry, we’re kinda running over. okay. Which leads us to. I completely forgot about this part until one of your skits took me right back.

This leads me to the ceremony, which I thought went great. My husband seemed a tad odd, maybe a bit preoccupied, not runaway. Grew and Preoccupied or anything. It was just hard to pinpoint.

 Right after the ceremony, we were getting our picture taken and he informed me that as he was walking his mom in, she told him that she hated his vest.

So he spent our ceremony self-conscious. She did that on purpose.

Cora Lakey: okay. I feel like we need to have a conversation about overbearing mother-in-laws because I’m worried for this girl. Yeah. Like, this is such a long story of like point by point, by point, all these aggressions from your mother-in-law,

Christa Innis: uh, and how controlling or conniving is it to do it right before you’re walking down?

Cora Lakey: Yeah. Like,

Christa Innis: you know, you’re gonna get in his head. And just like almost remind him of like, I’m your mother, this is where I stand.

Cora Lakey: I think like, too, we wanna give people the benefit of the doubt. Like sometimes they say things that are, off the cuff or maybe thoughtless that you’re like, okay, maybe they were just being, thoughtless in that moment.

Or maybe they’re dumb. Like whatever. Like, but no, like, something I’ve really accepted recently is like, we’re all adults and adults are intentional and they are taught to think before they speak. And an adult woman made an intentional choice to make an aggressive comment to make your husband uncomfortable.

Mm-hmm. And that seems like, yeah, you’re right. It’s asserting dominance. And especially like, I think in the wedding ceremony, the tradition part, right? Like it’s like his family. And then there’s a transition where he becomes your family. So then they become the extended family and you’re the immediate family.

And it sounds like she recognized that was happening in a few minutes and wanted to put one last dig in.

Christa Innis: Mm-hmm. Gross. I don’t know girl.

Cora Lakey: I’m kind

Christa Innis: of

Cora Lakey: worried about you.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh. she said it was mostly covered up by his tux jacket and you couldn’t even really see it. So there you go. and the last thing, two to three years later, so they’ve been married few years.

Oh, well actually I don’t know how long this story happened though, but my sister-in-law got married and my husband was a groomsman. I was not sat with the family, nor was I in a single one of her wedding pictures. That is so intentional. Even after they added the sister in the wedding.

Cora Lakey: My god, this family is so immature and petty and just protect yourself.

Like I feel so bad. Like we need an update also. Yeah. what’s going on now? Because I feel like, yeah, these couldn’t be isolated incidents.

Christa Innis: No, I know. I wanna like reach out to her and be like, how long ago was this? What update do we have? Can we get more to this? Because that is, I mean, I have so many questions too, like what ended up happening with the guests?

Was she still mad? ’cause they stuck to a hundred people. What’s his sister-in-law’s deal? They allowed her to come in the wedding and then she still is like, mm-hmm. Despite you, I’m not gonna have you in the wedding and not even sat with the. So

Cora Lakey: weird. Why, like, did you watch Secret Lives of Mormon wives?

Yes. It sounds like Jen Affleck and her in-laws, like how they were so glowing and nice to the one and then to her, they’re just so dismissive.

Christa Innis: It’s just so sad. Like it’s like that. mother-in-law or in-law thing where they like picture a certain person to be married to their son and when they don’t meet their expectations, they treat them a different way.

But I’m like, he’s made his choice. He’s an adult. Like he chose this person to marry. She’s now a part of the family. But I also, as the husband, I wanna be like, you need to back up your wife first. Not saying he’s not, but to see that she’s not set with the family, I would be like, mortified.

Why Isn’t He Defending His Wife?

Cora Lakey: Yeah, let’s talk about the husband.

 not to sound like Kim Richards, but what, like, why is he not defending you? Like mm-hmm. That really bothers me because your husband is supposed to protect you. Why is he not doing that? Like, if my husband did not say, you better change the seat right now. Like, I would be so upset. Like, you don’t wanna like force someone to do something they’re not comfortable with, but I’m making broad assumptions here.

It sounds like he’s the only boy in the family and they’re very protective of him and cuddle him maybe. And maybe he needs to step it up and protect his wife, you know? Yeah. It’s like, no, like your wife should be the most important person in your life. You needed to do things to make her comfortable. And it sounds like he’s not asserting boundaries with his family.

Christa Innis: no. That’s where I got in the beginning when they like just started searching for the ring that he was like still living at home. And so they had that control over him of like, you know what, you’re still a boy living with mom and your dad and sister or whatever. And so we’re gonna tell you how to do things.

I don’t like it. I don’t like it. I don’t know. Maybe wrong girl. What one girl? Yes. Okay. I know we’re a little over time, so I’ll uh, do this last little thing with you and then we’ll, so this is our weekly confessions. So I’m gonna read confessions that people sent over to me and, we’ll just, we’ll react to them.

Okay. This one says, my in-laws wanted me to lie to their friends why they didn’t go to their wedding. And I told them the truth. Why?

Cora Lakey: Well, yeah, why are they putting you in that position? That is weird. We need more information here. Like, why do you know these

Christa Innis: people? I’d be like, I’m not, so she or she or he, I don’t know, but they were like told to like, lie about something.

But like in-laws are like grown adults. I don’t know. That’s weird. this person says, I hated my mother’s dress at my wedding. Couldn’t even fake it when she showed it to me. Aw. Oh no, that’s bad. Well,

Cora Lakey: whatever makes her feel pretty though. Because you know, a lot of people hate the bride’s wedding dress and it’s like no one should care, but the bride, and I think the same goes with your mother-in-law or your mom.

Like as long as she feels pretty, who cares? Like Exactly. Everyone’s only looking at you anyway. No one cares about anyone else.

Christa Innis: Yeah. As long as she’s not wearing a white wedding gown as the mother of the bride, its fine. Yeah, exactly. This last one says, I secretly don’t want to take anyone with me when I go wedding dress shopping.

And I’m gonna say, you don’t have to take anybody with you. It might be better to go by yourself if it might be overwhelming. I think that’s so

Cora Lakey: valid. And that is a hot take I have is like, I’ve never understood why wedding dress shopping is such a big deal, and like why we have to make it a production.

Mm-hmm. ’cause you wanna make sure that you are not being influenced by any other opinions. Yeah. And you feel you’re most beautiful and it’s really hard to do with other people. Like, I don’t know, like, especially like as women, it’s natural, we’re self-conscious about our bodies and like, I don’t want people to see me changing in and out of dresses or like get their opinion on my hips and my boobs and my butt.

Like, no, like So do whatever makes you feel the most comfortable and like sometimes your friends, bring that confidence out in you. Mm-hmm. And that’s great if you want them there. Like, I had people there, but at the same time, like. I, feel like it’s weird to have so much pressure around that.

Yes. Because it takes like 10 plus appointments. Like I know people who went to like, Emily Dato for example. Like she went to so many different appointments and she didn’t bring anyone and she’s a badass influencer. So successful. So like who

Christa Innis: cares? Yeah, exactly. Like you have to listen to what makes sense for you and what you’re comfortable with because if you’re hearing so many opinions and you know you’re gonna be influenced based on those, don’t invite them or do like a secret dress shopping just by yourself first.

You know what kind of style you like or pick it out first and just pretend like you can’t find anything with anybody else. Whatever you need to do to protect your piece.

Cora Lakey: Yeah,

Christa Innis: I love

Cora Lakey: that.

Christa Innis: Well, awesome. I know we went over a little bit, but I just wanna say thank you so much for coming on. It was so fun hanging out with you and like chatting and you so many good hot takes and opinions.

Yeah. I forgot we were recording halfway through. I’m like, oh yeah. I feel like I’m chatting with a

Cora Lakey: friend.

Christa Innis: I know. Me too. I know. It was fun to kind of just like. Go with the flow and just see what happens. well thank you so much for coming on. That was so much fun. Can you tell everyone where they can follow you and anything you’re currently working on?

Cora Lakey: Yeah, so you can follow me on TikTok Cora Lakey, and my Instagram is Cora Bry line, my ex-husband’s last name. I’m trying to change it so hopefully I’ll have Cora Lakey across the board. yeah. And right now I am just going through a lot of life changes. I am moving into my starting over apartment and I dunno, maybe we can do a different episode about divorce because that’s a whole other topic.

But yeah, stay tuned. Life updates coming.

Christa Innis: Awesome. Well, sounds good. Thank you so much.


Wedding Chaos & Bridesmaid Demands with Bethy Abdissa

Weddings are supposed to be joyous, but what happens when family traditions take over?

Bethy Abdissa, a wedding planner with experience across cultural traditions, joins Christa to dive deep into the unexpected pressures couples face. From toxic bridesmaids to demanding in-laws, she’s seen it all. Bethy shares jaw-dropping stories of brides forced to appease their families by having weddings that don’t reflect who they are. She also explores the bold decision of cutting out guests who bring negativity rather than joy. Plus, should you really have a bridal party at all?

If you’ve ever questioned wedding traditions or struggled with family expectations, this episode is packed with insights and real talk. Don’t miss it—hit play now!

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

08:45 Cultural Wedding Pressures & Family Expectations

17:49 The Bridesmaid Dilemma: Drama vs. Support

26:19 When Family Demands Take Over Your Wedding

35:39 Uninviting Guests: When It’s Justified

44:19 The Dark Side of Wedding Planning

53:49 Lessons from the Wedding Industry

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Bethy shares how many couples end up planning weddings that reflect their family’s wishes rather than their own.
  • The hidden drama behind bridal parties and why some brides are choosing to skip them altogether.
  • When it’s okay to uninvite a family member from your wedding.
  • The unexpected stress of planning pre-wedding celebrations.
  • Stories of overbearing in-laws trying to control everything.
  • How to balance tradition, expectations, and your own happiness.
  • Bethy reveals the biggest misconceptions about planning a wedding.
  • The importance of setting boundaries and making your big day about YOU.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “People think a wedding is about the couple, but so often, it’s about everyone else.”Christa Innis
  • “Just because someone is family doesn’t mean they deserve a wedding invite.”  – Christa Innis
  • “Bridesmaids should be your biggest support system, not your biggest stressor.”  – Christa Innis
  • “If your wedding is making you miserable, it’s time to rethink things.”  – Christa Innis
  • “It’s YOUR day—why are you planning it for everyone else?”  – Christa Innis

About Bethy

Bethy Abdissa is a dynamic wedding planner, content creator, and entrepreneur with a passion for storytelling and cultural inclusivity. Originally from Ethiopia, she moved to the United States 15 years ago and began her professional journey in finance and accounting. After realizing the corporate world wasn’t her calling, Bethy took a bold leap in 2022 to pursue her true passion: event planning.

With over three years of experience as a wedding planner and a lifelong love for party planning, Bethy now specializes in coordinating weddings across the U.S., particularly in the DC, Maryland, Virginia, and Minneapolis areas. She’s also diving into the world of content creation—sharing makeup tips, hair styling, wedding insights, and self-development reflections through her TikTok channel, @Bethy_Creates. Long term, Bethy is working toward becoming a therapist, bringing her full-circle journey of creativity, empathy, and purpose to life.

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Christa Innis: Hi, Bethy. Thank you so much for coming on.

Bethy Abdissa: Oh, thank you so much, Christa. I was so excited to be on your show. You’ve done such an amazing job and I was so excited when I got your invitation. Thank you so much for having me.

Christa Innis: Oh, thank you. No, I was, I was just saying before we started, like, I was like randomly on TikTok one day scrolling and I was like, is that Bethy? Because like everyone that’s listening, like we worked together years ago, we just discovered it was like eight years ago now that we worked together and it was one of those where like We got along so well when we worked together, but then we kind of just like went different directions and then it was a very I will say it toxic work environment We probably weren’t very happy there. I know I wasn’t so it’s so happy to be like reconnected and Hear that you work in the wedding space, which was so cool I was like what so before I yabbed too much yap too much Can you just introduce yourself and like what you do and then we’ll kind of go from there

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, thank you so much Christa again. Um, life is just full of like circles and you, you just don’t know where you end up. Um, my name is Bethlehem Abdissa, but people call me Bethy. I was born and raised in Ethiopia. I came here to the United States about 15 years ago. Just a summary of who I am. Um, I was in finance. Um, and I was interning and, uh, Chris and I were working in the same company when I was an intern when I was going to grad school.

Uh, so I thought I was going to end up, uh, on Wall Street, you know, making money. Um, and ending up, uh, I ended up in corporate America for a while and I was like, this ain’t for me. Um, and I just was like, I can’t do it anymore. And people, I’ve done people’s weddings just for fun. Uh, because, um, I have a bubbly personality and people kind of like are drawn to that and they wanted me to do their weddings. So I was like, you know what? Why not, um, take this a little bit more seriously? Uh, so in 2022, I started a wedding business and one of my friends was really good at that as well. So she’s done corporate events and we, uh, linked up together and I live in Minnesota. Um, used to live in the DMV area at the DC, Maryland, Virginia. So, uh, we both linked up and decided to start our own business, uh, women owned business. And so now it’s. It’s our third year being in a business and we’ve been doing a lot of weddings, exciting, exciting weddings. Um, and I, I fumbled, uh, on your, uh, what’s it called? TikTok randomly as well. And I saw that you were party planning and all the skits you were doing.

I was like, are people around the world the same, like from different cultures, different, like it’s the same stories. And I was drawn to it. And, um, So happy to see you very success, successful in your, uh, channel and just like reaching out to, to a lot of audience, to people, uh, sharing their stories. It’s such a beautiful space and you’re very talented. Um, not just, you know, to in your horn, you’re very talented to be able to play all those parts. It takes a lot of, um, taking in that space and I appreciate, um, all you’ve done so far. So. To just summarize, that’s who I am. But yeah, and I do a lot of things. I do a lot of makeup stuff. So if you go to my channel, a lot of the stuff is like all over the place, but yeah, I’m a creative person.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I’ve just say like, when you said bubbly personality, like you have, you do, you like, you like brighten up any room and I’m so happy to see that you like found your passion like what you enjoy doing because like it’s so true when you are in the wrong position or the wrong career, it can like Suck out your soul, you know, and so it’s so exciting seeing like your content and seeing all the things you’re doing because it’s just like brought out like your brightness even more.

Bethy Abdissa: So appreciate that. Thank you so much.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it’s so awesome to reconnect. And so we were kind of talking before we came on about like crazy wedding stories or hot takes. I mean, you see a lot of firsthand. Like what? I mean, you said like All over the world, you know, different cultures. What do you kind of What’s like your first hand experience when it comes to weddings? Do any like crazy stories off the right off the bat comes to mind? Um, that you’ve kind of experienced that you’ve kind of had to help with as a wedding planner.

Culture Clashes and Wedding Planner Dilemmas

Bethy Abdissa: Wow, even though I told you like a few stories where it’s the normal like, you know, mother in law kind of type of relationships. I am like going back and thinking about the first few weddings I’ve done and Um, it was a very sophisticated wedding because of the cultural, um, aspects of the wedding. Um, so there were, there were things that were cultural that needed to happen in the morning. There’s an afternoon. It was a very long day, 16 hours. Okay. To be exact. Um, so, um, we were trying to get everything done because first of all, we wanted our reputation to really like, you know, be the fact that like, we’re serious about keeping time. And that we wanted to change the cultural expectations because a lot of East African, or I would say even African weddings in general that I’ve experienced as a guest before, are known to be late. Like if you say seven o’clock, it really means nine. You know, you don’t go there till nine. So a lot of our work was like educating people. Hey, we need to start on time. And I remember we were very vigilant about making sure we were the first, you know, Ethiopian, uh, wedding planners that did that. And so the first wedding we did, I remember we were so on time that the groom was like, it’s rude to be on time. And I was like, I’m sorry, and we’re like trying to get things done and move, move simple like that the parts along and he’s like, we can’t really be on time like it’s rude. And that really like, like, I didn’t know how to go from there because the whole reason that we were hired was to, that’s literally what you already planned. Yeah, time and we organize everything. So I was like, you know what? I’m just going to let it be after this. Cause I was like, I don’t want it to seem like it’s my wedding and I care.

So I’m like. I’m just going to let it go and, um, instances like that and just managing different families expectation while because there’s, um, less respect for the, for the, for the career, for the profession in most African women. Um, like environments, you’re, you have to fight to kind of be like, hey, you need to do this this way and somebody is going to insult you. I’ve, I’ve gotten so many insults. I’ve gotten so many glares. So many, uh, yeah, so it’s, it’s a lot of like first the educational aspect of it was high. But there’s one wedding in particular where a few days before the wedding, the bride calls me and I’m parking by my door, trying to get inside. But you know, when you started the business, you were very accessible over the phone.

And so I was very accessible and you would call me random times and I’m telling you random times, sometimes 10 o’clock, 11 o’clock. Uh, yeah, that’s, that’s on me because I didn’t know how to set boundaries, to be honest, but, um, she calls me, she’s like, his family’s coming in from, uh, from out of town. And I’ve planned to clean the house today, but he wants to host a party. And I was like, okay, what’s the problem? And she’s like, well, I want, I want the house cleaned and I don’t want anybody to, to do parties together. Okay. And she’s like, I don’t know if this is a right decision for me. I was like, oh my god. Marry him? Yeah, because Because of that? Yeah, because I think it kind of brought in the, the, the expectations of family and the compromise.

She probably never thought that would happen because they live in different states. Uh, and maybe that really like opened up her eyes to really like. Oh my God, I might actually need to, I might actually need to be with this family forever. I don’t know if that’s the case. And the thing is like, I know I have a way with people, but like. I don’t know if I should be giving you therapy advice at this moment, but I was like, you know what? I just got to do what I got to do. And cause it’s a few days away and I have to have a wedding. Hey, you know, in a relationship there’s compromise. Maybe you can schedule it in a way where you’re using plastic plates instead of actual, I’m not kidding you. I’m going through the details of how she can still Let him have his party with his family, uh, while still being able to clean the house and prepare the house for the event. So I, I gave her a schedule, you still have two days, let him have the party tomorrow and then you can clean on Friday. I’m not joking.

Christa Innis: I hope you were charging overtime. 

Bethy Abdissa: No, that’s the thing. How do you even do that? Like It’s almost like the, the access is so high after you get hired, like that’s something I’m trying to incorporate now because I’m trying to draw boundaries, but it’s almost like they feel like you’re their person and you’re that person that they come to. And I have, I’m still yet to discover what that looks like, but majority of my job is like therapy. And that’s what I’ll tell you. Like it’s therapy, uh, saying, Hey, in a marriage. Um, you know, this happens and I just got divorced like maybe eight months before after that happened. So for me to give marriage advice was weird, but I was like, you know what, I’m just going to have to do it.

Christa Innis: You’re like, we gotta do what we gotta

Bethy Abdissa: do. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So those are some of the stories.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Well, that’s the thing with like cell phones, too. It’s like this day and age, like people can access you at any point. So like, we also feel like, oh, they can call me or they can text me. So I have to respond. And I think it’s like a constant thing of being like, okay, just because I have a phone and I can be accessed doesn’t mean I should allow access at all points. And that’s a good like conversation about boundaries. Um, like the job that We worked together. That’s I think what kind of did me in with teaching me about boundaries, especially with come when it comes to work, because that said Boss, it would be like a Sunday afternoon, I’d be with my family and I’d get a text and it wouldn’t be just like, hope you’re having a good weekend.

Of course not. It’d be like, why didn’t you do this? You need to do this, and it would. My heart would be pounding so that I would have such anxiety on the weekends. I’d be like, oh my gosh I’d be on vacation. I get texts from him and all this crazy stuff and I was just like yes Yes, yes, because you know like growing up. I was a people pleaser. Yes girl So I would say yes to everything and then you kind of realize like if I’m saying yes to everyone like I’m like that famous Quote like I’m saying no to myself But it’s hard, like, especially in, you know, a profession of wedding planner, you want them to trust you, you want them to look at you as that point of contact, so like, how do you be accessible, but not too accessible to where you’re like, it’s take eating into your own person.

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, exactly. And I think that’s like, still something I’m navigating, but I think it’s more so. Um, I do this like assessment of the person before now when we’re chatting and figuring out if we are a match because I’ve understood that like not all money is good money like Like I had a I had a bride. I I kid you not Um, she would, uh, WhatsApp message me at midnight and the thing is, like, I, I have ADHD, so if I don’t respond right away, I probably won’t respond until three, four days.

Like, that’s just the type of person I am. So I, I would respond and I would say, and then in the end I had to draw a boundary. Like I was like, Hey. You can only contact me. You can only access me during these hours. Um, after that, it will have to wait another 24 hours and it really is uncomfortable, but to have these conversations had has made me like a better wedding planner, a better, even business person, because now I get to choose the person I work with. Not every business that comes to me is worth having, you know?

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. I think it’s like with, um. Kind of how you get interviewed by your client at the same time you’re like you guys are like interviewing each other to make sure you’re the right match like because yeah, it’s like you don’t want to just say yes to anybody. You want to make sure it’s a good fit like you’re going to fit all their needs and you’re going to they’re going to work well with you know your schedule or how you do things as well. Um, for sure. Um, yeah, I feel like that’s like one of those things where it’s like you want to like help and you want to do a good job. So you’re like, we’re used to just being like, okay, I’ll say yes. But then it’s like, I feel like like what you said when we set boundaries and this goes for like all conversations. A lot of the stories that we talk about when you set boundaries, you’re not it. Saying no to everybody and being the mean person, you’re actually just protecting your peace a little bit, and you’re allowing yourself to approach situations more peacefully and happily, I feel like, in my experience, because then you’re not just like drudged by like, oh, this person nonstop contacts me, you’re like, oh, I’m excited to like work with this person, or I’m excited because, you know, I work with them on this point, you know, and it’s It’s protecting your peace.

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah. And sometimes you have to actually spell it out because like, for instance, our day of coordinator package says 30 days out of 30 days before your wedding, um, we will, you’ll have access to us. Basically. We start the coordinating where you hand us off the hard work you’ve done. It’s like you’re, you know, stress free months. And I have to spell it out and say. You know, this does not mean that, you know, those 30 days I become, you know, you a hundred percent. And I stress, I probably will have another wedding that I’m working on. So it’s like, I just have to spell it out and say, this means that you can contact me during business hours from this time to this time, because first it was just like any time, you know, they would call me, can we set a meeting?

Can we, can we meet now? Can we meet now? And there is just like. No consideration for like this person. It has a business or has a life or even like is attending to other brides and grooms Like there’s no it’s like, you know straight like the only yeah, there’s nothing they see but themselves So it’s like I have to spell it out. I we do other weddings as well you’re not the only way like I hate doing that, but it’s also like Take some responsibility for yourself, but also be in a position where when I show up I show up a hundred percent And like when I am setting up a meeting for two hours, those two hours is yours and nothing else, uh, rather than me giving you scrapes or leftovers.

When the Groom’s Sister DEMANDED to Be a Bridesmaid

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah, I absolutely, I love that. I think that’s a great point. So let’s kind of talk about some wedding hot takes. Um, and I get some that are like, that are sent to me from time to time. Um, but it’s just, I just kind of want to get your opinion on these. Um, okay. Should couples be expected to write personal vows or traditional ones just fine?

Bethy Abdissa: I think traditional ones are just fine. For me, it’s more simplicity. Like, if they want to do their personal vows, some personal vows need to be kept. Personal. I, I, like it’s too much to, it’s almost like you’re pouring out your heart to the entire, um, congregation, whoever is in the wedding, where you could just keep it for your video. Maybe do like what I suggest couples do is they have, if they have a videographer, great. Have that, you know, be part of your, um, video where they can, you can read it to each other. without having it, you know, all guts out on ceremony. I have been loving more and more 10 to 15 minutes ceremonies because it’s, it gets to the point, the person that marries them, I would.

Say it’s someone who knows them. That’s also you can tell by the wedding Like if they just picked a random person versus a person who knows both of them or has spent time To get to know the couple before the wedding I’ve had couples that got Officiants over from the not and I can tell Like, you don’t have to say anything because it’s just so, like, dry. There’s no, like, humor or even, like, knowing the couples into it, so there’s no creativity. It can be 10 15 minutes of just, like, these are the couple, we love your love. You know, get together and then do the traditional vows, rings and everything. So I, I lean towards more traditional vows, um, but still have personal vows maybe to yourself or yeah,

Christa Innis: I’m to tell you, yeah, we got ours on the nut and she was so great. Yeah. I think we got really lucky because they’re not all great. I entered, we interviewed a few. And we were supposed to have my uncle do it because he, like, married all the cousins in the family. But last minute he wasn’t able to do it. And so we found ours on the net and she was marvelous. Like, but we met with her a lot to, like, customize everything. I think we met with her probably two or three times. And she, like, She, we each wrote our own vows, but then she looked them over and made sure they kind of like matched up because you don’t want someone that’s like, you know, has like this super long one. Then someone else has like two sentences. So she like matched them and like worked with each of us to kind of like get them aligned. But I think we got lucky. We even had friends that were at our wedding end up using her because they like loved her.

Bethy Abdissa: Oh, that’s amazing.

Christa Innis: But yeah, we definitely, for our first pick was someone that we knew, but

Bethy Abdissa: yeah,

Christa Innis: um, so we’d be like, we rather would have someone that has experience if we couldn’t get someone that we knew.

Bethy Abdissa: I agree. And I think just the personal vows are, I don’t know, maybe it’s, I don’t think it’s the right time or space for, for that kind of vulnerability. I guess maybe I’m just, maybe I’m just a bit weird on that, but. You know, I’m the type of person that says, what makes you happy? What does, you know, what really makes you happy? How can we make it work? Um, I, but personal reference preference would be that we do like, um, traditional vows and then, cause most people are actually like, I don’t know if you were already married, but most people are already married or they’re just doing celebrations though, at least the ones I’ve done, um, and then, and then they’re just doing it to just, you know, for the, for the, for the day.

Christa Innis: Right. No, I totally agree. So what is your opinion on uninviting guests for different reasons, like let’s say your budget changes or something happens with a guest that you were going to have come? Do you agree with uninviting people?

Bethy Abdissa: Um, before, if you asked me this before, and I mean before I started this business, because I was married before, right? Um, I would say no, I, I’m a people pleaser, like there’s no way, there’s no way I would not invite all 700 of my, my parents, friends, like, you know, even though my wedding was like 300 people and it was during COVID. So, like, um, if it wasn’t like, now that I am thinking of. Possibly getting married to someone again.

I am only inviting people that I know, that I know, that I know, that I know, that I know. Right? Not just like, know. Are gonna be in our lives. Like, or are gonna be somehow in our future. And I am not shaky about, you know, their perceptions towards me or my relationship or anything like that. I’m very harsh on cutting off people now. So, I would uninvite people if I feel a certain way. I would cut off even bridesmaids, groomsmen, you know.

Christa Innis: There’s no telling.

Lessons in Wedding Tantrums: When Adults Act Like Toddlers

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, the thing is like, I think, um, I don’t want to keep pleasing or, if it takes away from the bride’s or the groom’s happiness, just to please somebody. You’re spending money on it. They’re eating your food. They’re sitting on the chair you paid for. Um, I, I hope to God those are the people that you want to see. And you want to, like, I don’t want my mood to change if I’m seeing somebody, you know, and my face is just going to change because they’re there. Like, I want to 100 percent protect the presence that I’m in.

Um, so, I, I would say uninvite anybody that doesn’t, actually I have a, I have a good example. I had a bride last year. Uh, where, um, a month before her wedding, her Uh, what’s it called? A maid of honor was acting weird. She was acting weird and she told me and she, she said, Hey, hey, Bethy, my, you know, maid of honor is acting weird. She’s doing this. She’s doing that. She’s doing this. And I normally, I’m not going to give you advice. I don’t, I don’t give out solicited advice at all because I, I’m very careful. I don’t want them to come back and be like, you told me. So I don’t give a son solicited advice. I said, Oh, okay, just, you know, keep an eye out for her.

Make sure your happiness comes first, um, and you know, just protect your peace. Um, and then a week or two after that, um, she, I think something else happened that aggravated the situation between her and her maid of honor. And this is a person she’s known like 20, 30 years. So yeah, it’s a long, long time, uh, but she cut her off. She wasn’t, she wasn’t a part of the bride, the bridal party anymore. And she had one less person on her side, even though her groom had. Um, one more person.

Christa Innis: Wow. So things just felt weird or like there were specific things that she did that were like questionable?

Bethy Abdissa: Very shady. Very shady behavior. Just wasn’t supportive. Uh, her happiness wasn’t making her happy. Maybe some people internalize it. Um, they weren’t, if they’re not married and somebody else is married all the time. I see it all the time, especially bridesmaids. They’re so weird. So I, every time a bride, when I do my consultation and she says, I don’t have bridesmaids, I’m like, good for you. Because not necessarily because that’s always the case, but especially if you have more than three or four. There’s gonna be one bad apple. Like, there’s just gonna be one weird person that’s gonna maybe try to control things or is feeling insecure. Some sort of drama. So, like, less drama for me, less work for me. So, I always say, if you have bridesmaids, make sure they’re the people. Like I said, it goes both ways, right? Not just guests, but like, your vital party needs to be 100 percent on your side.

Christa Innis: Yeah, yeah, I’ve done I’ve been in lots of weddings and I would say I would say usually like the bachelorette party I feel like brings up a lot of drama or like planning stuff. There’s usually a few I’ve definitely seen the drama Luckily, I haven’t been in a wedding where like on the wedding day. There’s drama that I can think of Maybe I blocked something out. I don’t know. But like, it’s a lot. It’s a lot with a lot of girls and I feel like there’s a lot of pressure to have people in the wedding that you wouldn’t necessarily, like, a lot of the stories that get sent to me is like parents were like, you have to have your sister in the wedding when they’re not close or you have to have your childhood friend that they grew up with and they’re like, I’m not really close with them anymore. So they feel this like pressure to like appease their parents and have someone in that doesn’t really like fit in the mix or It’s not like a good person, maybe, and that kind of causes some awkwardness.

Bethy Abdissa: Especially coming from a, for me, our background, a lot of the Ethiopian, Eritrean, these kinds of weddings are. Religious by nature, reli. There’s some sort of religiousness aspect aspect to it, but maybe the bride and groom are not that religious. Mm-hmm . And so they would have a wedding that really says nothing about them, just because they wanna appease, like their family, their grandparents, they don’t wanna, um, disappoint anybody. So you can see that happening because they, it is just part of the culture. So I’m like. But then they would have a separate party, like, by themselves, um, so it’s just more money for, you know, people you don’t, you probably won’t even see again. You, you probably don’t even know their names. Yeah. But that’s just usually the case.

Christa Innis: I’ve definitely heard of that happening with, uh, with some, a couple people I’ve heard of like having like a separate wedding because they wanted the one that would appease their parents and then they had a separate one. Um, yeah. In case they’re listening, I don’t want to say who it is, but I’m just kidding.

But yeah, it definitely happens. Um, okay. I want to jump into this week’s blind wedding submission. So this is our blind reaction, I should say. So these are wedding submissions that people send me. Um, I’ve not read it yet. Um, I just kind of grabbed them from the document and so we’ll kind of see what happens, feel free to stop me at any time and react, or I’ll kind of just like pause here and there. Here we go. Let’s see what we got. Okay. My husband and I had been together for eight years when we got engaged. We were childhood sweethearts getting together at 17 and 18. So no one was surprised when we announced it. Everyone knew it was coming and was so excited for us. We couldn’t wait to start planning. We set our wedding date for three years later to save money and avoid conflicts with other family and friends weddings that we already knew about. Everything was going great until it came time to ask the bridal party. Here we go. We’re just like, we knew, I swear I did not know this was about. Hey. I predicted it.

Bethy Abdissa: Come on. Tell me.

Christa Innis: That is so funny. Oh my gosh. You’re like, I warned you guys. I warned you. I told you. For context, I already knew my husband’s younger sister, Emily, before I even knew him. Names have been changed. Um, we were in the same class in high school, had mutual friends, and were friendly. However, when I had started dating her brother, she was furious. She made us feel like the worst people in the world, even screaming at us in public, just because we held hands while walking together. Ooh, okay. Um, another bit of context, we’re Irish, and bridal parties here are typically much smaller than in the U. S. Most couples have two or three bridesmaids and the same number of groomsmen.

Um, sometimes only one of each. The bride and groom also cover all expenses for the bridal party, including attire, shoes, hair, makeup, and a thank you gift. So it’s common to choose people you’re closest to. For my bridesmaids, I wanted my best friend of 15 years to be my maid of honor. My cousin, who’s just 20 days younger than me and has been my best friend my whole life, um, and my college best friend, whom I was a bridesmaid with for the year before, or who I was a bridesmaid for the year before. To give more context, my maid of honor lives in the UK, my cousin lives in Japan, and my college based friend, college best friend, is 40 minutes away. I’m getting into specifics here. This could be anybody, though, guys. Um, I was so excited to ask them. I made personalized cards with pictures of us through the years, wrote heartfelt messages and included a team bride sash.

I mailed the two cards overseas and plan to give the third in person since it was my only chance to experience that moment. One evening, we were discussing wedding plans with my husband’s family, something we often did, as both families have been supportive up until this point. I mentioned we were visiting my college friend to ask her to be in the wedding party, and my husband was asking her husband to be a groomsman. That’s when everything went south. Oh my gosh. It literally is like we predicted this story. That was so weird. I told you. Go ahead. I’m excited. I know. Emily completely lost it. She started yelling, insisting it was unfair that she wasn’t included, that because she was his sister and had gone to school with me.

She also claimed it was wrong to not have any family in my bridal party. For reference, my husband wasn’t asking my brother either, because in Ireland it’s not expected unless you’re extremely close. She threw a full tantrum, stomping her feet like a child, shouting at us, and demanding to be a bridesmaid. Could you imagine demanding to be someone’s bridesmaid? Like, my thing is, like, if they don’t ask me, like, That’s fine. Like, they have a different vision. Like, I’m not going to demand, because at that point, it’d be so weird then to be in the wedding, because you’re just there because you demanded.

Bethy Abdissa: You’re not wanted. Like, you’re, it’s almost like you broke into somebody’s house and you’re eating food. Like, it’s, it’s weird. Like, why would you even like be excited? But, uh, we already knew this was going to go left anyway. I’m excited how, how this ends. Yes.

Christa Innis: There was so much entitlement, and she said some truly nasty things.

We explained our choices, and I pointed out that if I asked her, I would also have to ask My husband’s two other sisters. Wait, he didn’t even mention that he has two other sisters. That’d be three more people. And we simply couldn’t afford a six person bridal party. His mom tried to calm things, things down, but we ended up leaving. I felt awful, like I was being made out to be a terrible person. So they don’t even mention the fact that he has three sisters and this sister’s demanding that she’s in it. It’s like, It’s not like all the other two sisters were in there and you were excluded, like, no sisters were in there.

Bethy Abdissa: I think she’s, obviously, there’s way more, my, my psychology antenna is flying off the radar right now, because it feels like she’s always been jealous or wants to outshine the brother, or, you know, some, I’ll tell you, I’ve seen this multiple times, some sisters have weird attachments to their brother, like, I don’t know, maybe. Kind of almost like they feel like a lot of these types of things happen, especially from my background I’ve seen it like even when I was young they would have weird attachments to their brother as if like their brother is Like their own husband like and I’m not saying something like this is not I’m John I’m not trying to throw out anything that’s weird but if they have some sort of weird attachment when an outside person comes in and takes or You know, has his attention, maybe they were already very too close to a point where it’s not normal that now his attention is like deviated towards this woman.

And now instead of having self awareness and saying, Hey, like my brother has his own life and now I have to figure out my own life. What they tend to do is like exert that like neediness and very codependency on, on the woman because she’s the outside, she’s the enemy. Right. So I’ve seen things like this all the time, and they would, they would act weird. The outbursts, these things are just like, almost like a, like, um, how do I say, it’s the outside depiction of what’s actually going on in the inside. She’s just not well. Like, she’s not okay.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that, like, reminds me of a story. I did a skit on it, actually, and it’s one of, a really popular one, and they were twins. It was a boy and girl twin set, and when he was getting married, they decided they weren’t, I think they were gonna each have one, I did it so long ago, they were each gonna have one or something in the wedding, and the twin sister was like, well, I’m walking him down the aisle, and they’re like, well, no, we’re not gonna have him walk down the aisle.

She’s like, well, I’m his best man, and she, like, tried so hard, like, up until, like, she found out, um, What dress the the maid of honor was wearing and bought the same one It was this crazy thing and she like would not let it go And this was a story someone sent to me like I don’t even know probably over a year almost two years ago now And that was the first I’d like heard something like that in there and the bride sent it and she was like she was so protective over her brother Saying like she needed this part in the wedding because she was his twin sister And she was just as important as the maid of honor and as the bride and it was like she could not comprehend that she was not the bride marrying her brother like

Bethy Abdissa: yeah no it’s so funny you said that because it’s also like they they have this like Um, they, they feel like they’re owed something because she probably introduced them, right? Or I was there like when this happened, um, I’m sure if she has her own boyfriend, her own husband, she would not even like be that obsessed. But there is like almost like a jealousy of like, I was there when it happened, but it didn’t happen for me. Now I’m watching you like kind of grow and move on into this relationship while I am being. You know, yeah, because I’m she’s she feels like she’s being abandoned.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it’s like the toxic mother in law but instead sister in law where they’re kind of like don’t leave me like I I deserve this as much as you do so like bring me along for the ride kind of thing.

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, like, make me a bridesmaid is not because I love you so much, uh, the bride, it’s not like, Oh, I want to stand next to you and you’re married, like, it’s not coming from like, I want to support you. It’s like, somehow, some way my presence is going to be known and I’m not leaving whatever union you guys are building now. I’m going to be there.

Christa Innis: Right? Like, even like

Bethy Abdissa: going forward, if they had a child together, that person is going to be problematic.

Christa Innis: Yes. I, I always think about that too. I’m like, thank God I have amazing in laws. I get along with my sister in laws and all that because I hear these stories and I’m like, people like that are like, I’m moving in next door. Do you have a spare bedroom? I’m moving, you know, like they don’t understand the boundaries of like, no, this is a new family. He’s starting like, let’s have a break there.

Bethy Abdissa: No, I’ll be honest like even my brother and I were very close like super close one year and nine months apart And when when he introduced me to his wife I knew well before she became his wife, right? I knew she was gonna be his wife like something in me told me It’s not like anybody else that he’s introduced me before I didn’t care about them But this one I when I met her my heart told me she was gonna be his wife.

Christa Innis: Yeah,

Bethy Abdissa: I had like a moment of like Damn, like, we’re not gonna, I’m not gonna have that access like I used to before. It lasted two months, that feeling, though, right? Like, it’s like, I was like, oh my gosh, but then now, like, I think I love her more than I love him, right? Like, I, generally, I tell him that, too. Like, if, if they’re, like, even chit chatting and I see them, I’m always on her side. I’m always giving him a hard time. But, like, I understood that, like, Yes, it feels weird to, you know, let go of somebody who is like, he’s my younger brother. So it’s like who you are attached to your whole life. I understand that because I felt it, but there’s also like this, he’s building his own life. And I’m going to support him in any way I can and for me, it was letting him go, letting him make those decisions, um, and living his own life.

Christa Innis: Yeah. And now you have a new sister, which is like, Oh my

Bethy Abdissa: God, like she’s the best, like I would trade him for her. Like, that’s how I feel. I love that.

Christa Innis: Well, yeah, it’s like people like that. Don’t like realize people in the stories. I don’t realize is you’re just gonna make it harder for everyone to have a relationship with you because you’re not gonna make it. The brother’s not gonna want to hang out with you if you don’t like his wife or you make a stickler about everything. And then it just makes everything more uncomfortable. But if you guys If you supported him and got along, then they would want to invite you to more things, and they’d want you to be around, and you and the wife would have a good relationship, and it’s just like, it’s hard they don’t see it like that.

Bethy Abdissa: She would probably have made her her bridesmaid. I mean, that’s seven years they’ve dated, right? Like, if she wasn’t weird, in seven years, you could have built a beautiful bond with the sister, where, with the new wife, right? Where you could actually be a bridesmaid, not actually Intrude into a relationship, but she could have invited you in and because you would have probably been close to her And I think like your feelings are meant to be felt.

That’s what I say all the time Like your feelings whatever feeling you have if you feel abandoned if you feel like you’re left out Whatever your feelings are meant to be felt but your actions Your feelings shouldn’t dictate your actions, like I feel abandoned, therefore I’m going to throw a fuss and make everybody miserable. No, I feel abandoned, therefore this is my responsibility to take my own, uh, feelings into control and understand that people move on.

Christa Innis: Mm hmm. Okay, you said earlier that as a wedding planner, you feel like a therapist. I feel like you’re a therapist. That was such good advice. I’m like, I need therapy time with Bethy.

Bethy Abdissa: I, I’m telling you, like, the more I spend with people, time with people, and I understand, like, how they’re thinking, how they’re talking, like, some skills are just coming into, I don’t know, maybe I need to go to therapy school and just, you know, have some sort of certification for people, but truly, I, I enjoy. Um, I, I understand feelings, like I’m not dismissing the fact that, but her outer reactions are just saying, I’m needy and I need people’s attention.

Christa Innis: Mm hmm. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Okay, let’s see what we got here next. Um, so she made her feel like she’s a terrible person because of the tension. We decided to hold off on officially asking my third bridesmaid. I didn’t want to make things worse by having someone post about on social media. That’s very considerate, which might further upset Emily. Three days later, after feeling nothing but anxiety and frustration, my mother in law called and asked us to come over to talk things through. We agree. and went that evening.

Once again, I explained that the bride and groom cover all the bridal bridal party expenses. So it’s important to choose people you love and feel comfortable around. I had already decided I wouldn’t cave to Emily’s demands, especially after how disrespectful she had been. Not just about this, but from the very beginning of our relationship, I understood that she was upset, but that was no excuse for being rude and hurtful. I stood my ground even when she yelled at me. I told her that her behavior was only making me more certain of my decision. Good for her. Um, I got upset and snapped a little, but I was exhausted from the emotional toll of it all. My husband, thankfully, was fully on my side. He backed me up, um, stood up for me when his sister was being nasty and didn’t let her steamroll the situation.

Big credit to him. It’s never easy to stand up to family. We left. I felt horrible, like I had done something wrong. In the end, because I hate conflict and wanted to avoid more drama, I never asked my college best friend to be my bridesmaid. I just had to. It’s my one regret from my wedding, even almost two years later. That makes me so sad because she was really firm. I love that she was firm and was like, I’m not giving in to the sister. But then to never ask the third person because she was like, this is what blew up the whole situation. That’s what, I feel so sad for her.

Bethy Abdissa: That is, that is very sad because, um, maybe the best friend is understanding. Like I’m hoping she is, but at the same time, I would say like weddings and like when, when you’re doing weddings or you’re going through a hard time, like a funeral or some devastating things, those are the times where you see people’s true colors. Like. Like, genuinely you will see people who are truly happy for you, who are not happy for you, people who would, you know, be there for you and, and vice versa.

And so, I don’t know, for me, like, when there are weddings. My, uh, like, uh, ex friends, now they’re ex friends because their wedding situation, what happened during their wedding, how they were, they were treating me as a, as a person, that really cemented our relationship, like, I don’t know if she’s, the best friend is able, able to move forward from that, even though I can understand the Brights decision because she’s going into this family and this family is probably going to be with her forever. Um, and that’s the idea. Like you’re building, she was looking forward and made a decision based on that. Um, but I think the harder thing to do would have been drawing that boundary and maybe cutting that sister off. That would have been the hardest thing to do. Um, then really like. At the expense of a probable friendship that she lost or I don’t know, there’s manliness or you know, there’s, there’s probably some, some difference.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it sounds to me too like in the beginning that I think she said, so she’s in Ireland so it’s like very common to have only one or two sometimes so it sounds like maybe she was already kind of like not stretching it but like with three was like. Her number. So hopefully the college best friend just never like thought of anything of it because it’s like normal, but what does suck is that that seemed like the friend that was like closest to her, like, like location wise closest to her, and she seemed most excited because she’s gonna be able to experience like asking her and her being like, yes, you know, um, So it’s like, happy on one side, she had that boundary, but then it’s like, uh, but yeah, I’m curious, like, you know, like we were saying, it’s like, it’s only gonna get worse with someone like that, because I doubt someone like that’s gonna like, learn their lesson, like, I mean, it’s good that she didn’t cave, but still, like, she’s gonna demand to be a part of certain things, or try to, if they have kids, or if they, you know, buy a house, or whatever that looks like for them, it’s like, who knows how she’s gonna, uh,

Bethy Abdissa: I, um, one thing you mentioned that I wanted to preface is like, um, the bride covering the cost for the bridesmaids is actually also in, not in America, not the weddings in America, but the weddings back home in Ethiopia and Eritrea. You as a bride and groom, you’re going to ask people to be your bridesmaids and groomsmen. You cover all their costs. So that’s something also in our culture that is normal back home. Um, and then when you come here, you’re like, ah, people don’t want to, people are like, you know, we’re in America. Now you got to do it the American way and take care of your expenses, take care of your stuff. So. You can understand why she wanted to pick that, um, I think moving forward if their boundaries is not gonna be stronger than what it was, like, even the comfort that this person has to even voice themselves like that is what scares me, right? There’s some sort of, maybe even the way that person grew up, this sister, right? The way she grew up, they’ve allowed so many things unchecked. For her to feel comfortable enough to say this to, like, an outsider, her brother’s wife. Yeah. Must have felt so comfortable saying it. She must have felt like she always gets her own way.

Christa Innis: Got her way. Mm hmm.

Bethy Abdissa: So it’s learned behavior. It’s not just something she just brought up like a one moment, right? So it’s like the family has been letting this go far enough where it got to this point. But I hope the husband, and I would want to always say this, I always say, even when I talk to my brother, even when I talk to any like grooms, I always say, if you do not draw the line, if you do not say, you know, this is the new family you’re protecting, and this is the new family you’re building, and your family, your mom, your dad, your sister, whatever, do not see that message sent, there’s always going to be an overstep.

There’s always going to be, she’s gonna have a child and the sister is gonna tell her. Oh, you shouldn’t, shouldn’t you be feeding it this way? Shouldn’t you be doing it this way? As the diapers, da da da, like the snarky comments, the, the just like an unhealthy environment where you can Both just grow together and make mistakes together and raise that child. It will always be, there’s a nagging voice outside and that part is gonna be hard. Maybe they need a, a year or two apart from this person, and I’m serious about that. Like when it comes to boundaries, I’ve gotten really strict because of all the mistakes and, uh, things I did in my past in my personal life that I’m like, you need to really like cement that into people’s minds for you to have a peaceful life.

Christa Innis: Yeah, and it’s, I feel like it’s so refreshing once you do set a boundary and you realize, hey, I’m not mean for saying no to something, like, I was just protecting blah, blah, blah. Like, even if it’s something as simple as, like, I’m not going to respond to a text after 8pm at night. I’m just not gonna do it. You know, something like that. You’re like, oh, that felt kind of good. Like, I wasn’t at just someone’s back end call. Even if it wasn’t like a very harmless text or just friendly text, you’re just like, no, I’m giving, you know, space. You kind of realize, like, okay, I’m not being mean. Like, we’re told this, like, narrative that, like, if we’re, if we say no to someone, we’re mean. And I don’t know where that comes from. If it’s a people pleaser thing or if we’re taught as, like, young girls. I don’t know what that is, but, yeah. I totally agree. Everything you’re saying, I’m like, Oh, this is so like therapeutic. Oh, good. 

Bethy Abdissa: The way I frame boundaries is like when I set boundaries with people or I set boundaries with my clients, I always say like, this is as much as it is for me as it is for you. And then you’ll be confused and say, what? This feels like you’re shutting me out, right? Like this feels like you’re drawing a line to keep me away from that line. But it’s also like you’re, I’m setting expectations that I can fulfill. It’s basically saying, like, this is what I can do. Therefore, the things that I can’t do, you figure it out on your own.

Because now I’m not enabling you anymore. Yeah. I’m not just doing the things and saying yes to every call. Now you have to maybe figure out your emotions by yourself. Now maybe you need to throw that tantrum by yourself in an empty room instead of calling me. Maybe you’ll take a breather before you take an action or take responsibility for the things that you need to do. And it doesn’t feel like good at the moment, right? When I’m setting that line, it doesn’t feel good. But most of the times I will get Like, now I, people are like, oh my god, I, I’m so proud of you for saying no to me. And I even tell it to my friends, I’m like, please say no to me. If you need to take time, instead of, you know, picking up my phone call and having a conversation, say no to me, because I will be happy that you’re spending that time taking care of yourself. That’s the type of people you want in your life where they appreciate that you, you saying no doesn’t mean rejection. It just means that they’re taking care of more things that are priority at that moment.

Christa Innis: Yes, absolutely. Yeah. And in regards to like these kind of stories where someone is constantly overstepping and showing no respect, you need to put like that firm, firm boundary and you might need to be, be a little mean back and be like, this is our boundary. We’re taking time away until you can kind of figure it out. So my whole Is that this couple was able to do that, and maybe the sister, fingers crossed, learned from it? Fingers crossed.

Bethy Abdissa: Uh, has, uh, some self awareness or, I don’t know, a shot, I don’t know, something to calm her down. Yes. So she is focused on her own life and figure out why maybe internally, you know, it’s some for some people it’s actually jealousy, you know, it’s, you just don’t know where these feelings come from. Like, it’s very weird, they show up as something else but internally they’re coming from like maybe she’s, she’s probably not fulfilled in her own life.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Bethy Abdissa: Um, and they project that feeling. So I hope she finds the healing that she needs, but I hope Emily, was it Emily, the bride’s name? Um, Emily was

Christa Innis: the sister.

Bethy Abdissa: Oh, Emily is problematic. Okay. Yeah. The, the bride and groom find their peace and yeah.

The Brother Who Never Showed Up

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah, me too. Okay, before we end here, I do, um, I like to end on confessions. So on Instagram, people send me some different Instagrams every Instagram. They sent me their confessions every week. So I’m just going to read these and we’ll just kind of react to them. First one says my brother didn’t show up to my wedding. He was giving me away. It hurts. That breaks my heart. That’s terrible. Because I’ve heard of like, no shows when it comes to like, guests or something. Which, that sucks too. But like, when it’s your own brother, we’re just talking about this. Like, and you ask them to be a big part of the wedding.

Bethy Abdissa: Ay, that’s, that sucks. I don’t, I don’t even know what to say. Like, that would, that would might, oh my god, that might really ruin my day. Like, I can’t even imagine what that would feel like.

Christa Innis: Yeah. That’s horrible. I’m really sorry. Hopefully I don’t even know how you would like fix that because you can’t give that take that

Bethy Abdissa: back Yeah,

A Fling or a Double Life? She Had a Secret 4-Year Relationship!

Christa Innis: hopefully he had a darn good excuse.

I don’t know Next one. My friend ended her eight year relationship After getting wait, my friend ended her eight year relationship after getting pregnant with her four year old long fling partner. Huh? Huh? So she was in a relationship, but then she had a four year fling during that? I’m

Bethy Abdissa: a four year. There’s no fling that’s four years. That’s a whole, that’s a, that’s a three year old baby right there. If you took like, you know what I’m saying? Like, yeah, that’s not a fling. You, you just have two relationships. Is she,

Christa Innis: like, that’s like a, an affair? Are they saying like a four year affair?

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, because, I don’t even know if that’s a fair. You just have two families. Like, and, like, I don’t know. Four years is like too long for it to be. Like, at what point, what are you doing at that point? Like, The parent, the, the father of the baby was the other one instead of the eight year one, and is that why? Or, we don’t have any context. I don’t have, that’s all I got sent. All right.

Christa Innis: Yeah, and she put friends in quotations, so I’m guessing they’re not close friends. I would guess maybe just acquaintances. That Like, when you hear those stories where, like, someone had two families and they were, like, keeping one a secret, I’m like, how? I can barely maintain a job in one family.

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, no, I, I have a terrible poker face for me to do that. Like, I, I can’t do that, but No. Yes, my question to you, actually, I don’t know if you’re comfortable responding to this one, but, like, if you had a friend who has an 8 year Threat relationship, but also has a side person for four years. Would you tell that eight year person?

Christa Innis: So am I finding out like, so like if, are they coming to me and I know they’ve been like with someone for eight years and they’re like, Hey, by the way, I’ve been with someone else for four years too. Or are they, are they telling me like in the beginning?

Bethy Abdissa: No, they just told you they’ve also had a, another relationship for four years.

Christa Innis: I guess it would depend on my relationship with this friend. Like, if it was like a really close friend, I would be like, Dude, like, what are we doing here? Like, this is not okay. Because all my, like, really close friends, like, that I see regularly, like, I would consider all their husbands or partners, like, best friends of mine, too. Yeah. Though I could never, like, Look at them and know that that was happening, um, and not say anything. But I also respect, like, each relationship to be like, I feel like you need to be the one to tell your partner. But I would kind of be like, you need to do this. And then, like, check in and be like, hey, how are, how are things going with that?

Um, I can’t say I’ve ever known of someone doing this that’s coming right off the bat. Like, or like, cheated and tried to like balance two things where I’m like, Hey, you gonna tell them? Because, um, I don’t know, maybe like college or something. I’m trying to think if there was anyone I knew of. But like,

Bethy Abdissa: no, I think it’s like, the way I see it, and maybe I’m overthinking it. Okay, tell me if I’m overthinking it. But the way I see it is like, If somebody comes to me and I know they’re in this eight year relationship and they confess about this, uh, side person for four years, this person for me is, needs to be in like, freaking CIA or something because they, like, I can never trust this person again, even for my own sake.

I think it says a lot about their characters for me. Like, regardless of whether or not they were able, let’s say even the eight year person is like really bad to them. Like for me it’s like if you haven’t spoken and you ha you haven’t really said something, um, to, to this person. I am big on loyalty. And so like, if you haven’t done that, like I can’t trust that anything I’ve done or said to you or anything that I’ve shared with you is actually even like a secret anymore. Like I don’t. Because if you betrayed somebody else like that, um, I don’t feel like my relationship is safe with you. Like, I’m very, I think things may be too extreme and that’s okay, you can tell me if I’m wrong. But like, I just feel like right away, I feel unsafe with this person and I need to dip.

Christa Innis: Yeah, so I, when I share, like, more personal stories on here, I try to be really careful so, like, if someone were listening, they wouldn’t know. But I will say, and I’ll say as generally as possible, someone that I know, like, years ago, it came out that they were, like, having an affair, and this is someone I’m not close with. It’s more, I would say, like, acquaintance, right? I could not look at the, the same. The person already knew that they were being, like, cheated on, the other person.

And it still never, I will always look at them that way. Because I’m like, you abandoned your family. Like, I don’t want to give details because obviously, whatever. I was just like so disgusted by this person’s behavior. I could not look at them the same. And I’m like a very, and I hate to be like, I’m empathetic, but like, I’m a very empathetic person. And I started crying for her because I was like, this is terrible. Like, like at the very least tell someone you’re not happy and say that, like, you know what, it’s not working instead of like crossing that line. And yeah, again, I won’t give details of this, but like, I was so upset and it was just like. Yeah.

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah. And it’s not like, you know, I think there’s like, I, I, I give people grace to a point where people make mistakes, like there’s mistakes and there’s things that are like, no, there’s a lot of thought process that happened into it. Right. Like, just like any other, any other. Um, um, what’s it called? Crime, right? There’s just a lot of intention. There’s a lot of driving. There’s a lot of thinking. There’s a lot of, oh, let me just take off my clothes. There’s just so many spaces between where you were and what happened for there, for there to be like any confusion of what your intent was. Um, I can be forgiving, but I think it’s more if you’ve kept. Um, you literally need to enlist to the CIA

Christa Innis: because

Bethy Abdissa: they need people like you.

Christa Innis: Oh yeah. I, if it, yeah, if it were like a close friend of mine, I’d be like, do I even know you? Like, what, like, what’s the, what are we doing here? Um. Especially like you would hope, I mean, she just mentions getting pregnant with this four year fling. You would hope that her and the long term one don’t have kids already because that adds a whole other layer because I’ve heard of that happening and then they just like abandon the family with kids and it’s just like, come on, like, let’s not do that. I don’t, yeah. That was a crazy one. Okay. Um, that is okay. And then the last one says, I don’t really want to be my best friends made of honor. That’s so you can you know what’s funny. Now this isn’t funny is the wrong word. I’ve seen this, not exact confession, but very similar the last few weeks, and it’s different people.

Bridesmaid Dilemmas: The Drama No One Talks About

Bethy Abdissa: Like, we

Christa Innis: literally just sent out an email this morning, and it was very similar. What’s, what are your, what’s your take on this? This person’s afraid to say it to their friend.

Bethy Abdissa: You know, like, I can tell which friend wanted to be a bridesmaid and which friend didn’t. Like, on weddings. All the time. And I’m like, why didn’t you just say no to begin with? Like it, like in the process, especially if they’re booking like a longer, like maybe a partial package or whatever, I get to meet the bridesmaids. Um, if I’m starting from the beginning of the planning process, obviously like when they’re picking them, I know the process, right. And I can tell right away. And I’m like, why didn’t you just say no? Right. Like, why didn’t you say no? Cause I know you’re about to make my life a living hell because you’re, you’re about to give me a headache, like, and I, and I can see it.

And one time there’s a story one time, uh, my business partner and I, my business partner met the bridesmaids before I did. And so I had no context of who’s who, so she met them. She just gave me a rundown and she warned me about one. I don’t know which one it is. Um, and then months down the line, the bride comes and says, Hey, by the way, um, I would need, you know, one of my bridesmaids, I already knew, like, I already knew was a problematic, like something was ringing in me. She wants to have a specific makeup artist. And that makeup artist is the same makeup artist as the bride. And that we already did the schedule. This is like, I’m talking weeks. away from the wedding. And I was like, well tough, tough luck. I was like, I’m sorry, but we can’t do anything about it. But the bride is such a, she wanted her bridesmaids to feel really welcomed and wanted to do all that.

Right. I’m like, you’re doing the most, like, uh, not only are you making your, your, your job harder now, we have to make sure that the makeup artist doesn’t have any other clients. This is two weeks before the wedding. And now I have to rearrange the entire day’s schedule because one person decided this is the only makeup artist they’re gonna go with two weeks before the wedding. It’s not like they didn’t know. And I was very the makeup artist was not happy that day. It was I could tell, like, everything was off. And the thing is, like, you really didn’t want to be here because you’re making everything hard. You’re making the whole process hard. You’re trying to make

Christa Innis: it, like, more complicated.

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, so you shouldn’t just said, Hey, I, I can’t do it. But, but because we want to say yes to everything, the people pleasing goes both ways, right? Uh, and maybe, and this is most of the time what I hear is like, Oh, she was a bridesmaid for my wedding, so I have to be a bridesmaid for her wedding. Right. Um, it’s almost like I have to return this favor, not because I want to, but because now I feel like I don’t owe her anything. Yes. You see that they’re really struggling either financially, they’re not able to, you know, do the things like some bridesmaids want to go to a different country for a wedding, wedding shower, you know, and now they’re struggling to, to pay for that and they push. And then what happens is because you have that resentment, right, you haven’t really spoken and said, Hey, I can’t do it.

Right. So you’ve been like just keeping points taking just keeping score in your heart and be like, oh, I didn’t make her do this for her for my wedding, but she’s making me do this for my wedding. And then you’re probably two, three times that you’ve already paid two, three times the cost that you, she probably paid for your wedding. And now you’re resentful. And at the end, like that relationship is just like going sideways. So it’s like, If your best friend is getting married, and I’ve told my friends, by the way, they wanted me to be their bridesmaids. And I would tell them I would be helpful if I was running the show than me being a bridesmaid because I’m a control freak. And I do not like being a bridesmaid. Like if I’m a bridesmaid, I’m going to give you a hard time. And so I’m self aware. I’m self aware. I love that. So and I’m like, I would rather be on your side in a different capacity. Then be a bridesmaid and honesty will always, always go a long way than you bending backwards to please somebody.

Christa Innis: Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree with that because I’ve definitely been a part of weddings, um, more so when I was, like, day of coordinator, but I’ve seen it as a bridesmaid as well, but where, like, a younger, one recent, not recently, I don’t know why I said recently, a few years back, I was a day of coordinator for a wedding and the groom’s, like, cousin, I think it was a cousin, But it was asked to be a bridesmaid because I think it was just family. I don’t know if the bride was like close to her at all, but everything was a chore. Everything was a hassle from like getting pictures to like we would all be like all dressed and it was like she would we would be like where’d she go and she would have like a t shirt or sweatshirt on I’d be like. No, you need to keep your dress on for photos.

Ugh. And she was like, she was a lot younger, so I don’t know if that was part of it. But she would like, be like complaining. She’s like, are we done yet? I’d be like, nope, we got a few more pictures. Okay, do you want to get your makeup done? Like, everything was like, a chore. And it was just like, you don’t have to say yes. Um, but I don’t know if that was family also like, pushing her to be in it too, so.

Bethy Abdissa: And some people just don’t have the financial capability of doing it. And that’s something that you feel weird about because, um, you don’t want to say no for, if you think about it for women, like we’re talking about a dress that maybe costs 120, 150 to 200, depending on the dress, shoes, earrings. If you’re getting extensions, makeup, we’re talking around 500 to that. Like I’m talking cheap. Cause I’ve, I’ve had brides, bridesmaids that were just, that paid 500, 600 just for their hair.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh.

Bethy Abdissa: I promise you. So like it’s a 2, 000 to 3, 000 Um expense that you’re expecting So that’s why maybe either simplify when you’re asking even like from the bride’s perspective Simplify what you’re asking your bridesmaids to do or understand their financial situation When you’re asking them to do certain things Because you have it right or because you’re ready to splurge 100 plus k on a wedding Like I said, i’m talking about weddings i’ve seen and done Uh, literally 150 on a wedding. Oh my gosh! I know, I’m like, give it to me and let me make investment properties. Let me just make investment properties. But hey, 150k on a wedding, that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean your bridesmaids have that capability of You know, supporting like a 5, 000, 6, 000 expense out of nowhere. That kind of expectation is also nice or cover the expenses to a certain level so that you, you want them to, to be comfortable to show up for you.

Christa Innis: Definitely. Yeah. No, I, I 100 percent agree with that. Definitely being aware of like what people can afford or want to afford. And also the expectation on both sides, you don’t have to say yes. But having that communication, because that’s the same with like destination weddings. If you’re invited, you don’t have to say yes. You know, there’s such a, like a boundary there. Um, but I know I’ve, I’ve kept you time. We’re a little over, but I just want to say thank you so much for coming on. It was so great. Like reconnecting, like face to face and from we’ve come a long way from sharing our little office together.

Bethy Abdissa: Oh my gosh, the 45 minute drive from Naperville, like that’s crazy for me.

I, now that I think about it, it feels like a long time ago. I’m so happy to reconnect with you and see you grow. Like I’m. Absolutely. Like so, so proud of you, what the platform you’re building. So thank you so much for having me. I really enjoyed this conversation and I hope your viewers, uh, also, um, enjoyed some of the insights that I had.

Um, yeah. I’m going to have to wear my glasses now.

Christa Innis: Yes. I love it. Um, where can everyone follow you and find all of your amazing content?

Bethy Abdissa: Yeah, so on TikTok, I go by Bethy Creates. It’s Bethy underscore creates and my business page is kbwesomevents. You can find, uh, the Instagram page also is kbwosemevents for any events in Minneapolis or the DC, Maryland, Virginia area. Um, but we also travel to, I’m actually coming to Chicago, by the way, uh, in Naperville to do a wedding in fall. So I, we also travel all over the U. S. for any of your events, um, but yeah, follow me on Bethy Creates. I do a lot of makeup and mindful conversations, um, you know, until I become a therapist for sure. Yes. That’s next, right? Yes, that’s

Christa Innis: next. There’s no limit to what you can do.

Bethy Abdissa: Absolutely.

Christa Innis: Awesome. Well, thank you so much. This was so fun.

Bethy Abdissa: Thank you so much. I appreciate it.


Hijacked Wedding: Our Best Man’s Proposal Stole the Spotlight

Imagine standing at your wedding, basking in love—only for your best man to steal the spotlight with his proposal!

That’s exactly what happened to today’s anonymous guest. In this jaw-dropping episode, Christa dives into the shocking moment that turned a dream wedding into an unexpected showdown. From the best man’s ill-timed question to the groom’s furious reaction, this story is one for the books. How do you move on when your special day is overshadowed? And what happened after the proposal?

Tune in for all the unbelievable details, wedding chaos, and lessons learned!

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

02:54 Setting the Scene: The Wedding Day Highlights

04:09 The Best Man’s Speech Takes a Wild Turn

05:34 The Proposal That Left Everyone Speechless

06:24 The Groom’s Explosive Reaction

07:59 Champagne and Chaos: The Aftermath

10:14 Wedding Guests React: Shock, Support, and Drama

11:44 How the Bride Feels About It Now

21:00 Reddit Story: Proposing at a Wedding

29:24 Exciting News and Future Plans

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • The Wedding Day Bliss – A look into the beautiful, intimate wedding before the drama unfolded.
  • When the Best Man Stole the Show – What started as a heartfelt speech turned into something unbelievable.
  • The Groom’s Furious Reaction – He didn’t hesitate—his reaction left guests shook.
  • The Bridesmaid’s Awkward Dilemma – What do you do when you’re proposed to at someone else’s wedding?
  • How It All Ended – The aftermath, the emotions, and where they all stand now.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “Your wedding day is supposed to be about you. How did it feel when it wasn’t?” – Christa Innis
  • “I just have to ask—how did your bridesmaid react? Because wow.” – Christa Innis
  • “I looked at my husband and thought—what the heck is going on?” – Anonymous Guest
  • “We paid for this wedding ourselves, and then… this happened.” – Anonymous Guest
  • “My groom wasn’t having it. He grabbed the guy by his collar and dragged him out!” – Anonymous Guest
  • “My maid of honor handed me a bottle of champagne. She knew exactly what I needed.” – Anonymous Guest
  • “Even now, I still can’t believe he thought this was okay.” – Anonymous Guest

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Blog Transcript:

Note: We use AI transcription so there may be some inaccuracies

Christa Innis: Hi there, thanks for joining me today. 

Anonymous Guest: Thank you for having me, I appreciate it.

Christa Innis: Yeah, so, um, I want to start off by reading the confession that you sent me over on Instagram. And it says, my husband’s best man proposed to his girlfriend during his best man speech. And this, like, had my jaw dropped when I read it. This was when I was just like, oh my gosh, the T is crazy today. Um, I couldn’t believe that it actually happened to someone because we hear about these stories happening. And that’s when I posted a story asking everyone to send me their opinions. And so I asked if you would want to come on and share some more details to what happened.

And we’re going to keep you anonymous. We’re going to keep the people involved anonymous. But we want to hear a real life story firsthand because people people are like, wait, This actually happened. We’re going to get into people’s responses, but first things first. How are you doing after everything is said and done? I know it’s been, been a little while, um, but how are you doing?

Anonymous Guest: I’m doing as well as can be expected. Um, our wedding anniversary is coming up very soon in April, so we’re looking forward to one year of marriage, so yay to us. Um, when this happened, we were, well, stunned as can be. Um, how do I go into words about this one?

Christa Innis: Yeah, you know what, let’s, let’s not to cut you off, let’s go to the actual day. Tell everyone what kind of happened starting off. Um, You can talk about the highs of your wedding day first if you want, and if you want to get to that point, um, and then we’ll, yeah, just kind of go from there.

Anonymous Guest: My apologies, I’m sorry.

The Unbelievable Wedding Speech Proposal

No, you’re good. My best man was giving his speech. It was a great speech to begin with. Talking about us as a couple, then going on about, like, how it’s going to be even more special. He mentioned that he wanted to make this day extra special. So, he got to my bed. One of my bridesmaids, who was also his girlfriend at the time, he got down on one knee and he proposed.

And I looked at my husband and was like, forgive me, forgive me for saying this, but what the heck is going on? And he didn’t know what was going on. And of course, the bridesmaid, my best friend, well, one of my best friends, I should say, because everyone was like What was going on? Can we pause for a second?

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

Um, he was making his best man speech. He was so very romantic to talk about our relationship, everything. He kept going around the bridesmaid and one of My best girlfriend was one of the bridesmaids and he went toward her and he got down on one knee and he proposed to her in front of all of my friends and family.

And we had a very small wedding because we paid for it ourselves. We had maybe 50, 60 guests because that’s all we could afford. And me and my new husband were utterly shocked. My husband got up, he took off his coat. He grabbed the groomsman by the neck of the collar, back of his neck, of his collar, and dragged him outside.

The best man who still had the mic in his hand yells like, wait, I didn’t get an answer. And gosh, you could hear the best man. From the outside. It’s like, hey, wait a minute. And one of the guests grabbed the mic before you could actually hear what was going on outside. He’s like, wait, wait, wait. You could hear a little bit.

It’s like, what is going on out there? You could hear some ruffling and scuffling. I still don’t know what fully went on out there. And my maid of honor, God bless her. She brought me a whole bottle of champagne. And I love her for that. I just like, do you just want a glass of it? Nope. Give me the bottle. Give me the bottle.

Christa Innis: Wait. So, okay. So when he first got down on his knee, so I’m assuming, did you guys have like one of those head tables where everyone’s up front? Like sitting like bridesmaids and groomsmen. So did he get in front of that bridesmaid and get on his knee? And did it click for you right away?

Like that’s what’s happening? Or you’re like, what is he doing?

Anonymous Guest: Yes, and I only had one maid of honor and one bridesmaid, so I only had two people in my wedding party. So my maid of honor and a bridesmaid, so it was kind of even more awkward. So I had two party because that’s all we could afford.

Christa Innis: Yeah,

Messy Return to the Reception

Anonymous Guest: so so just a small party because I it’s just me my husband and my daughter and my daughter is Three and a half years old.

She is my light and This well now ex best friend Well ex friend I should say I keep calling her my best friend Because she felt like a best friend to me at that. That’s where I put her in my wedding party I wouldn’t want someone I knew that well in my wedding party And just like, why on that day, they came back in the park into the party.

He, his hair was messed up. His shirt was unbuttoned. Um, pants were Little ripped and this was a rental suit. What?

Christa Innis: Wait, so after your husband brought him out of the room into the hall was the bridesmaid just sitting there Or was she did she go out there too?

Anonymous Guest: Um, she was just sitting there. She had the ring on her finger So he put the ring on her

Christa Innis: finger before he got pulled out

Anonymous Guest: Uh huh.

Christa Innis: But she didn’t say yes at that point yet? No. No. Was she like, was she

Anonymous Guest: like waiting for something to happen? I, I still don’t know. I think she was going to say yes, even though they’ve only been dating for like three and a half months. Wait, really?

Christa Innis: Only three and a half months? And he thought the best time to do it was at his best friend’s wedding?

Pretty much. Yeah. So, and the other thing is too, it’s like, it’s your friends and family. It’s an intimate small wedding. It’s not a huge wedding where he’s already family. So his family and friends are there. They’re now expecting your family and friends to celebrate them.

Anonymous Guest: Exactly. Exactly. So I’m just like, what’s going on?

And I’m like, My best, my maid of honor is trying to calm me down. Like he came back to his seat. I asked him what is going on. It’s like, don’t worry. I took care of it. I’m like, what do you mean? You took care of it. It’s like don’t worry about it and I couldn’t figure it out like what do you mean you took care of it?

It’s like don’t worry about it for the rest of the night and I kept trying to figure out what he meant Until later on in the night and I noticed um his shoes he broke He broke his shoes, um, his rental shoes. He didn’t have the soles of his shoes on, he broke his shoes. And I noticed the back of his head, um, you know how the button ears have on the shirts?

The button ears on the shirt? Um, he broke part of his shirt on the button ear shirt. And on the back of his jacket, um, he broke the jacket. He ripped the jacket in half. So that’s why you didn’t have the jacket. So the groomsman had to pay for the jacket. Like, he tore his whole wedding suit apart. The groomsman ripped his jacket?

No, the, the, my husband ripped the jacket. He tore his entire wedding suit apart. When he pulled him outside? Yeah, he beat him up pretty much. Oh my gosh. I know he’s had his best charges, truthfully. So. Whoa.

Christa Innis: If he’s crazy. So then he comes back in with your husband and they act like, he acts like nothing happens.

He still goes up to his now fiance. She says yes, jumps up and down, right? Of course.

“This Is My Engagement Party Now!”

Anonymous Guest: My maid of honor told her to sit, to sit down. Like, this isn’t your day not to celebrate. Yeah. It’s like, do not make this day about you. It’s like, but this is my engagement par engagement party now. She thought we should make this day about her as well.

She said this is my engagement party now? Yes. What?! Yeah, it’s like, we should make this day about me as well.

Christa Innis: That is bonkers! Oh my gosh.

Anonymous Guest: Wow. I made a Yeah.

Christa Innis: That’s the thing, like, so I forgot to mention to everyone is that this, I made it into a skit, and so many people were like, oh, it’s not that bad, blah blah blah blah blah.

No, this is bad. This is really bad because not only did they not ask for permission, they, it was a small intimate wedding. They took that from you. You paid for it all yourselves. You invited people that you were like, these are close friends. We, people we love and we trust. And then on top of that, then they want to turn it into their own engagement party, completely negating any feelings you had about the whole situation.

Anonymous Guest: Correct. It was. And I was in tears. My maid of honor took me to the bathroom to, uh, dry my tears. Because we had like maybe 50, 60 guests. I rented my wedding dress because I couldn’t afford a wedding dress. And I know that’s stupid to say, but I wanted something, something I could have. So I bought like a little, I borrowed a wedding dress for the ceremony and bought a little party dress.

Mm hmm. For the reception, just a cute little something I got from the store. So, silly, my friend’s like, you should just spend money, but it’s like, you’re a single family. You don’t need the luxury things. Mm hmm. So, why not? So, I spent like maybe 200 on my dress, and my friend made the cupcakes for free. Mm hmm.

So. So. So. dried my tears. We came back. I came back out and she was gonna do her maid of honor speech. They were out there with our photographer doing photos. around, showing off the engagement ring, all this wonderful stuff, like, we’re engaged. They’re in front of the

Christa Innis: photographers getting photos taken?

Yeah. Okay, so I need to know, I know I’m kind of jumping the gun, but did they try to get those photos from you?

Anonymous Guest: My photographer wouldn’t release them.

Christa Innis: Wouldn’t?

Anonymous Guest: They wouldn’t. Oh, good, good. I mean, sure, that’s the one thing, because my photographer was also one of my friends, so she did my photography for like 150 for me.

Amazing. And she’s also my daughter’s grand godmother, so that helps the situation. Yes. Yay! For deals. You find the deals where you can get them. Absolutely. Take advantage of it, what you can find. And I was like, don’t do this today. So we all sat down, back to saying my maid of honor did her little speech and made fun of the situation, like made little jokes about him on the side that only he would get.

And it kind of irritated him. Irritated him a little bit. Like, you shouldn’t be saying these things about me. And just like, made little jokes. And then she knew my daughter was here. Well, was here. Was there. So, she grabbed my daughter from her little seat. Cause we made like a little kiddie table on the side.

For her to be part of the wedding party.

Christa Innis: So like

Anonymous Guest: a little kiddie table with like a princess, princess crown, everything like that. So she, and she came out, they did a little dance, they worked on together and it was just such a cute addition to the party. I love that. Like, and that just really made my day.

You

Christa Innis: need a maid of honor like that. That’s going to be like, hold on, let me take care of this. Exactly.

Anonymous Guest: And people, like, what’s with the, what’s with the little dance? The dance was perfect. What’s made it even better, like, she was dancing with my daughter. Daughter. I can’t talk today. I’m so sorry.

You’re okay. You’re good. She was dancing with my daughter and she had a glass of champagne and my bridesmaid’s little dresses they were just cheap little dresses they were like a purplish color and she went over to my other bridesmaid and she accidentally slipped and it fell on the dress it’s like oops and it was a little champagne it’s like oops sorry this slipped it’s like you ruined my dress it wasn’t on accident

Christa Innis: Yeah, I’m surprised, um, your bridesmaid stayed after that so she was like proudly walking around with that new ring and Acting like this was not her engagement party She had no shame about how it all went down Thought it was totally fine the way he did that after only dating for three and a half months.

I can’t even get over that To take that moment from you guys. Did you have any idea of? Like he was going to do this or anything I got feeling no, so you’re completely blindsided

Anonymous Guest: No, oh my

Christa Innis: god,

Anonymous Guest: the champagne. We just got for our little table. Everything else was just like Beer and little stuff you can get from the store.

That’s the one thing I splurged a little bit because I just wanted to think for me to celebrate.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Anonymous Guest: So, so

Family Reactions to the Proposal

Christa Innis: where does everything like, okay, let’s talk about really quickly. How did your family and other guests that were there react? Did anyone say anything to you or did they make faces? Did they try to like move past it?

Like what went on with that?

Anonymous Guest: Well, on both sides of our family, um, both of our parents are gone. Okay, so my uncle, uncle’s aunt, they were really upset to say that. Yeah. Cousin, she wanted to teach him a new one. Let’s put it that way. And she does CrossFit on the side, so she could deadlift him in a second and throw him over something, a bridge.

She’s like, I know people. I can put a hit on here if you want me to. It’s like, please don’t do that. It’s like, I love you, but please don’t do that. It’s like, but this is your day. Please don’t put a hit on somebody. It’s like, but it’d be fun. It’s like, we’re not going to put a hit on somebody. Oh gosh, I love you, but please don’t, but it’s just like, it’s just, it’s thought that they cared about me and they stayed for the entire reception.

They left. It’s like, and at the end of the night, he’s like, can we get a ride with you guys? I’m like, no. It’s like, please know we’re going home with our family and going to enjoy a family night together.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

The Aftermath: No Apology, No Awareness

Anonymous Guest: It’s like, go do your own thing, please. Okay. And the next. Oh, I’m sorry. Go ahead. Um, next morning they said, you guys do want to go get brunch?

They wanted to go get brunch.

Christa Innis: So they had no idea still that they did something wrong. They were just living in their own la la land. Pretty

Anonymous Guest: much,

Christa Innis: yeah.

Anonymous Guest: What?

Christa Innis: After how

Anonymous Guest: you guys reacted? Yeah, they wanted to go get brunch. They want to go still go mini golfing, do everything that we have planned for next day.

Christa Innis: Without, did they apologize once?

Anonymous Guest: No.

Christa Innis: Not even for the timing? The timing wasn’t right.

Anonymous Guest: No, I’m still getting messages from her on other platforms, like, still, like, what’s going on, everything like that. Oh

Christa Innis: my gosh. So, how does your relationship stand with them today? I know you said ex friend. Does your husband talk to his friend?

Cause that’s really hard. I mean, that was his best man. That’s your bridesmaid. She’s asking you, like, what’s going on? Has there been any communication?

Anonymous Guest: On my side with her, no. He’s trying to open that wound back up. Cause this was his friend since 6th grade. Okay, your husband’s

Christa Innis: trying to open it back up?

Anonymous Guest: Okay. So he’s trying. I’m like, if you do, keep me out of it. Okay. Keep my child out of it.

Christa Innis: Cause what happens when they invite you guys to the wedding?

Anonymous Guest: They’re actually already married.

Christa Innis: Oh! They already got married.

Anonymous Guest: They got married on New Year’s Eve and they are expecting.

Christa Innis: Okay. Okay. So were you at the wedding or did they do a private?

Anonymous Guest: You were like, I’m not going close. So,

Christa Innis: okay. Okay. So no invite. They probably didn’t want to invite anybody because they were gonna afraid that karma was gonna get

Anonymous Guest: them in the back.

Audience Reactions: Outrage and Shock

Christa Innis: Oh My god Okay, so like I said earlier, I think I said this before I started recording but when this story when he first sent me this story I Opened it up to the audience to my followers to kind of said like their reactions So I want to read a few of these reactions and this was probably the most Responded to thing that I ever ever got I put a little question box people could submit things I would say I probably had like Over a hundred, 200 responses from people.

So these are their responses. I said, what would you do in this situation? Someone said, I would want my husband to address the best man, not make me be the bad guy. Someone said shocked and angry, not well. My anger issues could not. I would not be happy. I’m not a big spotlight person, but let the bride and groom have their day.

This person, who seems like an odd, odd response here, says overjoyed. I believe in sharing love as long as the girlfriend wanted a public proposal. I am so, no, don’t do that. If you want a public proposal, find a different spot. Um, This person says I’d wait until the initial hullabaloo was over, hullabaloo was over, and then ask them to leave.

Um, did you think about asking them to leave?

Anonymous Guest: Oh, I should, I should have asked them to leave, but I only had, um, What, if I had more of a wedding party? I probably would’ve, but, mate, I probably should’ve looked back. I probably should’ve had them leave. Just have my maid of honor and best man. Well, I didn’t have my best man.

Was, I just have the groomsman.

Christa Innis: Yeah,

Anonymous Guest: my groomsman was like, I want no part of this.

Christa Innis: I know it’s almost like like hearing story I’m like, okay like we can we can say he’s like super naive and did that but to then be a Trailing around using your photographer acting like it’s their engagement party Like that’s someone that literally wants to steal the spotlight from someone else.

They have like crept up jealousy or Anger or something where they want to make you feel bad. So I read that as just completely disrespectful. Um, okay. I’m going to read a couple more. It says my face wouldn’t say anything at the moment, but my, but later I would sure be asking them to leave. I would turn off the mic, ask them to leave.

I’d probably be too shocked to react. This person says a swift, a swift punch to the throat. It wasn’t, it would be an option. Um. It said, if they ran it by us first, maybe, but other than that, why, or other than that, that’s a big hell no. So I would say most people agree that that’s completely disrespectful and wrong.

There’s random people in there that are like, I wouldn’t make a big deal of it, but you didn’t make a big deal about it. You had a normal reaction to something that was kind of crazy. And like I said, If he was just kind of naive and maybe like, snuck off to the side and they did it where no one saw them and didn’t make a big deal.

Okay, that’s still not great, but it’s better, but the fact that they did it during a speech where everyone can see at a small intimate wedding and then parade around trying to get like private photos and all that and showing the ring off, it’s just terrible.

Anonymous Guest: Yeah, it’s one for the books. I always pictured my wedding as a peaceful day, relaxing, nothing like this.

Yeah. You know what? Once in a lifetime, it’s something I’ll always remember.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that’s true. How are, how are you today with everything? Like looking back on your memories, are you able to highlight the positive memories, like your amazing maid of honor, the amazing, like, uh, I know you talked about your daughter being involved in the wedding, so those are some really amazing moments to look back on and kind of block out the negativity.

Right.

Anonymous Guest: Oh, my daughter’s my lifesaver. My daughter and my husband are my godspens. That’s all I can say. They are my saving graces and I love them. Hm, my daughter more right now, but hey. I love my daughter more right now, but hey. Everyone has a favorite in the household. Yeah, yeah, I get that. And my maid of honor will always be my best friend for saving me that day.

I love that. And I think when all this happened, I was probably numb from shock. I probably was angry inside. Yep. I’m not gonna lie, I was probably angry. I just didn’t know how to react. Yeah, definitely.

Christa Innis: Well, I think so. Yeah. And I think here too is like, people hear these stories and they’re like, Oh my gosh, like weddings bring out the worst in people. But to kind of do a little spin on this, I think it can bring the best out in other people. So you saw a side of your maid of honor, like, wow, she really loves me, protects me and supports me. My husband immediately got behind my back, stood up against him, you know, like all these amazing people in your life.

Um, and it’s really unfortunate that happened this way, but True colors come out and it’s it’s a it’s sometimes a good thing that it reveals the true colors of people because you’re like You know what? I’m not gonna have someone like that in my life

Anonymous Guest: Exactly. Exactly. And I can’t wait to be my maid of honor’s maid of honor in her wedding in October.

So yeah. So since getting married in October, I can’t wait to do that job and hopefully we won’t have the same reaction.

Christa Innis: Exactly. Yeah. And you’ll know exactly what to do to make sure she stays relaxed and excited on her day and block out all the negativity.

Anonymous Guest: Negativity. Yeah. I just got to get to New York.

That’s the only place I got to get to. Exactly. And my daughter is the flower girl. So perfect. Perfect.

Christa Innis: Amazing. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I know it’s like a hard story to like come back to and talk about, but like I said, I hope you’re able to like pull positives out it that you have amazing people that support you and love you.

And, um, thanks for sharing.

Anonymous Guest: Oh, no worries. Hope this helps other people in this situation.

Christa Innis: Yeah, absolutely.

Anonymous Guest: All right. Thank you so much. I do appreciate it.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Thank you.


Bridesmaid Demotions, SIL Drama & Tough Boundaries with my MOH!

What happens when your vision for the perfect wedding collides with reality?

In this episode, I sit down with my best friend and matron of honor, Ivette, for a candid and hilarious conversation about the highs and lows of wedding planning.

From juggling family expectations to incorporating meaningful cultural traditions, Ivette shares how she navigated the chaos of planning her wedding while staying true to her values. We also dive into some of the wildest wedding hot takes submitted by listeners—prepare for strong opinions and unfiltered reactions!

Whether you’re a bride-to-be, a bridesmaid, or just love a good wedding story, this episode is packed with relatable moments, laughs, and real talk about what truly matters on the big day.

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

02:40 Wedding Memories and Friendship

06:55 Wedding Planning Stress and Traditions

11:21 Hot Takes and Wedding Drama

28:37 Wedding Planning Chaos Begins

29:13 Bridesmaid Drama Unfolds

31:44 Family Tensions and Wedding Demands

43:58 The Wedding and Aftermath

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • The Reality of Wedding Planning – Ivette opens up about the stress of balancing her dream wedding with family pressures.
  • Bringing Culture Into the Celebration – How Ivette honored her heritage through unique wedding traditions.
  • Hosting a Full House – The chaos (and comedy) of accommodating 11 guests in a tiny apartment.
  • Wedding Hot Takes – Christa and Ivette react to bold listener opinions on cash bars, unplugged ceremonies, and more.
  • The Bridesmaid Selection Dilemma – Do brides really choose bridesmaids based on skills and aesthetics?
  • Setting Boundaries in Wedding Planning – Ivette’s take on standing firm against outside expectations.
  • What Really Matters on the Big Day – The moments that made Ivette’s wedding truly unforgettable.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  • “Weddings are supposed to be about love, but somehow, they always bring out the drama.” – Christa Innis
  • “Your wedding is YOURS—no one else’s opinion should dictate your day.” – Christa Innis
  • “Bridesmaids should be chosen based on friendship, not just talent or aesthetics.” – Christa Innis
  • “A wedding guest list is not a free-for-all. Boundaries exist for a reason!” – Christa Innis
  • “At the end of the day, no one remembers the little details—only how they felt celebrating with you.” – Christa Innis
  • “I wanted my wedding to reflect who I was, not just what looked good on Instagram.” – Ivette
  • “Family is important, but you can’t let their expectations take over your wedding.” – Ivette
  • “The stress of planning is real, but the love and support of your people make it worth it.” – Ivette
  • “Bridesmaids should stand beside you in life, not just in photos.” – Ivette

About Ivette

Ivette is a mommy, a wife, and a psychotherapist in training. She loves girl talk and giving unsolicited advice. She’s all about conversations that matter because she believes people matter. She was also Christa’s Maid of Honor in her wedding.

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Blog Transcript:

Note: We use AI transcription so there may be some inaccuracies

Christa Innis: All right. I’m so excited for the episode today. And I wanted things to be a little less formal because I have one of my very best friends, Ivette here, who just so happened to also be the matron of honor in my wedding. And so I thought it would be more of just like it. A fun hangout session because we’re busy moms and this is how we hang out these days on zoom call.

Ivette: and I knew that we were going to do this and I was like, we need to have a drink because we just need to relax, enjoy ourselves and have fun.

Christa Innis: Seriously, I know. I feel like we actually need to just start scheduling these because it’s just so hard to get together with everyone’s schedules and the kids.

It’s just like, right now, both our kids or all our kids, I should say are in bed because that’s just like perfect time to just. Exactly.

Ivette: Yes.

Christa Innis: What are you drinking today, Ivette? Margarita.

Ivette: It’s my go to. You can never go wrong with tequila. You make a

Christa Innis: good margarita. I know and I’m like, that sounds so good.

I’m drinking some wine. this is not sponsored but a brand sent me this. It’s called Grazi wines, right? And it’s really delicious. It’s a rose. It’s a rose. Yeah. It’s like no sugar added, but it’s a boxed wine. I don’t know. That really sounds like it’s sponsored. I swear to God it’s not sponsored. but anyways, cheers.

Cheers to hanging out. All 

Ivette: right, let’s get into it. Virtual hangout reminds me of our COVID hangouts.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. It’s so funny you said that because I was just looking at pictures because I was like, Oh, I want to do a little post that I’m going to have you on the podcast. And I was like, Oh my gosh, 2020 we had like weekly virtual, like game nights.

Yeah. It, like, changed everything.

Ivette: I know. Thank God that you, like, would set that up with not just us, but other people, because I was just going stir crazy.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Same. was mostly Zach. Like, he’d be like, we need to, like, call people. And then once that started, we’d be like, yeah, let’s, like, get this going.

So I feel like we would call you guys. We’d call, like, my cousin in Texas. Like, we had, like, a little group going, and it was so great to connect with people because it was like, you couldn’t go anywhere.

Ivette: I’m like Zach’s sister was on too and like we were all just hanging out. Yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Ivette: Good times.

Christa Innis: Yeah, we needed that. Oh my gosh, I’m so glad you said that. Like, bring me back. Someone posted something about 2020 Today and they’re like, isn’t that crazy to think that was half a decade ago? And I was like, no.

Ivette: That’s wild.

Christa Innis: I feel like so much has happened since then, but the same time that feels like yesterday.

Ivette: Yeah, same, but also so many lifetimes ago, you’re right.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I feel like that’s just how life goes now. Alright, before we get too far into it, can you just tell everyone a little bit about you and like, what you do? You’re like, oh my gosh, pressure. yeah. I mean, I feel like there’s like, there’s so much to know, and, but just Okay, so I thought about this,

Ivette: and Okay, I’m going to start it like this.

So for those of you that don’t know me, no, I, I’m joking. for Christa’s wedding, I was like, that was how I started my speech. I said, you know, I asked my husband for all this advice on how to start my speech. And he’s like, whatever you do, don’t start it with for those of you that don’t know me.

And so I did that. but yeah, I mean, I met Christa through my husband, who’s actually her husband’s friend. And he was the Best man in their wedding. And then Zach was the best man in our wedding. but yeah, I’m currently a mom of two. I’m a grad student about to graduate in eight weeks. and yeah, I think I’m a really authentic, real person.

. I like to be vulnerable and get to know people and so I’m not really good with surface level conversations. I like to get deep and get to know people. So

Christa Innis: yeah are that person that like we I feel like that’s when we like started connecting is when we’re like Oh, we love these one on one conversations Like we would just get lost in conversations like it didn’t matter what was going on around us

Ivette: Yeah,

Christa Innis: and we would like it literally went from like us Knowing each other to very like very service level, knowing each other to like in distance.

Like we’d be like, oh, okay. Hi Eva. Hi Christa. And then all of sudden we’re like, bam. Like we’d be texting all the time when we see each other. We’d be like these deep conversations. And then it was just, the rest

Ivette: is, like, I felt like you were my partner in crime for like a good amount of time before the babies came.

Like for sure.

Christa Innis: Yes.

Ivette: And like, yeah.

Christa Innis: I feel like those last few years before. Like COVID, and then like, obviously doing our virtual calls a lot during 2020. Those years, like, really, like, brought us together, I feel like, and now, like, we were just saying, now it’s been, like, years. I mean, because I, probably first met you when Zach and I first got together, which was 11 years ago now, which is crazy.

Or almost, going on

Ivette: 11, going on 12, I don’t know. Yes. I will, I still remember the day that I met you. Like, I will always remember the day that I met you. Which is so weird, because I tell people that. I’m like, isn’t it so crazy? I think I’ve told you this before. Like, it’s crazy to think that you always meet, like, you always remember, like, the important people in your life.

Like, I remember meeting you. I remember meeting Matt. I remember meeting, like, some of my other best friends. And, like, anyone else, it’s like, I don’t really remember. But I, like, Remember like what people are wearing and so yeah,

Christa Innis: yeah, like those vivid moments that stick in your mind Yeah, no, that’s funny.

LikeI don’t know. feel like the same way I was just looking back at like Wedding photos too when I was like picking out stuff and I was like, oh my gosh like even that like for my wedding I feel so long ago And yeah, just all the craziness since then okay, before I get too, like, blabby because Y makes me chat a lot, so I’m gonna slurp.

Ivette: Not going to lie. I may have had like a tiny little shot to keep up.

Christa Innis: Hey girl, this is moms after dark. I mean, I know when this episode comes out, I’ll come out in the morning. But if you guys, if you’re listening and you don’t listen to it till later have a glass of wine with us, have a margarita with us, drink a choice of coffee, you know, what have you just run like let loose and hang out a little bit.

so Let’s get into crazy stories and some wedding hot takes, but I kind of want to switch it up a little bit, like Talking about your own wedding. I know I don’t like saying Oh throw people under the bus. No, I’m not saying that I’m talking about your own wedding. Like what was like the planning experience for you?

like I know you were really stressed during your wedding planning and that was like A lot. You kind of, you talked about having a lot on your plate at that time. So like, what’s something like unforgettable about your own wedding experience that you kind of just like held on to? like good, you were saying?

I brought up the stress, but like, yeah, like what kind of like was your planning like? And then like looking back, you’re like memories that you held onto about it.

Building a Wedding with Purpose

Ivette: So, yeah, I think planning was really stressful because I really wanted to, like, stick to my values and be like, okay, this is what I want, this is what I like, but also, like, more importantly, I wanted to build a foundation for my marriage, and I wanted the people that I feel like helped Change my life for the better or we’re like really important into like my pivotal story of like this is who we’ve at Was this is who I am now I am like proud to be this person this woman entering into marriage And I want those people to like stand beside me not just to come to my wedding but to be like listen I support you through any season in your marriage, right?

That’s super important to me And so I think I was stressed out because so many of those people Don’t live in our state. They live in other countries. They live in the U. S. But maybe they live on the West Coast, right? or even the East Coast. So for me, it was really stressful to get everyone together at the same time and make sure that they were, like, taken care of.

Like I could take care of them the way that they’ve taken care of me, so I think that’s, that was really, like stressful and then of course, you remember, like, we had our apartment in Chicago and I think there was like 11 people staying at our place, like, we had a one bedroom apartment in Chicago and it was like body after body after body, like just anyone sleep anywhere, you know, like during our wedding season, so that was intense.

Um, like the

Christa Innis: epitome of Ivette, like you, I remember specifically, there was like one moment in all the craziness where it was just you and me like in your apartment and you were like Really worried about like pleasing everyone around you and I was like just take a breather It’s your wedding. You should enjoy and you’re like but Christa There’s people from everywhere and we like to have a moment.

I was just taking it like it’s okay But you’re like you were hosting so many people and I like when you say it that way, too. It’s like people are flying from another country or from another side of the country And so you put a lot of pressure on yourself.

It’s very normal.

Ivette: Yeah and then I think the biggest takeaway is like, I am bilingual. I speak Spanish and English and I wanted every single person at my wedding to feel like they were seen and like. understand like, Oh, this is a part of me. Like, so just being very true and then very true to myself.

And then also like, it’s so sweet when you get to have, like, I’m sure you remember your wedding, like every single person that has ever like, meant anything to you. Like that’s like the sweetest thing in the world. And so I think that’s just like the biggest takeaway. I’m like, can we renew our vows just so that all these, you know, our favorite people are together again.

Cause That’s so special. Yeah,

Christa Innis: one of my favorite things about your wedding as like a guest was all the like Cultural and traditional things you kind of like brought in together and just made it your own Like there are certain things that you guys did that I’d never seen at weddings before which I was like, this is so fun This is so cool.

Like, can you explain some of the things that you guys did at your wedding? Like was like the bridge thing, right?

Ivette: oh, oh, yeah, so there’s just like Mexican traditions that we wanted to incorporate into our wedding, and we just, it’s just been passed down through generations, and I really don’t really, I don’t know what they mean, I was just like, oh, I’ve seen this done time after time, and I don’t know what the meaning is, but it’s important to, like, follow those traditions, and, be true to my roots kind of thing, and so, um,

Christa Innis: Oh, I love that.

That was like one thing I couldn’t stop talking about. I was like, it was so beautiful and unique to like you and your story. And I thought that was just like, it was really cool.

Ivette: Yeah, you’re talking about the, it’s called La Vibra de la Mar, which is like, everyone lines up and hold hands and you like, the groom is, Um, and he’s standing either like on a chair or being held by his groomsman and then the bride’s on the other side and then he’s like holding up her veil and everyone’s like running like through the gas, like holding hands, like really, really fast and then the music speeds up.

You keep running faster and faster and people are tripping or losing their shoes or falling over everywhere. And so, yeah, yeah, it’s a really fun tradition that we do. And there’s a couple of dances that we do as well, like country style dances that we do, line dances.

And so, yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that’s

Ivette: awesome.

Christa Innis: I love that. All right, let’s get into some hot takes. So these are opinions, some very strong that people send me on Instagram. We’re just gonna react to them together, and just give me your first reactions. Okay, first one is, all lettings should be unplugged.

Ivette: Oh, okay, this is hard. Okay, I agree. I agree, but being a mom, I’m like, oh, that’s hard. Like, have your phone for, like, emergencies. But I don’t need people, like, taking pictures or recording, because, like, I paid for a photographer and a videographer, and I want you to, like, enjoy the moment. You know, yes.

Christa Innis: yeah, I don’t see unplugged as like, we’re gonna have you turn in your phone and lock it in a box, heard of like very extreme, you know, places doing that. But yeah, like, turn your phone off and make sure like, you know how to turn it on silent. Or like to vibrate because I can’t tell you the number of weddings I’ve been to where there’s signs literally and people announce it and you still see people with their iPad or their phone and I’m like, no, don’t do it.

Ivette: Yeah. That’s so much worse. I do hate that. yeah, I just, be present. I’m all about being present.

Christa Innis: Yes. Yeah. And chances are as good as the iPhone photos are, the photographer is still going to be 10 times better. Okay, next one says if you are going to have a cash bar, just don’t even have one.

Ivette: Oh, like the gas bill? No, no, no, no, no. No, like they’re your guests. This is like your event. It’s not like you’re doing like, I don’t know, backyard barbecue. No. Oh, like, I feel like you should, pay for the guests or

Christa Innis: something

Ivette: like

Christa Innis: that. So this person says that if you’re planning on having a cash bar, you might as well just not even have one because I think they’re like agreeing.

You should have a bar like an open bar.

Ivette: Yeah, 100%.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I agree I was just telling a story so sorry to people listening if I just told us on a podcast episode Or if it’s coming out soon, but I was at a wedding once where it was open until like 8 p. m. But they didn’t tell anyone. They switched it.

So I remember Zach and I going up to the bar and he ordered drinks and the lady was like, 10 bucks or 15 bucks. And he’s like, Oh, I thought it was open. And they’re like, Oh, it’s switched to cash at eight. And they didn’t announce it or anything. And yeah. Was I at this wedding with you? Cause I feel like I’ve been to this too.

Like I don’t think so. So when Zach and I first started dating years ago. Oh, okay. Those poor people listening are like, oops. No, they want to be listening.

Ivette: Okay. I feel like I’ve been to a wedding like that too, but I feel like I knew that was going to happen. They’re like, okay, like, open bars, closed.

Now it’s like, you know. Yeah. Poor kind of thing.

Christa Innis: My thing is too, it’s like, There’s different levels for what you can afford, obviously. And so I’ve been to all kinds where there’s like, I’ve never, I don’t think I’ve ever been to a hundred percent cash bar. I think I’ve been to ones that are just wine and beer.

And I think that’s great. if only in your budget, you can fit wine and beer and. Like seltzers or like, some kind of pop drinks or whatever non alcoholic. I think that’s great. I do think there should be some kind of beverage that’s offered. That’s Yeah,

I don’t know what I get and there’s also different levels of how formal someone wants their wedding, I get it sometimes that that’s the vibe But yeah, I’m all for I knew I wanted that was like something in my budget I was like, I want an open bar.

Ivette: Yeah, if you’re like getting married at the Drake In downtown Chicago and you’re like having people pay for their drinks. That’s a problem. But like if you know, you’re more conservative and like, Not as wild with your money, then it makes sense. Like, okay, we’re gonna just have like the basic stuff and that I

Christa Innis: totally agree with but Yeah.

Okay. This last one says some bridesmaids are only chosen for their talents or aesthetic. Is this a saying or drink?

Ivette: Yes. Yeah, I didn’t choose bridesmaids because of this, but I have friends who I feel like may have been chosen for this reason. And it’s like, they have the skills, the equipment, that kind of thing. Mm hmm. Yeah.

Crafty or Convenient? The Truth About Bridesmaid Selection

Christa Innis: I feel like I’d be really careful what I say sometimes.

There have been times I’ve felt in the past where I was chosen because I’m very crafty. I’m a crafty girl. I love my crafts. You give me a project. I will. I won’t. ever do like a C minus job. I will do that A plus job. I will give extra effort. And so there’s been a time or two that I was a bridesmaid that I was like, should I have been a bridesmaid?

I don’t know. And it all was great. It was great. But, I think just sometimes you have to really think about down the line or even at that time, like who you want by your side. Not for what they can offer you, but like your relationship to them. i feel like it’s complicated because everyone looks at it differently.

But I don’t know, it’s, I’ve also heard of people, and this is not anyone I know personally, just through stories that people have sent me, it’s just like, they’ll be asked to be in a wedding, and they’re kind of like, they kind of ask themselves, like, why am I a part of this? Like, you don’t even try to be my friend outside of the wedding planning.

so I’ve seen that happen a lot, where they’re more questioning, like, do you just want someone by your side? Whereas

Ivette: I’ve actually had that happen to me before. Yeah, where, Okay. It was like my partner. It was like clear that they were meant to be in the wedding and this person asked me to be in the wedding and it was like, are you sure?

Like, we were both kind of like, why would she ask? Like, it was just really strange. And, you know, of course I said yes. but yeah, it just didn’t fit well. And then of course our friendship isn’t. Yeah.

Christa Innis: I know that’s interesting how that works with, like, it’s almost like a precursor maybe.

Ivette: It’s like, he has 10 people, I have 8 friends, I need 2 more people.

Christa Innis: I need to add somebody. Yes. Yeah. No, I totally see that. Yeah, that’s interesting how that works when you kind of look back and you’re like, Okay, maybe that’s why. I will say, the majority of the times that I was a bridesmaid, it was like, I kind of had expected it. That being said, like, if you were asked today, or do you feel like, I feel like most of your friends are married or, like, committed, like, do you feel like at this point you would be in any other weddings?

Or if someone were to ask you, do you feel like you’re better at saying no if it wasn’t the right fit?

Ivette: I think, okay, so I have a few friends and family members who are still going to get married and I know for a fact that I would say yes. I would have to find a really good excuse for someone who is like a little bit more than a friend kind of thing because that’s just who I am.

It’s like, I’ve always told people like if you mean something, if we’ve had like a relationship in my life, Life like I will never forget you like I will have your back You can call me like 10 years later if we’ve lost touch, you know that kind of thing So I’m just a sucker that way So I want to say like because I’m a mom and I’m busy now and like work stuff Like I would it would be easier for me to say no at the same time I am a people pleaser a little bit which I’m working on.

Christa Innis: So I had to beg you to say no to me, even like when you were doing stuff for my wedding. I remember you had so much going on, just different things that would come up. And I’d be like, Ivette, it’s okay if you can’t come to the bachelorette party. It’s okay if you can’t do this. Like I was like, you’re like, I’m going to be there.

And I was like. Okay, but like, I know the pressure’s not coming from me. Oh, no. No. But I know, it’s hard, because there are people like that, and you put an expectation on yourself. I’m the exact same way when I’m a part of the wedding. okay. I warned you before we got on, but I have a story for this week, and it’s a little long, so I want to jump right in.

if we haven’t been chatting for like, I don’t even know what time I got on. 20 minutes? I don’t feel free to stop me at any point. This week’s story submission. I only saw the beginning and then we’re just gonna go from there. Okay, it says, phew, this may be petty, but this story needs to be told.

My sister in law, let’s call her Lizzie, was a narcissistic Nightmare of a Bride, and she and my brother don’t speak to my family anymore because of her insane wedding drama. Not exaggerating, they have now not spoken to me in over two years and claim to have cut me out of their lives fully and forever with no explanation.

I’m sure you’ll think I’m the crazy one because of that, but hear me out. Let me first say I will not think you’re the crazy one because I, especially through receiving all these stories. There are three sides to every story, and I’m sure you know this in your line of work, like, you can only, like, hear so much and just absorb, you know, what you’re being told, right?

I mean, I don’t want to read into things, but yeah.

Ivette: I’m also such, like, a devil’s advocate, though, so I’m always like, well, we’ll What about this or what about that? I’m like, you know, yeah, sorry to whoever said this, but yes, I am. I’m here to listen I mean, I

Christa Innis: agree with you though, too. I feel like when I first started sharing stories, people would get like, I shouldn’t say people for the most part, people like the stories, but everyone’s gonna be like, you only talk about mother in laws.

How about you talk about mother of the bride? And I was like, well, yeah, Fun fact mother in law could be of the bride or the groom, but okay, and they were just getting offended and I was like well, I try to say stories about all kinds of people related to the story, but I just, the most, most of the stories I get just happen to be from brides.

so now I try to look at it in a lens of like, okay, what are the other details I’m getting? Because sometimes I read a story, I’m like, oh, that’s not, not the best. Not the best looking, but okay. she says I’m the oldest of three siblings. My sister, Cassie is in the middle. These are all fake names.

my brother, Max is the youngest. My brother, Max, and his now wife, Lizzie started dating in college. They’re young in their mid twenties at this point and started talking about getting married in 2020 and planning their wedding before they got engaged, which I thought was a bit weird, but whatever, no harm, no foul until My sister Cassie fell in love with her now husband, oh, Alex, the same year, 2020.

My sister Cassie and her man Alex are in their mid 30s, so they’re older and ready to start their lives together, buy a house, and start a family. They get engaged in the spring of 2021 and tell our whole family they’re planning to get married in a year, March 2022. Yay! We’re so excited for them. Or so I thought.

The Engagement Jealousy That Started It All

Christa Innis Okay. The next thing I know, I get a call from my younger brother, Max, who is not engaged to Lizzie at this point. They’re still just dating, but he’s upset. He tells me Lizzie has been inconsolable, crying and depressed in bed for three days because my sister got engaged first.

Oh my gosh.

Ivette: Yeah.

This is hard. This is hard. That sucks. Sorry. Like, why would that mean anything to you? Yes. Like this, you should be happy. You should be happy for them. Like, that is a really big red flag if you’re like, Uh, I didn’t get engaged first. Like, what about me? Like, I’ve paid my time. No, like, these people are happy.

They’re older. you don’t know if they want to have kids, right? Like, you don’t know what their plan is. Maybe they’re more financially established. You don’t really know. So I feel like if you’re looking forward to getting married and being a part of someone’s family, you should be happy when they reach their milestones too.

And when, The siblings get engaged. Like, why would you make it about yourself?

Christa Innis: I know. Especially because they’re not even engaged at this point. Like, and even if they were, like, us and we’re engaged at the same time. Like, I don’t get the competitive, like, back and forth. Like, that was a similar story I just shared about a girl, like, demanded to be engaged before her, they were dating brothers.

Demand to be engaged before her. And this was like a true story. Someone sent me and it’s just like, I just don’t get that.

Ivette: my sister in law and her husband now they have been dating forever. You actually went to high school with them. But my husband and I, Matt, we actually got engaged before them and.

She asked me like, is it okay if we get married, whatever date, like, which was before our wedding. And I was like, yeah, of course. Like, I really don’t care. Like, I’m happy for you. Like, what can I do to help you? You know? And it was so fun to be in the process together and be like, Oh, look at your ring, look at my ring.

And. What are you doing with this? And, oh, I might bounce that idea off of you, and, oh, that’s good for you, but I don’t like that style, and it was so fun to be a part of each other’s wedding, so.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that’s what people, I don’t get, because it’s like, then you have a fun, like, unit of, like, your family’s growing, like, now you have a sister, and, like, you know, you have someone you can call up, and, like, it’s the same with, like, When a mother in law gets angry or brother in law, whatever.

It’s like you’re just causing more of a barrier like wouldn’t you want I guess people that think like that don’t think down the line like We’re not gonna get along. I don’t know.

Ivette: Right? Oh, yeah, so I can really play devil’s advocate here

Christa Innis: Yeah, but the girl that Wrote this in is on their side

okay. So, and it was their wedding. Oh, and took their wedding year. She said, yes, the reader took their wedding year. I’m like, hang on, Max. What do you mean? It took your wedding year. You’re not even engaged yet. He says, well, we wanted to get married in 2022. And now Cassie is going to steal our thunder because she’s getting married before us.

I’m like, but you’re not even engaged yet, Max. That’s what I like. I had like two of my really good friends, two of my best friends got married the same year as me. And I was like, that’s so fun. Cause I’m thinking like 10, 20 years down the line, we’re the same anniversary year. Like let’s go on an anniversary trip.

Like, that’s the way I think.

Yeah. And you’re like going through all the seasons together. Like it just makes it so much more fun. Like a big party, I mean, I hear of two people getting mad too about pregnancies and stuff and I’m like, I love that. Like, yeah, that’s a thing. That is a thing.

I got a story where a girl was kicked out of the wedding because she announced her pregnancy and they were like, I don’t want you announcing stuff. Well, I mean, people are insane.

Ivette: Oh my goodness. They

Christa Innis: thought the pregnancy would take away too much attention from the bride. I was like If you really care about those people, you’d be celebrating them.

You’d be like, how can I make the day better for you? Because you’re pregnant at my wedding. I was

Ivette: I was pregnant at your wedding.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I was like, I had two pregnant bridesmaids and I thought it was so fun. And it’s so fun to look back at pictures and be like, Oh, like, I don’t know, just looking back at those memories.

Yeah. And then we get to like go through this chapter together with our kids, like.

Ivette: Mm hmm. Imagine like me being kicked out of the wedding because I was pregnant.

Christa Innis: I’m like, I, like what?

Ivette: Yeah, no. That

Christa Innis: needs to be researched in a deep way. I don’t know a laboratory somewhere where people think that way.

I’ll be part of my next psych research. Yes very niche I know she says I’m like, but you’re not even engaged yet max You haven’t proposed. You can’t expect our sister, who’s older than you, to put her life on hold because you guys called the wedding year 2022. It’s not like calling a shotgun.

He’s super hurt by me saying this, and said it’s important that you understand our hurt over this. I’ll be honest, I did not mince words, and maybe that was a mistake, but I said, I love you, but this is crazy. You’re an adult. Please be happy for a sister and stop making this about you. I think that’s pretty nice.

Yeah,

Ivette: and I’m honestly so shocked that this guy, like, bought into his girlfriend’s whatever she has going on, like, in her mind, this, like, game that she’s playing. Like, for you Just sit there and be like, no, my girlfriend’s right, like who you’ve been dating for, I don’t know, a couple years and you’ve known your sister your whole life.

Christa Innis: It’s like, really? Like, I don’t know. yeah, that’s just like a big red flag for me. Nope. Yeah, you wonder what manipulation is going on behind the scenes. What’s

Ivette: Gaslighting there for sure.

Christa Innis: Yes, like, oh, your family is terrible. Like, I’m no expert. I don’t know this stuff just from like seeing stories.

I’m like, if a person you’re dating is pulling you away from your family instead of like celebrating them, that’s It’s a red flag. that’s kind of like textbook, isn’t that? Yeah. Yeah.

Ivette: That’s not good.

Christa Innis: when you and Lizzie get engaged and married, we will be just as excited for you, she says.

For the next four months, my brother, Max, and his still girlfriend, Lizzie, proceed to have lengthy talks with my parents and us about how hurt they are about my sister’s engagement. Oh my gosh. And wedding planning. They say they do not feel cared for or validated in their pain. Cue gagging noises, she says.

Oh, it’s terrible. It’s just, they’re, I mean, and I hate to be like, oh, like, she said they’re 20s and then the older sister’s 30, so I don’t know, like, if that means, like, 23, 24. But they just, they sound very, like, they need to, like, live a little life. But I mean that someone in their 40s could act like that.

So I don’t really want to play the age game, but it just sounds very odd to just not all of a sudden not be happy for your sister because you’re supposed to get engaged first.

Ivette: Yeah, absolutely. And then still not being engaged and still complaining about it. Like it’s my wedding year, but you’re not even engaged still.

That makes no sense. Absolutely. It’s like,

Christa Innis: Okay, I’m going to read into it before we read a little bit further, but it’s almost like the brother doesn’t actually want to get engaged. The younger brother, right? So instead of like, the pressure being put on him, he’s going to turn it on his family and be like, Oh, can you believe that?

Well, now they’re taking your thunder, so I can’t. Because don’t you think if this happened and he really wanted to get engaged and married first, he would just propose?

Ivette: Yeah, he would have proposed like right away. And then set a wedding date before that. And then like beat them to the, yeah, I was just gonna say that.

And then like beat them to the, wedding date. Like. And said they’re just over here crying about it

Christa Innis: and not doing anything.

Ivette: he’s kind of a coward too.

Christa Innis: I think it’s. Him kind of pushing his feet in the sand or whatever the phrase is.

Ivette: No, it’s not that he’s being a coward. He’s like, I know the red flags and this is just giving me time.

Bridesmaid to ‘Special Guest’ in One Email

Christa Innis: Yes. Let’s direct it toward the anger towards my family and not me. Yes. That’s just the vibe I’m getting. My brother, Max, finally proposes to Lizzie in the fall of 2021, and they start planning their wedding for September 2022, six months after my sister’s wedding will take place.

 Okay. For a while, everything is copacetic. I hope I’m pronouncing that right. And then Lizzie starts sending lengthy wedding planning emails that are insane. She starts off with me and my sisters as bridesmaids.

After that, I would not want to be her bridesmaid. Talking about, I don’t know. I guess it’s hard because it’s like you want to just like move forward. And so you’re probably your baby brother. So you’re like, let’s just make things work. But you know, things are going to be. Not great. Mm hmm. but pretty quickly, oh, pretty quickly demotes us to special guests.

Ivette: Oh my gosh, no. That

Christa Innis: might be the kindest thing she’s ever done for me, she says. She wants us to attend a bachelorette weekend, a wedding shower, an engagement party weekend, and the wedding. All separate weekends and all flying out. That’s a lot. That’s terrible.

Ivette: That is. Yes. For her to first be like, yeah, I want you to be a bridesmaid.

Like where, in your timeline of like being a part of this family, do you see that being a good thing? Do you see them saying, yes, I would’ve, that I would’ve been like, no. , no. and then to be demoted, like to demote them? I can’t believe that. I can’t believe that. Like, how do you even have that conversation with them?

You’re

Christa Innis: a special guest now, so you just get like a badge or something. Like, what does that mean? But yet, she still wants them to attend four different things and fly out for all of them.

Ivette: Still come, still pay for everything, still make me the center of attention.

Christa Innis: Yes. Oh my gosh, and she’s probably that kind of bride, like, even if you have like a white speck on your dress, she’s like, change.

Don’t have any white anywhere near you.

Ivette: You can’t have white shoes. No way. You can’t. I don’t even know if you’re like dresses poofier than hers. You’re out. You’re out.

Christa Innis: I was just telling someone how my cousin Jasmine, how when we were out at the bachelorette party, she had a shirt that had like white flowers on it.

And she was like, I won’t wear it. I’m so sorry. And I was like, Jasmine, you can wear that. I literally, you could literally put a white shirt on right now. What? I was there. I know. I didn’t know if you were like, during that conversation, but I was just like, Oh yeah.

Ivette: Yeah. I think we were all like looking at ourselves in the mirror and then she like noticed it.

And then that’s when you guys had like, Oh, that’s,

Christa Innis: yeah. Right

Ivette: before we were leaving.

Christa Innis: I don’t care.

Ivette: you could tell her like her whole outfit could be white and it would be fine.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I was like, I would have been like, yeah, we’re both the brides. I literally don’t care. I’m just happy everyone’s here. And I’m like, and I’m someone too, where it’s like, I, to multiple people, I was like, don’t feel like you have to come to everything or any of it.

Obviously, the wedding’s the most important. So if you can’t make it to a shower or bachelorette, I’m fine. Like, Two or three people couldn’t come to the bachelorette. And I was like, that’s totally fine. Like, people that were in the wedding. And it was like, we moved on. We did our own thing. It was all good.

Like, to put pressure That’s the thing is like, everyone’s different. But like, to put pressure on people. Like, you have to come. Spend all this money. And That’s where people get stressed out. And I’m like, I’m more excited about people just being by my side at the wedding. That was the biggest thing for me. 

She says, okay. I’m like, girl, again, I love you, but I don’t have the money to fly out for four separate events. I can come to two of these. Plus, my sister’s getting married too, so I’ve got her bachelorette and wedding, remember? Which kind of would take precedence, would think. Yikes. Shouldn’t have mentioned that.

We immediately start getting lectured. Lizzie tells us, we told everyone that your sister’s wedding would steal our thunder and look, see, we can’t have the wedding we want because of your sister’s wedding. But it’s like, either way, you are asking people to fly out to four events. Like, that is insane.

Ivette: Yeah.

And then for, I just can’t believe that she’s like, see, like, it’s taking away from my wedding. Like, it’s Get over yourself. I’m over this girl. I’m over her. I’m over

Christa Innis: her. It’s so, like, this is why there’s the name Bridezilla, because of this bride, and I hate that because, like, so many times it’s, like, a nice bride that just has a boundary, and it’s like, okay. 

No, she’s not a bridezilla, but this is like, no, like everyone bowed down to me. It’s my year. I own the whole year. And it’s like, no, that’s not how it works.  

Ivette: No, I’m out. I don’t like her. Yeah.

Christa Innis: And also to like be in the mind of the bride who’s already having issues, you know, with everything. why would you want the sisters to be at your bachelorette party if you don’t like them so much?

Where’s that?

Ivette: Yes. That perspective. Perfect. Like, yeah. It’s like, they’re doing you a favor. Like, by getting married around the same time. It’s like, thank you, yes, perfect.

Christa Innis: Yeah, so you can be with your friends. And I just, I don’t get it. okay, it says, Lizzie and Max continue to rag us about this.

Including the week of my sister’s wedding. With long, ridiculous emails about how they feel abandoned by the family. Because not everyone can attend every single one of their expensive destination events. I wish I was joking and I wish I could copy verbatim the email they sent to my immediate family five days before my sister got married about their hurt feelings.

Also not to mention they’re getting married six months after the other sister. That’s plenty of time to then focus on them, right? Like it’s not like they’re getting married the week after.

Ivette: Literally start sending save the dates right after the wedding. Yeah. Like, yeah, shouldn’t even overlap at all.

Christa Innis: No, that’s plenty of time away from each other.

They’re literally, can you imagine demanding someone to pay attention to you the whole year? Like, this is my year, nothing else can happen.

Ivette: yeah, I don’t, have friends like that, thank God. I don’t think I could be friends with someone like that. No,

Christa Innis: no. It makes me wonder, I mean, how, maybe she only has the sisters.

Because she doesn’t have friends. Yeah, I don’t know. That’s rough. she said they even requested that my sister not speak about her wedding at any of their wedding events. I feel the need to insert here that my sister Cassie is very down to earth, unfussy, lovely and intelligent college professor.

She is not a diva. She never makes things about herself. Or makes herself the center of attention. So the fact that they even felt upstaged by her is truly a masterclass in security. This girl should be a writer. I love this like image. I was going to say that like, she’s so insecure. I think it’s probably too.

It’s like the fact, like the way she just described her older sister, the younger girlfriend or now fiance sounds very. intimidated, almost. Like, oh, they’ve got, like, their stuff together, she’s intelligent, but it’s like Maybe you can just like look up to her. Maybe pick apart a couple like things that you want to like Yes I just I don’t my sister Cassie lovely husband Alex have a beautifulheartfelt budget friendly for Wedding in March of 2022 family and friends attend our Midwest cousins who all have kids are able to attend because the wedding is driving distance for them and my sister thoughtfully planned it over their kids school break my brother Max and Lizzie sleep late miss their first flight so they don’t even make it in time for the rehearsal dinner weird weird how that happened something I now wonder about did they really sleep through their alarms or was it just a stunt to pull the focus Probably.

He,

Ivette: like, wakes

Christa Innis: up, like, changes

Ivette: the alarm, like, on their phone.

Christa Innis: Yes! Oh my gosh. I have no idea. They probably, like, purposely, like, planned a later flight or something.

Ivette: 100%. I think she did it. I don’t think the brother did it. I think she was like, Oh, babe, like, I looked at the flights, they don’t have any more.

It’s just, like, we have to go to the later one.

Hijacking the Honeymoon with Drama

Christa Innis: Mm hmm. It makes you wonder like someone that’s acting like this and like he’s so easily manipulated Or she might make up stories to tell him like, oh, this is what they said to me This is what they did to me and just like victim mode. Oh my gosh. This could be like a whole series After the wedding my sister and alex go to their honeymoon to europe While in Europe on their honeymoon, Lizzie and Max start texting their complaints and grievances about who is not attending their pre wedding events to the family group chat again.

I text them privately and say, hey, it’d be cool if you let our sister enjoy her honeymoon for a minute. If you have issues, please text the rest of us directly, but leave them out of this. Spoiler alert. They don’t block. I’d be blocking. I’d be like, I’m on my honeymoon.

Ivette: Yeah,

Christa Innis: by the way, like

Ivette: Like, maybe through pictures, but like, I’m not, I suck at answering text messages and phone calls.

So my honeymoon, it’s like, Ivette’s dead. She’s gone. You were like, you weren’t even

Christa Innis: thinking about that.

Ivette: No, absolutely not.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I don’t even remember texting anybody on my honeymoon. I feel like we left our phones in the hotel room because we were at a resort. Sorry.

Ivette: I think like, we actually never went on a honeymoon.

We went on a trip. But our trip. that sounds like a bridezilla thing, like, a bridezilla thing, a thing of bridezilla. I don’t

Christa Innis: even know, I don’t know, shut up.

Ivette: I think I only use it for pictures, I don’t even know if I had service. So it’s like, I don’t know.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I would be blocking if someone just kept bugging me I’d be like I need to be in this oasis away from all that And good on this I don’t know whatever the OPS whoever like sent in this story like good on you You’re being a great like Boundary holder for your family.

That’s a lot of responsibility, but I’m proud of you for like stepping in Lizzie makes the next six months hell for my email inbox. She sends detailed look books and dress code guidelines for her engagement party weekend, micromanaging everyone’s travel plans, setting detailed schedules down to the minute for every single pre wedding event.

And giving main character syndrome, I’d say, a whole new meaning. She also continued to complain about how they feel abandoned and unloved by my extended family from the Midwest, who have been invited to their engagement party weekend, but cannot attend. I’m sorry, I would not be flying to an engagement party.

I just

Ivette: want it. And also the fact that you are sending, like, dress codes and lookbooks to the engagement party? Like, it’s not even the wedding.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Like, that’s a lot for a wedding, but that I can understand a little bit more. But an engagement party, you’re going to tell people what to wear, so they have to go out to a store, pay more money.

the engagement party weekend is at a small beach resort town. It’s expensive to fly to and the kids all have school. My sister’s wedding was over their spring break.

I try to explain to my brother and Lizzie saying, hey, the side of the family has kids. They’re not rich and they genuinely cannot afford to come to the event. It’s a multi day event that would put their kids out of school. You’re talking thousands of dollars just in plane tickets, not to mention hotel rooms.

You didn’t even invite them to your wedding. Just invited them to this and they Can’t afford to come. Like the kids. Yeah, they invited the parents and kids, the engagement party, but didn’t invite the kids to the wedding. So, she says, don’t take it personally, you just really didn’t plan this with them in mind.

Telling my brother and Lizzie this truth was clearly a mistake. Lizzie sent our whole family a text saying that it was unfortunate that our family didn’t support or care about them enough to show up. At this point, I really started to feel ill over the fact that my brother was marrying this girl.

It’s just a red flag after red flag. I’m beginning to feel like a prop, because the other thing I haven’t mentioned, she’s becoming a wedding content creator during all of this.

Ivette: Oh my god, I want to know who it is! Oh my gosh, this is bad. We can’t share this!

Christa Innis: Hey, the girl submitted it and you’re all like, I would, maybe share it. She goes, yep, you are that right. She quits her job at a consulting firm to work full time as a content creator and decides that her wedding is the best way to start. We are the props for her perfect Instagram wedding. At this point, I’m hating every minute of her wedding BS, but I’m also trying to keep a relationship intact with my brother because I love him and I’m also like blink twice if you need help.

You know,

Ivette: oh my gosh, this just put everything into like a whole different perspective like it makes sense like everything needs to be extravagant because the pictures need to look perfect because it needs to be filtered. So that you get more followers and I’m not saying every content creator is this way, but this person sounds like this is what they’re doing right yeah

Christa Innis: totally 100 percent terrible.

The Plus One Power Play

Ivette: Two months before the wedding, my plus one is revoked. Lizzie and my brother feel like I’ve defended my sister too much and taken her side during all the wedding drama.

Christa Innis: They want to punish me. My plus one is my boyfriend of a year and a half, and we already bought plane tickets. They can’t do that. I’d be like, I’m not coming anymore. That, yeah. It’s not like, oh, behave and you get a plus one. If you don’t behave, you take it. That’s not how plus ones work. I call my brother and say, Hey, we already bought plane tickets and got an Airbnb.

It’s incredibly cold and rude to disinvite my partner.said that he and Lizzie now feel as if I’m trying to upstage their wedding by bringing my boyfriend! This cannot be real! And they don’t want me making a big deal about it. Oh, they don’t want me making a big deal about their, about, oh my gosh.

Okay, at this point, I’m like, F it. I say to my brother, My boyfriend is going to come with me the weekend. If he’s not invited to the wedding, that’s up to you. You can exclude him. It’s in New York City, so he can find something fun to do on his own. My brother says, If you bring him to New York City, I will consider that as an attempt to draw attention from us on our wedding weekend.

Oh, come. These people are insane. I don’t,

Ivette: I don’t like him. I just, I can’t. I don’t. I would

Christa Innis: not be going.

Ivette: No, I would go. I would go to New York City. I would do all the fun tourist things. I would maybe like, oh, that’s your wedding. Oh, hey. And then just like keep going about my stuff. But yeah, no, I would go enjoy New York City.

I would not want to be a part of that wedding at all. At all.

Boundaries vs. Bridezilla

Christa Innis: I see you wouldn’t go to the wedding. Oh, no. I would go to New York. Yeah. Hundred percent. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would go to New York. Mm-hmm . Or I’d go to the wedding and like I’d say this, but I would never do this. I’m like, think of something like petty, like wear the wrong color or something.

I wouldn’t do that for all white . Walk in a ball. A ball gown. Ball gown. Yeah. No, I’m like, too, like I just wouldn’t, I can’t do confrontation. I wouldn’t be there. I say, well, we’re not cancelling his flight. He wants to spend time with me and our family, so he will come and he’ll spend time with us outside of the wedding.

You’re the one who disinvited him at the last minute in an effort to punish me. One month before the wedding, I get an email from Lizzie telling me that she needs me to get my hair and makeup professionally done. She’s not a bridesmaid. You can’t make someone do that. She tells me what color to paint my nails, what type of shoes I should wear, and what type of jewelry she expects me to wear.

I respond by telling her politely and a firm boundary. I say, You’ve given us wedding dress code. I will show up looking lovely and appropriately dressed to your big day. You don’t need to tell me what type of specific jewelry to wear or how to paint my nails. I to do my own hair and makeup as I cannot afford to pay a hair and makeup artist of your choosing on top of all the travel expenses.

Thank you.

Ivette: She’s not even in. She was demoted. How dare you? 

Christa Innis: And I’m one for two, where like, even if you are a bridesmaid, give them the option. Like, never You give them

Ivette: options. Yeah. This is who’s doing the hair, this is who’s doing the makeup. If you want to, sure. If you don’t, that’s fine too. You

Christa Innis: feel more comfortable doing it yourself, that’s fine. I don’t care.

Ivette: This is the company, these are the dresses, or this is the color. These are the 10 different styles that they have. Whatever you want on your body, that’s what you choose. Like, you did that for us. Yeah. And, like, this person wants you to do this, this, this, this, this. Like, it has to be that or you’re out. Of what?

Of being a guest of honor?

Christa Innis: Yeah, I don’t even know what that means. This is like, honestly, the craziest story I’ve ever read. Every week I’m like, oh, this is the craziest I’ve ever read. I think this is honestly the most insane. Alright, we got two little paragraphs left. Well, that was the last I ever heard from her.

I went to the wedding with my family and without my partner. The food sucked. The venue was ridiculously expensive. She yelled at guests for accidentally walking into the venue too early while they were taking photos. My brother looks like a hostage. Yeah. My mom cried during the vows, but not because she was happy.

My dad talked to the father of the bride and learned that Lizzie had spent triple of the wedding budget. Yikes. She got all the Instagram footage and TikTok dances and pictures she could ever want in order to launch her career as a wedding content creator. There it is. She cared more about the outer, which I feel like people get caught up in so much.

It was like, they get more into the outer appearance of what everyone’s going to think about their wedding. Less about your marriage, the future celebrating with your family and friends. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. one of her best friends. And bridesmaids don’t even speak anymore. She asked people to pull out their phones during the ceremony and take selfies for social media.

She blocked me on instagram after the wedding because I didn’t post about the wedding and I haven’t heard from her or my brother in two years. This is gonna be sad. My brother used to make Be my best friend. I’m confused and heartbroken and worried about what his life will be like.

Sometimes I peep on their account from my other Instagram where I’m not blocked. I see her keeping up appearances and to be quite honest, she’s building an empire as a wedding content creator. Oh my gosh. To her credit, she works her butt off, but I know that every beautiful highlight reel posted to Instagram has its own dark story underneath.

That’s it. Imagine you and this girl have like partnered up. She’s been on the podcast. Oh my. Oh my gosh, that is so sad. That’s really sad, and that’s the thing with social media too, is like, you never know what’s actually going on behind the scenes when people are Posting all this aesthetic. I mean, you hear about influencers, like renting out jets.

So it looks like they have a private jet just to

Ivette: sit I’ve heard that too. Or like people being accused for that

Christa Innis: is a better

Ivette: way to put it.

Christa Innis: Cause we don’t really know. I guess I don’t really know. Right. And it’s just like, that’s just the whole appearances thing. Cause I mean, it’s just like, I guess if that’s your brand.

Ivette: Yeah. I think like in a day where like you can filter everything, you can like, Be like in your basement and make it look like you’re at some expensive resort somewhere right like people really crave like authenticity and like realness and, like talking about like harder stuff and it’s like, that’s why I don’t even post anymore.

Like, it used to be so fun to post on social media, but it’s like. I think I’ve told you this, like, I’ve struggled because it’s like, why am I posting this highlight of my life when it’s not all, rainbows and sunshine, you know, like most of my days are like crappy kind of, or like I’m busy or I’m tired and yeah, so.

Yeah,

Christa Innis: I know, I totally relate to that because like I, obviously I post on social. But I don’t post a lot of personal stuff because I feel like if I, and we talked about this too, it’s like if I’m looking for that like craving of someone to like applaud my life or to applaud something personally, then I’m lacking somewhere else or I feel like I need something like, you know, or sometime with myself or I don’t know, it’s just like, I’m the same because I used to like, I mean, Facebook days, I used to post all the time in college.

Like, you’d go out for a night and you’d post all 25 pictures. And then it just got to a point where it’s like, who am I posting that for? like, I love to entertain with content now, but it’s like, if I’m just, like, at home, Or I’m out. I’m not. I just don’t post about that stuff.

I think some people get caught up in this where they like start seeing people engage and they’re like, I have to keep it up. But like, that’s stressful. It’s also stressful to keep up appearances like that.

Ivette: I was just gonna say like, she spent triple the budget. And now like There’s an expectation of like, oh, like this is the kind of like space that you are in.

These are the kind of things that you purchase. So like every picture has to either be like that or up it or it’s not entertaining. You know what I mean? But when you’re posting like about your work, like your work is like the center of attention. That’s different, right? And so.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I feel like some of the, my favorite people to follow, like you were saying, they’re so authentic.

Like, oh, I’m trying to think of her last name. What’s her name? Jen. I can’t think of her last name. Elise Meyers is one that I follow who’s so authentic in her story and how she talks and shares, she’ll just be like in her room and just talk about her workday. Jen, who’s a labor nurse. I cannot think of her last name.

It’s gonna kill me. But, um, yes, I sent her stuff. Um, but she to like, she’ll be like hair up in a bun. And she’s like, This is my life right now. I’m like with my chickens and it’s just like very like Normal stuff and like not like I have chickens, but you know I mean like it’s just she doesn’t try to put on this facade of like my glamorous life Like everyone’s life has aspects that are glamorous or nicer but yeah, I think it’s like it’s so easy to get caught up in that and just I don’t know I feel really bad for this girl because it sounds like I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m sure we all can think of someone that’s been into, in a relationship like that where you’re like, he or she is like lost because they’re so enamored in what’s going on with their partner and they’ve turned away from their family. 

Ivette: And I’m thinking to like imagine hard it is like when you’re in a relationship with someone and you’re like, oh, I want to leave or whatever, but then it’s like, oh, what is this person going to think? What is this person going to think? But now it’s like, it’s not just your friends and family. It’s like all of your followers.

All of your business, like not to say that that’s where they’re at, because like, we hope that that’s not the case. Right. But, if everything is based off of appearances, like it’s to be that much harder to change, walk away, be true to yourself, you know, so

Christa Innis: yeah, that was a rough one. That was really, thanks for this girl for sharing it.

I feel like it was probably therapeutic for her to type it all out. I hear that a lot from people. They’re like, I’ve held all this in and so me being able to type it like helped me feel better. So I can’t imagine though, like just having your brother just not speak to you or your family because of their partner.

So.

Ivette: even hearing the story though, I feel like. She did things the right way, like, she was very, like, composed, very mature, and I love the way she spoke about her sister. It was so beautiful. You know what I mean? I feel like her heart is at the

Christa Innis: right place. A hundred percent. Yeah, she did a great job, like, setting the boundary, not letting this girl walk all over them.

Right. and it also goes to show, too, there’s no pleasing people like this, because I think a lot of times people think, like, especially as people pleasers, we think, like, Oh, if I just do this for them, then they’ll understand If I say, okay, then they’ll be fine. And it’s like, no, once you let them tread over you, they’ll keep going.

Yeah. Yeah. So it’s like her with even her boundaries, it was not okay. Cause probably she’s never been told no before. Right. Yeah. Good for her. Yeah. Props to her. well, that was a long story, but thanks Frank. we need to do this more often because it’s kind of fun just to like. Hang out and like have a glass of wine because we never get to do this.

I loved it. Thanks for having me. Thanks for doing this with me. Yeah. so before you go, is there any last parting advice or anything you’re working on that you’re excited about?

Ivette: I’m almost done with grad school. I have like eight weeks left and I’m so excited because it’s meaning that we can actually hang out. We can, my schedule is not going to be booked and maybe the next time if we do this, it’ll be in person.

Christa Innis: Yes. That was our goal for everyone like listening. That was our goal to do in person and I got like, I feel like our schedules are not like It was just hard.

And also we were like, wait, three more weeks have passed. We got to figure this out. And I recorded my closet as of now. And I’m like, how would we do in person? I guess we can go in the living room. We got to find a space. And then I was just naked in that closet.

Ivette: We could just

Christa Innis: squeeze in here. We probably could. We’ve sat in weirder places together. Yes. It would

Ivette: be fine. Normal. Yes. All right. Awesome. Well, thanks for having me. Thank you.


Vegas Vows, MIL Meltdown, and Uninvited Guests with Saron Olkaba

What happens when a mother-in-law hijacks your wedding and makes it all about her? Absolute mayhem. 

This week on Here Comes the Drama, we dive into one of the most outrageous MIL meltdowns ever. From insisting on a 500-guest wedding to uninviting the bride from a wedding dinner, this story is a rollercoaster of entitlement, manipulation, and jaw-dropping audacity.

Saron Olkaba, a pop culture commentator, reality TV aficionado, and queen of hot takes joins Christa for a brutally honest take on wedding chaos, pop culture madness, and why cash bars should be banned. They’re spilling all the drama—from surprise proposals gone horribly wrong to the great debate on whether kids should even be at weddings.

Trust us, you don’t want to miss this one. If you love wedding scandals, unfiltered opinions, and stories that will make you gasp, this episode is for you!

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Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction 

01:13 Pop Culture and Reality TV Talk

05:15 Wedding Hot Takes and Trends

14:43 Crazy Wedding Stories

19:25 Wedding Drama Unfolds

19:59 Mother-in-Law’s Overbearing Behavior

21:57 The Wedding Day Chaos

25:15 Post-Wedding Reflections and Confessions

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • A bride shares how her MIL tried to double the guest list, uninvited her from a wedding dinner, and threw a fit over boundaries.
  • Should you ever make guests pay for drinks?
  • Should we retire the bouquet and garter toss tradition? 
  • A best man ambushes a wedding toast with a proposal—without asking the couple!
  • Kids at weddings: Are they cute guests or chaotic distractions? 
  • When the groom actually attended a wedding-related event that excluded his bride… 
  • MIL’s final meltdown: Blocking, crying, and dramatic exits—this wedding story escalates to a shocking ending.
  • Will the couple cut ties for good? Should this bride run before it’s too late?

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

  •  ”If you can’t be away from your kids, just don’t come, it’s fine.” – Saron Olkaba
  •  ”Some hills are not worth dying on and others are. You just have to trust your gut.” – Saron Olkaba
  • “Cash bars, certainly, never, it’s never okay under any circumstance. That’s a huge problem.” – Saron Olkaba
  • “Be creative. You don’t have to shove yourself into this box.” – Saron Olkaba
  • “ Let’s not surprise a bride and groom on their wedding day.” – Christa Innis

About Saron

Saron Olkaba is a pop culture content creator known for her sharp commentary on celebrity news, reality TV, and trending topics. By blending humor, insight, and real talk, she delivers engaging takes on everything from viral scandals to entertainment industry moments. 

With a background in political consulting, Saron brings a unique perspective to the digital space, proving that smart women can love pop culture too. 

You can find her sharing the latest buzz on TikTok and Instagram (@saronthings), and stay tuned for her upcoming YouTube series featuring deep dives into the hottest topics in media.

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Note: We use AI transcription so there may be some inaccuracies

Christa Innis: Well, hello. Thank you for coming on. 

Saron Olkaba: Thank you for having me. I’m thrilled to be here. 

Christa Innis: I’m so excited. I was saying before we started, I feel like I know you from watching, all your videos and your hot takes. I mean, you talk a lot about things in the media, I mean, right now it’s like Justin Valdoni and, I was gonna say Serena Van Der Woodsen.

Oh my gosh, aging. I haven’t watched Gossip Girl in so long. Blake Lively, totally a brain fart right there. 

Saron Olkaba: Could not even think of the thing that people say about her, is that she plays the same person in every character she plays. So, like, Serena Van Der Woodsen and Blake Lively, kind of interchangeable.

Christa Innis: It’s fine. I do get a lot of news from you. I’m like, okay, when I see your video, I’m like, okay, I need to see what’s going on in the news. TikTok brings us all the good stuff we want to hear about.

Can you just tell everyone a little bit about yourself, what you do? and then we’ll kind of get into these crazy hot takes.

Getting to Know Saron Olkaba

Saron Olkaba: Yeah. So I make pop culture content on Instagram and TikTok. It’s content about like the zeitgeist things that are going on in the media, celebrity gossip. I think that, like most of my viewers and followers, are women. And I like to think that women contain multitudes, right? Like, I’m a political consultant in my nine to five day job, but, I also am obsessed with all things pop culture, and, you, Bravo and similar things. So I like to say that smart women Love this kind of sh*t as well. So I like to take it from a kind of Look at these things kind of from a higher level. I like to be fact based, but I also like to talk sh*t So it’s a fun little community.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I love it. I feel like it’s just a great Real Housewives, that kind of stuff, it’s great to just turn your head off, do your mind off, and just, watch some trash TV.

I haven’t watched Real Housewives in so long, like, that kind, but I was a big, like, New Jersey girl all the way. Loved watching it. So good. 

Saron Olkaba: You have to, if you’re gonna watch the Housewives, Salt Lake City. Just watch that one. I urge you. To watch Salt Lake City. There are only five seasons. It’s immaculate. It’s horrifying. It’s. incredible, just please.

Christa Innis: Okay. I didn’t even know there was one. So I got to jump back in. I kind of like to hop around when it comes to reality TV. I was in bachelor nation for a little while. I wasn’t in it. I watched it.

Saron Olkaba: I missed

Christa Innis: Oh, yeah. No, definitely not. and then I would watch Bachelor in Paradise and I was like, I don’t know.

It’s all the same. Like I can’t get into it. So I like reality more. Like what’s going to happen is who’s going to fight with who? Right stuff. 

Saron Olkaba: Yeah, I really got into The Bachelor because I feel like none of the couples really make it. So we’re just doing the same thing over again. We know how it is, they’re going to, they might be with each other for a little bit and then they break up or there’s two happy endings and 30 seasons. So, yes.

Christa Innis: Yeah. And it’s funny. I don’t know if you saw,, and by the time this comes out, this will probably be old news, but. Alex Cooper interviewed, I don’t even know if you know who Rachel Kirkholm is. Yeah, and they were one of the couples I was like, they’re holding on strong. They always presented themselves as happy.

And you see that and you’re just like, it was all a lie.

Saron Olkaba: Well, I think a lot of people are saying that he was just never gonna marry her if he didn’t want to get engaged at the end of this process where the end goal is to get engaged. What would make you think in the next four years something would change? So I’m excited to listen to that interview too.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I was listening to it last night, part of it and I was like, Oh my gosh, is she got her like quick. Let’s talk about it. So one of the reasons I was like, you would be perfect to have you come on this podcast is because you have so many great hot takes and I feel like just with these crazy, wedding stories, I get, um, proposal, engagement, all that stuff.

I was like, I need someone with some good opinions and we can just kind of banter through some stuff. So the first kind of category is crazy stories and wedding hot takes. So I have some different hot takes that people send me. And so I want to get your opinion on these. So what is one wedding trend or something that you’ve seen at weddings that you either absolutely include or you despise seeing? 

Cash Bars, Garter Tosses, and Other Wedding Debates

Saron Olkaba: Cash bar, certainly, never, it’s never okay under any circumstance. That’s a huge problem. That’s a huge problem. Even if you don’t drink. Oh, alcohol free weddings. Even if you are sober, you got to provide, got to provide a drink or two and you can’t make people pay for it. I think it’s like the tackiest thing in the world. Period.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it. No, I love it. I think it’s great. me personally. I agree. I feel like you need to have. Something there. I remember one time this actually just came to me. We’re talking about crazy stories. we’re at a wedding and it started off as a semi-open bar. So I think certain things were selected. It was fine. But then they switched to a cash bar without telling people and it was like people were getting their drinks. My now husband and I were up at the bar and he ordered drinks for us. And they were like, Okay, it’s this total. And he’s like, Oh, I thought this was open. Like, we didn’t have our wallets on us or anything.

And they’re like, No, switched to cash at 8 p.m. It was the weirdest thing. I would have said, Oh, I thought this was a wedding. Yeah,

I was like, Wait, this is weird. So then he ended up getting his wallet, buying the drinks. Then we left our drinks on the dance floor while we were dancing, and they cleared everyone’s drinks off the table.

So we’re like, they switched to a cash bar mid wedding, but didn’t announce it. And then we’re clearing the drinks off the tables when people are dancing. Oh no,

Saron Olkaba: That is absolutely unacceptable. Absolutely. You’re like providing an experience. People are coming out of their way to celebrate you.

They’re probably giving you a present. They might have flown out here. It’s not a paid experience. There’s already enough investment being involved in a wedding, just going to a wedding, doing all the events around a wedding. No, give them a good time if you’re gonna do it.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I totally agree with that. So, what are your thoughts on the bouquet and garter toss, because this is one of the ones I always ask Instagram followers, and this is like the one that comes up all the time to get rid of it, stop doing it. It’s weird. It’s gross. So what is your take on it?

Saron Olkaba: Yes to the bouquet, no to the garter. The garter is when the guy goes literally under her dress. That is a horror, that’s not okay. I can’t imagine. I feel like I’m at the wedding. My dad’s here, that’s so insane, no, please.

That’s not. I don’t feel particularly passionate about the bouquet as passionately as I feel about the garter knot, which should not be a thing, it’s fun, but I hope no one actually thinks that it means that you’re gonna be the one to get married next.

Christa Innis: I. Literally have been to so many weddings where the women get vicious and they like to push you. I’m like, we know we’re not actually the next one. Like it’s going to be okay. I’ve seen the videos too where they like literally push all the way and I’m like, it’s not that serious.

Saron Olkaba: Like full on shove her to the ground. 

Christa Innis: No, not for me.

Saron Olkaba: Not for me at all. And then there’s the like, you throw the bouquet and then someone catches it or like she hands it to the woman so that she can get proposed to. That’s my list of no’s as well. proposals at the wedding.

Christa Innis: Yes, I’m so glad you brought that up because someone shared a confession with me last week saying at her wedding, the best man during his speech proposed to his girlfriend, who was also a bridesmaid.

And I was like, no one knew? The bride and groom didn’t know that was gonna happen? No one knew. She said she was mortified. Security. Security. Yeah, out of here. I was like, I need to know more. I messaged her and I was like, can you tell me more? And so she said they ended up pulling him away and being like, this is not okay.

And they didn’t understand why. But then he still came back, put the ring on her finger. She hugged him and said yes. In front of everybody. She’s walking around the dance floor showing off her ring. She’s like, yeah. I can’t even believe this happened. And she’s like, I always watched your crazy wedding stories thinking it would never happen to me.

And that happened. Were there any signs that this man was a psychopath prior to? They said they’ve been friends with him for a long time. And I, I don’t know. I don’t realize how Weird and rude that is.

Saron Olkaba: No, it’s so tacky. No.

Christa Innis: Absolutely not.

Saron Olkaba: Unless, you know, the bride is in on it. And I’ve seen videos where the bride is full on team, get proposed throughout my wedding, like here’s the bouquet, turn around, I was like, yay. And do you, God bless you. That’s incredible. right. Couldn’t be me, but incredible nonetheless.

Christa Innis: Right. 

Saron Olkaba: So that’s fine.

Christa Innis: Yeah. There’s a lot of steps you should take before making sure that’s okay. Like no surprise. Let’s not surprise a bride and groom on their wedding day.

Saron Olkaba:  Right? No.

Christa Innis: Okay. So these are just some fun, like picking a side on these wedding drama debates. These are other unpopular opinions that people sent me.

So this person said having kids at the reception is a good thing and they should come and feel welcome. What’s your take on kids at weddings?

Saron Olkaba: I think that just likeA declarative sentence, having kids at a wedding is a good thing, like, by what measure, you if the bride and groom feel like it’s going to be a safe experience for them and whatever, sure, but if they want to party and not have to worry about some kid getting trampled on the dance floor, that’s completely up to them, and you should absolutely respect it, It’s not up to you, so, I don’t understand why people get so upset about it, it’s a big deal for them, it’s the one event where they’re allowed to kind of do this, if you can’t be away from your kids, just don’t come, it’s fine, just RSVP, no, yeah.

Christa Innis:  I know, that’s why I’m like, when people get so upset about it, I’m like, if you can’t go, just say no, wouldn’t be offended. Either way, I’m like, now that I have a toddler, I get it. If people do not want a toddler, day, night, either for me, or if we can’t get a babysitter, I will say no, because I would not want to.

A toddler there. Like, I get it. it’s just like, when people get so mad about it, I’m like, I don’t understand the philosophy.

Saron Olkaba: That being said, I told you I was engaged once and I almost got married. It was like a couple of months out from the wedding when it was cancelled.

But, having said that, I’m more than okay with child free weddings. We had set up child care for the people that were going to come and babysitters. And there was a difference, they were in a completely different place with their home. They would have been with their own food and their own people watching them.

And their parents could have gone back and forth to see whatever. So, If you’re going to have kids at your wedding, I think that’s a nice way to do it.

Christa Innis: I love that. I’ve been hearing that more and more. People have a separate area, a fun room for kids, or fun things, yeah. Padded walls. Exactly, yeah. Blocked, because that’s the thing. It’s like the biggest thing I think with kids at a wedding is, it’s the parents that aren’t watching the kids, or like, they’re at a certain age where they can get into anything. Like, I know if I bring my toddler somewhere, like, they’re, she’s gonna figure out a way to try to do something.

And so, like, there’s certain ages, too, where it’s like, you have to either be on them the whole time, or you can’t enjoy yourself. So, I feel like the extra room is great. Like, we had just, like, our nieces and nephews at our wedding, which was, like, so great. seven kids. And we, but we were provided with coloring stuff.

We had their own kids table. Plus we knew them well enough to where like, okay, we know they’re going to be well behaved there.

Saron Olkaba: So you said only like, I think that that’s perfectly fair as well. If you’re just like only the children that are related to us can come, like, and if people make a stink about not being able to bring their kids because, Oh, like, why can they come then? You know?

Christa Innis: Yeah. Sucks to suck. I know, because that’s something I hear too. They’re like, oh, but if you say no to my kids and I come and your nieces and nephews are there, I’ll be so mad. It’s like, you’re gonna be mad that like the bride’s niece is there versus like a co-worker’s son or something like that. I’m like, that’s so different.

Saron Olkaba: The entire drama is wild.

Christa Innis: They just don’t come. It’s fun. It is so wild. This person said, White bridesmaid dresses are weird.

Saron Olkaba: If the bride likes it, I love it. I’m not judging someone’s, like, aesthetic choices in, like, that sense. If the bridesmaid dresses are, like, stunning, gorgeous white, as long as they look good, I don’t care.

I mean, and, I don’t know if you’ve watched, like, Selling Sunset, Christine Quinn. She had, like, this black ball gown wedding dress. Oh, I did! Right? And so like, is it my style? No, but like, I don’t know. It’s 2025. We’ve been doing weddings for a long time. Like, let’s, I don’t know, let’s mix it up.

Christa Innis: I love, yeah, I love when people do like unique, crazy stuff.

I love when the bridesmaids all wear white dresses along with the bride. I think it looks pretty. But I saw this bride that had a dress that turned into a rainbow and like, like, she unbuttoned it and it turned into this rainbow dress. And I was like, that is beautiful. That’s stunning. That’s something I never would have thought of.

Yeah. Like, you go, girl.

Saron Olkaba: Be creative. You don’t have to, like, shove yourself into this box. Like, as long I mean, if you want to As long as you’re getting married at the end of it, that’s the end goal. Just like throw the party you want to throw and invite the people you want to invite. Like you’re spending a lot of money on this sh*t.

Have a good day, do whatever you want to do. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Do you black out all the haters? Pluck out the naysayers, provide

Saron Olkaba: booze, but provide,

Christa Innis: provide booze. Yeah. Provide some good entertainment. Good DJ. Yeah. Okay. Let’s jump into. This week’s story. It’s a long one. That’s all I can do. I have not read it. Just the beginning starts with the monster in law.

So it’s about to get kind of crazy.

Saron Olkaba: I love monster in law stories. 

Monster-in-Law Alert: Wedding Drama at Its Worst

Christa Innis: It’s insane. I read these and I feel so grateful that I have a great mother-in-law. I reason I’m just like, these are insane. okay, so feel free to stop me at any point. And then I’ll kind of just pause and we can kind of just react as we go.

okay. I’ve been holding my tongue for a long while, but I’m angry all the time and I needed to get this off my chest. So who better than to tell you? Hopefully this will give some content, um, because I honestly don’t know what else to do about my monster in law. I got engaged in July 2024, and from the moment we announced it, my future mother-in-law started bombarding us with questions about the wedding.

She asked when it would be, how many people we were thinking of inviting. I told her around 250 guests and she immediately said, no, it should be 500, 500. Holy cow. Um, Right. I’m like, that’s the thing, too, is like you find the ones that are so opinionated are not even giving any money a lot of times.

Saron Olkaba: I would think that would be obvious, like, you can’t say you can double the wedding if you’re not paying for the wedding.

That’s insane. Okay, continue. Yeah.

Christa Innis: No, I agree. Um, I calmly explained that we only wanted people we were close to, family or not. I also mentioned it would be a kid-free wedding except for nieces and nephews. There we go. She lost it and started a fight. Okay, a few weeks later the topic came up again, and I mentioned we were planning a sober wedding since my fiance is two years sober. He’s like covering all the things we just talked about.

Saron Olkaba: I swear we did not cover

Christa Innis: Literally, I don’t even put these together because I don’t want to read them ahead of time, so I did not even know. My mother-in-law and future sister in law laughed and said it was fine. But my fiance would need to leave the reception because they would be drinking. Wait, but isn’t this his mom and sister?

Saron Olkaba: Why would they want your fiance? The groom would be leaving his own reception to drink elsewhere apart from the

Christa Innis: what? And this is confusing because I’m like, it’s the mother-in-law, you would think she would be not wanting to like you think she’d be up against the bride, but not the groom because the groom’s her son, right?

Saron Olkaba: I think that she’s probably positioning this as oh, he wants to have a good time and drink so he can’t stay at a dry reception all night. Like we got to go to the bar or some Insanity like that. I don’t know. Please. I can’t wait to go.

Christa Innis: What? Oh my gosh. Okay. Um, That is crazy. Okay. Eventually my fiance and I decided to get married in Las Vegas to avoid all the drama.

We kept the guest list to immediate family and one friend each because the venue could only hold 50 people. We thought this would make things easier. It didn’t. Oh yeah, someone like that’s going to come right in being like, You didn’t invite me.

Saron Olkaba: Continue. There’s no winning. Okay.

Christa Innis: Yeah, this is like two weeks before the wedding. Okay, so they still were going to have this big wedding. They just did like an elopement, just the two of them. So two weeks before the wedding, my mother in law started talking about my fiancé’s dad’s nephew. I’m like, fiancé’s dad’s nephew, okay?

Um, come back. Yeah. Oh yeah. I’m like, drawing a tree in my head. I’m like, where did this go? Um, I never met this nephew. In the 12 years I’d known my fiancé, I told her the guest list was set, and there was no room. She said that was fine, and he could just enjoy it, he could just join us afterwards. I agreed.

Five days before the wedding, my fiancé got a text from his sister in law, oh, from his sister. Inviting him to dinner. He asked if I was welcome and she said, no, family only. That’s weird. His mom chimed in, doubling down saying only immediate family. She cannot come. Okay. Don’t you think like a fiance kind of becomes that?

Okay, this was a dinner to celebrate my fiance getting married and I wasn’t invited what

Saron Olkaba: getting married

Christa Innis: to you and they didn’t want you to come. Okay, he went while I stayed home and then he went. See

Saron Olkaba: girl, this is why you can’t, I already know how I feel. You can’t marry this man. This is a crazy situation.

Don’t, you’re asking for misery for the rest of your f*cking life. Yes. Who will not, who will go to a wedding, a party about a wedding that you are the bride in, that you are not invited to. He said, chill, bet, like this sounds normal to me. This is how you want to start our union? This is insane. You can’t, you can’t do this.

You can’t marry this. No,

Christa Innis: I am. Yeah. What? I am shocked. Why would he go without you? That would be like a no for me. That would be like, sorry. Like, you, you’re choosing your immediate family, who, your fiance, new wife, should be your immediate family. No.

Saron Olkaba: Marry your sister then. Marry your mom. What?

Christa Innis: Okay, five, Okay, later, okay, so he went, while I stayed at home, later my mother-in-law made a Facebook post congratulating him and tagged me in it, which this is important later, she says.

The day before we left for Vegas, my mother-in-law asked me to lunch. Even though I had so much to do, I agreed. At lunch, she told me my fiancé’s little brother had invited a friend to the wedding. I corrected her, saying he asked Wait saying he asked but we said no. Okay, so that little brother had already asked them and she said no She replied.

Well, he invited her weeks ago, and I said it was fine. It’s too late to uninvite her now

Saron Olkaba: It’s not even too late to uninvite you b*tch. Okay, so what do you mean? It’s too late to uninvite her

Christa Innis: Like what is this controlling behavior? Like I’m already so like Angry for this person because I’m like he your fiance is not even on your side.

Saron Olkaba: I’m sweating. Okay,

Christa Innis: this is bad Yeah, I feel like hot

Okay, I was furious but decided to talk to my fiance first when I told him he immediately texted his mom explaining It was disrespectful to invite someone without asking us that she needed to tell the friend he couldn’t come This sparked a meltdown. My future sister in law started calling and yelling at him, but he stood by me, okay, finally, saying no one else was getting a plus one.

When we arrived in Vegas, my mother-in-law asked again, Okay, so the wedding in Vegas is where the mother-in-law’s coming?

Saron Olkaba: Did I? She’s coming to both. Okay. They did the wedding in Vegas first because they thought it would placate her. And they invited only the immediate family from both sides, right? But they’re still having this big wedding.

Okay. They thought it would shut her up to do the first thing.

Christa Innis: To do her own thing. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Because I’m like There’s so much happening. Yeah, you’ve got me. Okay. When we arrived in Vegas, my mother in law asked again if the nephew could come to the wedding because he was already there. I reminded her there was no room and my fiancé backed me up.

On the wedding day, I went to brunch with girls from both sides of the family. My mother in law ignored me completely. Even when I greeted her, I brushed it off and enjoyed the day. This mother in law hates her. Like, this is, I would be like, you are, you can’t come. This is terrible. Like, why would you want to feel like a stranger or unwanted at your own wedding?

Like,

Saron Olkaba: I don’t, I’m like, you can’t have this. She just has the worst energy. She’s just gonna, she’s gonna try and ruin your day. Why would you, no, I would hire security, give them a picture and That would be it.

Christa Innis: Yeah, because it’s not her right to be at this wedding.

Saron Olkaba: Like,

Christa Innis: I’d be like You’re, you’re done. Sorry.

I don’t want you there. She’s a guest. She’s a guest. Yeah, you are nothing more than a guest who could easily be scratched right off. Um, at this ceremony, my sisters told me that my fiancé’s family had taken up the front rows on both sides of the pews. My mother in law refused to move, saying her parents can find another place to sit.

No, so now she’s rude to, like, her family.

Saron Olkaba: I, I’m, I, okay, like this would not be, go well

Christa Innis: for me, or, or, like, I, cause now you’re gonna be, like you said, you’re gonna be dealing with this mother in law for the rest of your life. Like, if it’s bad now, imagine like, if they have kids, or if they buy a house, you know, any step in there,

Saron Olkaba: I don’t understand why someone would, why anyone would sign up to deal with that forever.

Like, mm hmm. You’re asking to be miserable for the rest of you, what man is worth that? What man is worth having to deal with the devil day, no.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I really hope this ends with like, they cut her off. Like, they’re done with her, I hope. Fingers crossed. Uh, cause that’s like the only way this is gonna work, I feel like.

Um, okay. So she said she had to move. I had to ask the officiant to step in and remind everyone which side was for the bride’s family and which for the groom’s. This made my mother in law furious. After the ceremony, during photos, the photographer suggested moving one of my fiancé’s siblings to my side to even things out.

My sister in law loudly said, Hell no, I’m not going over there. I ignored it. At the bowling alley reception, my mother in law asked, “Who are these animals? Who

Saron Olkaba: are these beasts?

Christa Innis: I don’t know, why do they think they’re so much better than, like, her and her family? Oh, God. Jesus. It’s like I’m speechless. This is probably one of the worst mother in law stories I’ve read.

And I’ve read a lot. At the bowling alley reception, my mother in law refused to sign the guest book, despite me and my husband asking multiple times. When she finally did, she just wrote congratulations with no warmth, and she left without saying goodbye.

Saron Olkaba: Like why? That’s the nicest thing she’s done thus far.

That’s the most pleasant she’s been in this whole story.

Christa Innis: Yeah. The next day, my mom invited us to lunch before she left town. My mother in law didn’t contact us, but took my brother, my husband’s brothers to go go karting and sightseeing instead. When my husband asked why we weren’t invited, she said, you were busy.

We weren’t. Two days later, I made a Facebook post about the wedding and saw that my mother in law had untagged me from her earlier post. When my husband asked why, she said, it was a post only for you.

Saron Olkaba: Ew. Do you wanna f*ck your son? Like, what is going on here? Why? I’m sorry, can I, can I curse here? Yeah, you’re fine.

Christa Innis: A little late to ask that question, but. Redo! No. Yeah, it’ll be fine. I don’t know. That is, um, yeah, why? Like why? I don’t get these mothers-in-law that hate their daughters-in-law so much that they’re, that they have no, they don’t care like what they say, like, I don’t, like no one’s good enough for their son.

I don’t, I don’t know what it is.

Saron Olkaba: It’s an enmeshment. I think that’s the word. Or like, what is that, um, no, it’s emotionally incest, even worse. Yes. No, that’s creepy as hell. Right.

Christa Innis: There was this skit, I don’t know if you watch SNL. There was the, did you see, um, oh, who hosted the Timothee Chalamet one? No, I haven’t seen it.

This last weekend? Okay, you have to watch it, but there’s one about that, but it’s extreme, like the Oedipus Complex. It’s about like Mother’s Day and like the sun being like, hey mom. I don’t know, it’s like. I,

Saron Olkaba: I’m horrified that I’m going to be looking this up just immediately after we get off this.

You need to.

Christa Innis: It was like a cringe, but I was like. It’s like way over the top, but it was like some of these moms, yeah, I could see it. I find

Saron Olkaba: It’s like, once you meet this psycho mom, mother in law, right? How, and you see that this man sees nothing wrong with their relationship and kind of encourages it and won’t ask her.

How are you still attracted to this man that might want to f*ck his mom? Like, I, how do you not, how do you not get the ick immediately and run away from, like, self preservation?

Christa Innis: Yeah, like, cause this is, my thing is, this is not the first time something like this has happened. She had given signs before they got engaged, or when they first met, like, I’m thinking, like, first dinner at a parent’s house.

Every girlfriend

Saron Olkaba: had a book before

Christa Innis: him, before her. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, like, what were the signs before? Yeah, because it wasn’t like, oh, they’re engaged now, they’re serious, now my real, like, craziness is gonna come out. Like, I feel like she had to have treated her poorly before this.

Saron Olkaba: Right. And the sister in law is also a b*tch as well.

Christa Innis: Yeah, what’s the deal with that? Okay, three days after the wedding, she texted my husband saying she wanted to talk about my behavior at the wedding. What? He told her he wouldn’t have that conversation without me there, and she refused. A few days later, she blocked me on social media and deleted my husband?

So what her behavior was like having boundaries and like, No, expecting her

Saron Olkaba: parents to be able to sit in the front row. Yeah. And not allowing some, uh, the friend of a co-worker of her neighbor’s nephew to come last minute. Those were the things. Right. Those were the things.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it’s, it’s. Those are really harsh to have.

I mean, maybe blocking on social media and deleting the husband is like the best thing, because then you guys can’t see her on social media. I wouldn’t have said a thing

Saron Olkaba: about that.

Christa Innis: I would have

Saron Olkaba: said,

Christa Innis: great. I’m like, awesome. Yeah, you saved it. Saved, saved me from doing it. When I tried reaching out, she called my husband crying.

Here we go. The victim said she’d been crying every day because of how I treated her. When he defended me like a good, she hung up because she realized he was gone. He is not, he’s not backing you up anymore, crazy mom. He is now

Saron Olkaba: someone else’s husband. Not yours.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Not yours. Finally, my husband texted her saying she had two options.

Have a conversation or lose him. She replied, I guess I won’t be seeing you anymore then. I mean, I would say hallelujah.

Saron Olkaba: I would be like, I’m so sorry, babe. Yeah. It’ll be like, we’ll, we’ll get this. It’s just trying to keep my face straight. Okay.

Christa Innis: I know. I feel like the petty in me, I’d be like, I’d text her, I’d be like, well, have a great life. Best of luck. Yeah. Honestly, like I’m, I’m relieved, you know, and I really hope they don’t like to contact her.

And I hope it’s just like left that way because this, like we were saying, this mother in law would make her life a living hell.

Saron Olkaba: Yeah. But like do, like crazy mother in laws like this, like just like let it, like let things go. Oops. I know, did

Christa Innis: She came creeping back? It’s over, yeah, right. They’re not that easy to get rid of, I’m

Saron Olkaba: pretty sure.

Christa Innis: I wonder how, like, soon this, how soon she sent me this story after it happened. So, like, if this was, like, that day or, like, a week later.

Saron Olkaba: Yeah, we might need a, a, uh,

Christa Innis: Yeah, we might need her to like to follow. Yeah, we need to follow up. We need one of those episodes where it’s like you tell us like everything that has happened since.

Did she really not speak her word? Um, because yeah, it could be that victim mentality of like, fine, I guess I’ll never see you again. You know, so dramatic. Yeah. They show up at the front door. Let’s make up. But big

Saron Olkaba: romantic gesture.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Come back. Running back to them. Um, well that was a crazy story.

Um, really hoping that this, um, bride woman, um, got some stronger boundaries away from this mother in law because if she comes crawling back, you know, it’s, it’s going to be worse. I don’t think this, this woman’s not realizing what she’s doing wrong. Yeah.

Saron Olkaba: Yeah. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Yeah. There’s.

Saron Olkaba: I mean, honestly, this ended the best case scenario for me.

Like ideally if she, I mean, this is your best chance at peace, ma’am. So let’s just continue praying every night that she sticks to no content and contact, and you can live your life peacefully because she sounds. Absolutely horrible. But like, is your husband sad about it?

Christa Innis: I don’t, that’s not your problem.

Yeah. Yeah, I’m glad the husband I hope he kind of realizes like showing up at that dinner without her was kind of weird. Because it seems like later on in these stories, he’s defending her more. So I’m like, okay, maybe he went and was like, okay, the way my mom’s acting is weird. Yeah, it was

Saron Olkaba: weird for me to go to a wedding with, about, without the bride that I’m marrying.

Yeah, perhaps. That’s, that’s

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Saron Olkaba: That was weird. That was weird. Let’s do that. Jesus. Frig it. That was insane.

Christa Innis: That was, yeah. So, uh, props to you for keeping your boundaries up and I just hope it stays that way and, and uh, your husband realizes that. He needs to back you up first.

Saron Olkaba: Yeah, let us know if, um, if she stays out of your life.

I pray that she does. Yeah,

Christa Innis: yeah, I think I need to do, like, uh, there’s so many stories on here that I, like, need follow ups with, so I feel like I need to reach out to some of these people and be like, a follow up episode and, like, share what’s been going on since, since they sent it. Cause this was 2024, so we’re talking seven months later now.

Hopefully seven months of peace

Saron Olkaba: and quiet. So much peace and quiet. It’s like your first seven months being married. I would imagine you just want to enjoy that. You do want someone tainting every big life milestone. Every time you have kids, she’s going to make it a problem. Like, every holiday. Like, you’re literally signing up to never enjoy anything, almost, like, ever again.

Best case scenario is that she eliminates herself from the situation. Yeah.

Christa Innis: And she can feel like a victim all she wants and you can live your best life. So

Saron Olkaba: 100%. Yeah.

Wedding Confessions & Unfiltered Reactions

Christa Innis: Yeah. Okay. All right. So I like to end this with a weekly confessions game. So people send their confessions and we kind of just We can rate them.

Sometimes it’s kind of weird rating them because I feel like, I’m like, oh, your confession wasn’t great. So, um, we can rate them if we want. But, um, so people send these ones. Here we go. Um, my sister in law got mad she wasn’t my maid of honor and then questioned all of my wedding decisions.

Saron Olkaba: Uh, she sounds awful.

Uh, no wonder she was not your maid of honor. And you sound like you have discernment, ma’am. So,

Christa Innis: yeah. Sounds like she didn’t even know you knew why.

Saron Olkaba: You’re not allowed to. You’re not allowed to get mad at people for the choices that they make in their wedding, right? Like, if she feels that someone, she wanted to have someone be her maid of honor that’s not, like, her, what she did was her being honest.

Her changing her mind is just doing it to placate you. Why would you want that? Let her have whoever she wants beside her. If you’re her sister and you love her, whatever, make sure she has the day that she wants and it’s not about you. It’s literally not about you.

Christa Innis: Yeah, totally agree. Um, oh, this one tells a couple not to marry each other.

We begged, um, was begged by so many people up until the wedding to stop it. So I don’t know what the outcome was. I did see one similar, maybe this is the other part of it, but I did see one similarly where she said they still got married and she still regrets, like they still like regret, regret it or something.

Um, letting it happen? Yeah, yeah, she said she liked to tell a couple, yeah.

Saron Olkaba: You have to be okay with every possible outcome. You gotta play this every way, you know, like if I tell her and she is, Like, f*ck you, I never want to speak to you again. Is this worth me potentially losing my friendship? Is this, are his, are the problems with him big enough or dangerous enough that it’s worth risking her reacting poorly and me losing her and her being like, even more isolated with this person?

Like, you just have to think that through. Some, like, some hills are not worth dying on and others are. You just have to trust your gut. I know.

Christa Innis: Yeah, like, I’ve definitely been a part of a wedding where she Was very unhappy and you could tell it was, like, a bachelorette party. They were, she was very upset. Like, I don’t want to go through with this.

And we’re like giving her support, like, Hey, we’re here. Like, you don’t have to do it. Like I’m talking like the night before the wedding, like after the rehearsal dinner, crying in the car with us and long story short, they got a divorce. So like. It didn’t work out. And, um, Were there signs? There were lots of signs.

Lots of signs. I think you’re right. Like,

Saron Olkaba: literally weeping the night before your wedding. Yeah. Not of happiness is

Christa Innis: Yeah. Well, that’s the thing. It’s like, So we could have been like, no, you’re not gonna marry him. Like, we’ll beg, you know. But it’s like, ultimately, it was her decision. Like, she was worried, more worried about like, you know, vendors that they already paid and this and that.

And it’s just like

Saron Olkaba: Vendors? That’s like a couple emails and you just gotta be, okay, eating, believe me, I’ve done it before, eating like tens of thousands of dollars, not great, but like, but like that versus, divorces are more expensive, first and foremost. Yes. If you, if you have something worth losing and also like, just don’t, if you have the Ability to stop the train.

Stop the f*cking train.

Christa Innis: Yes.

Saron Olkaba: Yeah. As quickly

Christa Innis: as possible.

Saron Olkaba: Okay, like, don’t wait to get so far down the road.

Christa Innis: Yeah, did you see the girl who went viral because she was left at the altar? Like, literally the most terrible, like, humiliating thing, right? But she turned it into, like, this fabulous party and they documented the whole thing and I was like, you go girl.

Like, she like I don’t even know, like, she went viral of, like, sharing this, like, amazing video of herself dancing at the wedding, and, like, I was like, yeah, you know what? That’s what you do. You turn up, you have a great party, that’s what you gotta do. I saw

Saron Olkaba: That, and you’re 100 percent correct. She is, like, the strongest.

She’s, like, an inspiration. She completely turned it around, um, and, like, when something that, like, that happens, Like, two months before, like, with me, devastating day of, I can’t even f*cking imagine, I can’t imagine, and to be able to, like, to find some joy in that day, and like, actually Realized that, oh, there are a bunch of people here that really love me.

And this is like a very sad or scary moment for me. And I could either isolate myself and, and kind of immediately start dwelling in it. Or I would like to try and make the best of it with all these people who adore me and want to see me happy. And it was just, it was incredible to watch. And she’s an inspiration.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I love that. I’m like, I don’t know. I don’t know how it acted at something like that. But I’m like, she’s yeah, definitely an inspiration in that aspect. Um, well, that is all I have planned for today. Thank you so much for coming on. It was so fun chatting with you. Um, I love your content. I love all the stuff you talk about.

Like I said, I feel like I get all my like pop culture, like what’s going on in the world from you. Um, so can you share with everyone where they can find you any fun things you’re working on and all that good stuff?

Saron Olkaba: Yeah, um, you can find me at saronthings, S A R O N, things, um, on TikTok and on, uh, Instagram.

I’m going to be starting a YouTube series soon, um, two 30 minute pop culture breakdowns a week, so stay tuned for that, but yeah, I’m mostly on, uh, Instagram and TikTok.

Christa Innis: Awesome. Well, thank you again so much for coming on. Yeah, it was so fun. It was so great chatting with you. Right. Awesome.those, and hopefully those will come out sometime early 2025.

Christa Innis: Oh, that’s so cool! How awesome. You, like, you do it all. You’ve got a lot of projects. My brain doesn’t stop.

Cassie Horrell: It’s like I have an idea and I’m like, yeah, I’m just going to go for it. have no clue what I’m doing out here.

I’m just having fun and going with the flow.

Christa Innis: I love it. It’s that like planner mindset where you’re just like, okay, let’s just do it. Let’s get busy and find something. I love that. well, when those are available, definitely send me links and stuff and we can get it in the show notes. Well, thank you so much for coming on.

That was so fun having you react. Like I said, had some people tag you in like comments and stuff and now I follow your stuff and I like I love your content because you’re so involved in the wedding stuff that you’ve got stories for days so yeah

Cassie Horrell: but I feel like we have a very similar audience because we’re storytellers and like my whole page isn’t storytelling but Usually one a day, I try to tell stories and I get the same, like, people will be like, Did you see her story? And they’ll tag me, and I’m like, Oh, I saw it. That’s a juicy one. Yes.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it’s so good. I, can’t stop watching the, drama stories. They just, those ones just get me. Like, I love it.

Cassie Horrell: I feel like they’re like, a little bit of, like, reprieve from people’s everyday life.

Like, they come and they watch our stories, and it’s like, a minute and a half of like, totally Drama that they’re not in.

Christa Innis: Yes. And they get

Cassie Horrell: their little fix for the day, and then they’re like, Okay, I’ll come back tomorrow, like, see the next part, or whatever’s going on.

Christa Innis: Yes, yeah, it’s a good little, little break from reality, I think.

Yes. Awesome. Well, thank you so much again for coming on. It was awesome chatting with you. Thank you so much.

All right, guys, that was my interview with Cassie. I love chatting with her. It’s so fun to hear from someone that is so involved in the wedding industry. She’s got a lot of hot takes and she has. Honestly seen it all. So, thank you, Cassie, for coming on. Just a reminder, guys, if you love this episode or loving this podcast, please leave a review on Apple podcast.

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Family Meetings, Social Media Disasters & a Great Grandma Twist - with Cassie Horrell

What happens when a wedding planner is asked to walk Great Grandma down the aisle… only to be handed a Tupperware container?!

In this episode, Christa sits down with wedding expert Cassie Horrell to unpack the wildest wedding stories, biggest etiquette debates, and the jaw-dropping family drama that comes with saying “I do.” From setting boundaries with toxic in-laws to why open seating is a terrible idea, no topic is off-limits. Plus, they tackle unpopular wedding opinions and the ultimate white dress dilemma.

Get ready to laugh, gasp, and take notes for your own wedding day!

Episode Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction

06:43 The Wedding Planner Who Walked Great Grandma (Sort Of)

08:53 Wearing White to a Wedding: A Hard No?

11:38 First Looks vs. Traditional Aisle Moments

14:13 Why Open Seating at a Wedding is a Nightmare

17:53 The Worst Mother-in-Law Story You’ll Ever Hear

22:38 Bridesmaid Budget Drama & Bachelorette Expectations

27:08 Unpopular Wedding Opinions: Toss Traditions or Keep Them?

31:46 Wedding Confessions: The Most Awkward Guest Bets Ever

Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • Great Grandma’s Final Wedding Appearance – When a groom’s family insists their beloved great-grandmother must be part of the wedding, Cassie prepares for an emotional moment—until she’s handed a Tupperware container.
  • Wearing White to a Wedding: A Crime? – Cassie and Christa debate the biggest wedding guest faux pas and share real-life stories of guests who should’ve known better.
  • First Look vs. Traditional Aisle Moment – The pros, cons, and the real reason so many wedding planners swear by first looks.
  • The Worst Mother-in-Law Ever? – This mother-in-law sabotaged dress shopping, criticized the bride’s body, and demanded her son’s ex be reinstated as a bridesmaid.
  • Why Open Seating is a Disaster – Cassie explains why letting guests pick their own seats sounds nice in theory—but causes absolute chaos in reality.
  • Wedding Confessions: The Awkward Guest Bets – What happens when wedding guests start betting on how long the marriage will last? Christa and Cassie react to the ultimate cringe moment.

Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode

“PSA: If you have to ask, ‘Is this too white for a wedding?’—the answer is YES.” – Christa Innis

“I could not imagine having to walk on eggshells around my in-laws. That’s terrifying.” – Christa Innis

“Why do people feel the need to comment on a bride’s body on her wedding day?” – Christa Innis

“Nothing is mandatory at a wedding. If a tradition doesn’t serve you, toss it.” – Cassie Horrell

“If your wedding planner asks if your guest list is finalized, don’t surprise them with last-minute ‘add-ons’ like great-grandma’s ashes.” – Cassie Horrell

“You don’t need to invite people just because they’re family. It’s your day.” – Cassie Horrell

About Cassie

Cassie Horrell is a seasoned wedding planner and event coordinator known for her ability to handle even the most unpredictable wedding day chaos with humor and grace. With years of experience in the industry, Cassie has seen it all—from heartwarming moments to jaw-dropping disasters—and she’s not afraid to spill the tea. She’s passionate about helping couples navigate the stress of wedding planning, set boundaries with overbearing family members, and create a day that feels authentically theirs. Whether it’s dodging last-minute guest list surprises or dealing with wedding etiquette debates, Cassie brings expertise, real talk, and a whole lot of laughs.

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Christa Innis: Hi, Cassie. Thank you so much for coming on.

Cassie Horrell: Of course. Thank you so much for having me.

Christa Innis: Yes. I’m so excited, especially because you have like firsthand experience in wedding drama. You do so much when it comes to weddings and you have some amazing content that I’ve loved, like seeing more recently. Cause when I started talking about the podcast, people kept tagging you.

And I was like, this is so cool. And you have like so many stories. So I was like, we have to talk and like, see what we can, come up with here. But before we get started, can you just tell us a little bit about you and what you do and then we’ll kind of jump into it.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah, my name is Cassie.

A lot of people on tiktok know me as wedding pro cast. I’ve been in the industry for about 12 years now. Always working venue based usually from properties like clubs, resorts. And now I work at the Heinz History Center in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. so that’s kind of my main job. I help and lead a team that does about 60 weddings a year.

So we see a ton come in and out of our building. and I own a mobile bar, Clink 92, that services weddings and all kinds of events in Pittsburgh and Ohio. And then just this year, because of TikTok, I have started taking on personal clients, very small, anywhere between two to five a year, just because I’m so busy, where I actually do full service planning and partial planning for couples, so.

Christa Innis: That is amazing. Having fun. Yeah. So you’re like a planner by nature. You love getting it all together.

Cassie Horrell: Yes. I feel like since I’ve been young, that’s how I am. And I am just a very creative person. So any type of outlet where I can be connecting with people and sharing ideas and building something from the ground up, I absolutely love.

Christa Innis: Yeah, that’s amazing. And 60 weddings a year. Wow. That is, how do you keep everything like straight? Like, do you ever like mix up like, Oh, this couple here, wait, that was that couple. Like, I don’t, how do you, you have to be a really like very organized person.

Cassie Horrell: So I have to say, like, a lot of the reason we’re so successful is because of the amazing people that work on my team. I oversee several planners, events operations managers, and a full crew that really help the magic kind of come together on a wedding day. So that helps me not have to take on the brunt of everything, which helps a lot. I usually just at the History Center have anywhere between 8 to 12 couples that are specifically mine. Um, So that makes it a little bit easier to manage.

Christa Innis: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Wow, that sounds awesome. So I bet like, which we’re going to talk about today, I bet you have a lot of wedding horror stories. I’m sure you have good and bad stories. Yes. we always talk about, I always make sure, and I’m sure you have to say this with your People on your channel as well as like there are so many amazing wedding stories. I get some comments Sometimes it’ll be like, oh, thank god Like I saw this because I never want to get married and i’m just like no I don’t want my channel to like make you not want to get married or have a wedding because there’s like so many drama free Weddings, but the drama ones just really heighten when they’re so crazy,

Cassie Horrell: right?

And I feel like i’m the same way I go on my channel like every so Often, and I’m like, hey, just a reminder. A lot of the stories are dramatized and bad things do not happen at every wedding. Every single wedding has the happy moments. It has these beautiful moments, and none of the stories I tell, I never want them to veer somebody from getting married. Like, obviously, I’m in the wedding industry, as you are. Like, we love weddings. we like to see the big weddings. And I see a lot of people like, I’m eloping because of this. And I’m like, please don’t jump to that conclusion. These stories just like, I feel like our audience thrives on them and it gives them a little bit of drama in their day. So that’s why it’s fun to post and connect with people.

Christa Innis: Yeah, absolutely. And I think the other side of it too is like, teaching people like, boundaries to have. Like, some of the conversations that you post is like, it’s helping someone on whether they’re like, quote unquote villain of the story or quote unquote like, protagonist.

Like, seeing these like, conversations take place can help. I’m know what to say in certain situations or how to set boundaries with someone that maybe is overbearing.

Cassie Horrell: Exactly. And I get a lot of people, I know your channel does too, where people will say, oh my gosh, I’m the mom in this situation. Or I need to say this to my mom, I need to say this to my sister, because it puts into perspective that other people are going through a similar situation or something that’s pretty applicable.

And how we are responding shows them how they could respond.

Christa Innis: Yeah, absolutely. So jumping into kind of crazy stories and wedding hot takes, what is like one of the craziest stories that comes to mind when you’re asked about it?

The Wedding Planner Who Walked Great Grandma… Or Did She?

Cassie Horrell: so this one, it’s one of the funnier ones, but it’s a little bit heartfelt.

And I have shared it on my page two different times. but I had a couple that was just, Like elite vibes, you know when you like bond with a couple everybody in the family is like so fun There was zero drama. So I go into the wedding weekend and we run rehearsal. Everything’s great The next day I check in on the couples we had where I was working at the time. There was like two Villas so one for the ladies one for the gentleman check it with the ladies. Everything’s good I check in with the gentleman and they all the sudden are like, oh my gosh We forgot to tell you our great grandma Has to be in the wedding ceremony and I’m like, oh my goodness, like, I can’t believe we didn’t go over this.

So I logistically go into planner mode, like, what song does she want to walk to? Does she need an escort? Is there a walker or a wheelchair? Where are we reserving her a spot? And they’re like, yeah, we’d love if you would walk her down the aisle and as long as she has a seat in the front row, that’s all good. So me, I’m like, great. Just let me know when grandma gets here and I’m looking around like no grandma in sight. And one of the groomsmen, who was the brother, is like, Hey, Grandma’s already here. I already have her. And I’m like, Oh, well, do you need me to go get a wheelchair to, like, pick her up? And he’s like, No, let me go grab her.

And brings out a Tupperware container of her remains. And, like, they have, they have drawn, like, this little smiley face on it. And me, like, I was just surprised, like, whatever, if that’s what your family does, and like, this is how you bring great grandma to things. And they just hand her over to me, like, yeah, here she is, like, if you don’t mind, like, before it starts, walking her down and, like, putting her on the chair so her face is facing us. And I’m like, her face? A joke? So, I literally have this little Tupperware container that I’m, like, walking down before the real processional starts. I place her on the chair, like, make sure the little Sharpie face that they drew on there is, like, facing front. And to me, I found it, like, hilarious, but also, like, a little sentimental and special, like, this is how their family’s, like, including their great grandma, and they told me after that their great grandma has been to, like, all the cousins weddings, she comes to the holidays, and it’s, like, kind of a joke, but also not, and to me, that was, like, One of those crazy stories that you like go into a wedding day and you don’t Expect for that to happen and you just kind of got to go with it and keep everything light hearted So yeah, that’s one that I share quite frequently because it’s not too drama filled but just a little surprising.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh Because it’s like one of those things where I think They probably got so used to in their own family, just saying, Oh, great grandma, bring great grandma, but forgot to mention to you, like, great grandma’s ashes. Like, you know, so you’re expecting this, like, person and they just were like, let’s see what she, how she reacts to that.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah. And like, luckily I’m very, like, go with the flow. So I was just like, okay, great grandma’s going to hang out with me for the next hour. I’ll make sure she gets down the aisle.

Christa Innis: Oh, my gosh. Okay. So kind of going into that, but I want to talk about wedding hot takes and I kind of want to angle it a little bit differently since you’re so involved in the wedding industry.

Cassie Horrell: Okay.

Christa Innis: This first one’s about a guest or someone wearing white to the wedding. How would you handle that? And like, what are your own takes on when someone tries to wear white to a wedding?

Wearing White to a Wedding: Just Don’t

Cassie Horrell: Okay. My own personal take is absolutely not. We are not wearing white to a wedding. Only reason you should be wearing white to a wedding is if the couple, like, specifies, hey, the dress code is all white. Because there are weddings that do that. And I think in that case, of course. But if it has not been specified to wear white, it is reserved for the bride, typically. I have had brides get married in blue. I’ve had brides get married in black, but typically, if you’re going to take a bet on something, most likely the bride is wearing a shade of white.

So, personally, that is my take. I have only had this happen twice, where I’ve had people arrive to a wedding and they are wearing white. one time it was a child that was like a guest, maybe like middle aged school age. So I didn’t really think that was an issue. It didn’t become an issue. But there was another time where a girl was literally wearing a white dress. It had like very teeny weenie tints of like blush flowers, like very light, looked white. And in this case, I basically went to one of the bridesmaids. And I said, how do you think the bride is going to react to her wearing white?

And the bridesmaid was like, she needs to change. So I approached the guest, and I’ve actually done a, I did a story on this on my page. Approached the guest and I just let her know, Somebody in the wedding party has noticed the white dress. Do you have any change of clothes? Are you coming from out of town? Luckily, she was like, I thought people might think this was too white. Which I’m like, did you look in the mirror? She was staying at the hotel that was like a mile away. She had arrived at least 20 minutes before the ceremony. So she’s like, I will go back now. I’ll change. She actually ended up not making it back for the ceremony.

And she was there at cocktail hour in a purple dress. So to me, if. Someone wears white and I’m not sure how the couple would respond. Maybe we haven’t chatted about it. I will approach somebody that’s close to the bride. mom, sister, I typically don’t like to bother the bride with it. and if they think they need to change, I have no problem. Approaching somebody letting them know.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Oh my gosh. That was handled so well, because it’s like, you never know how that person’s gonna react either. but yeah, like, PSA is like, if you think it’s too white, or when you’re looking in the mirror getting ready, and you’re like, mm, no people think it, then it probably is too white.

Cassie Horrell: Yes. If it crosses your mind, is this too white, or you’re texting a group chat, do we think this is too, has too much white in it, then like, just put it back on, in your closet and wear it another day.

Christa Innis: Yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Okay. What are your thoughts on the bride and groom seeing each other before walking down the ceremony, like doing a first look as opposed to at the end of the altar?

First Look vs. Aisle Moment: The Ultimate Wedding Debate

Cassie Horrell: So, as a professional, I’m a huge fan of the first look. Just logistically, it makes your couple’s day, I think, a little bit more relaxed, not as rushed. obviously, you can get all those pictures before. And if I know my couples are super emotional, I sometimes recommend that because it takes the pressure off of, like, having that moment when you walk down the aisle.

So, personally, as a or as a professional, I would 100 percent say first look. Now, personally, I am a sucker for, like, the traditional, see each other when you walk down the aisle. That is what I did with my husband, but I do have to say we were both like happy crying the whole wedding because it was so overwhelming. And that is one of the reasons that I’m like, man, if I went back in time, I might have done a first look.

Christa Innis: but

Cassie Horrell: that was like eight years ago. So I’m like, first looks were not as popular then.

Christa Innis: Right, right. That’s so funny. That’s like such a, that’s like the very common thing I hear. It’s like, Logistically, when people are like planners or they work behind the scenes, they’re like, yes, do a first look.

But for brides themselves, a lot of times they’re like, no, I love that, like, moment because I was the same way. Like, I loved having that first moment down the aisle. But I’ve been a part of so many weddings where they did a first look, so. It’s kind of interesting to see, um, do you have any wedding hot takes or unpopular opinions that you can think of far off the bat?

Otherwise, we’ll jump into a section called unpopular opinions from other people.

Why Open Seating at a Formal Wedding is a Nightmare

Cassie Horrell: Okay, well, one opinion that I always share very frequently on my page and it always is like I get so many like comments is I do not believe a formal wedding. has, should have open seating. Like, absolutely not. It should be organized seating.

I don’t care if you’re doing seating assignments or table assignments. Open seating at a formal wedding is just not it. And I always talk about like the repercussions of choosing that and people in the comments are like Oh, I did open seating for my 300 person wedding. It was no problem. And I was like, you probably just didn’t see it cause it was your wedding day. But when I tell you there’s repercussions to that choice, there totally is. So that is like my number one opinion that I have on seating.

Christa Innis: Yes. No, I love that. I, I’m such a planner myself, type a, I love a good seating chart. Like nothing makes me happier than being as a guest and on the other side of things.

I love being told where to sat, where to sit because, It kind of brings back like, Oh, we have enough room or, Oh, I don’t know anybody at this wedding. So where are my husband and I, or where am I going to squeeze in and it’s just makes things less awkward if you’re like, you know what, that’s my seat. Don’t need to think about it.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah, literally from like a timeline standpoint. Guest comfortability and then even the host comfortability, knowing everybody will be taken care of. It’s the best route to go.

Christa Innis: Yes. And I loved, I don’t know about you at your own wedding, but I loved putting together the seating chart of like, Oh, this person would get along with that person, but I’m going to put them here.

And like, my husband would laugh at me because I had so much fun. Like every night I’d be like, okay, I think I need to move these people. He’s like, it looks good. I’m like, well, how about this and this? And like, I loved like. The final, like, I don’t know. It was so much fun for me to put together.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah. Me and my husband got married.

We were 23, 24. So like pretty young. So I felt a little bit like matchmaker. Cause like we were invited a lot of our single friends after college. Oh, we could sit these people together and these people together. Uh, but no, that’s definitely a fun part of it.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. I love that. Okay. So here’s some unpopular opinions that people sent me on Instagram.

So let’s kind of see what they had to say. Um, this person says. Take. Okay. Take wedding parties, individual budget into consideration when planning wedding events. What are your thoughts on that?

Cassie Horrell: Make wedding parties, individual budgets. Okay. So when I, if you’re in the wedding party, I am on board. I do have to agree.

I am on board with like getting a general sense of like where people are at monetarily. Usually in a wedding party, like people are all over in their life. Like some people may have kids. Some people may be in eight weddings that year. So I do think it’s important to kind of get a general sense of what people can spend when it comes to like bachelorette.

And those types of things. I think when it comes to the actual wedding, no, um, that should be up to the couple. Um, when it comes to attire, you 100 percent should keep in mind people’s budget, especially if they’re buying all of their own things. If the bride or groom are paying for wedding party things, then I don’t think it truly matters.

Um, but yeah, I am on board on that for the most part.

Christa Innis: Yeah. And I think too, an important thing to say is like, It should never be a requirement. Like, if someone wants to be in your wedding, like, but they’re like, I can’t make it to the bachelorette party, it’s out of my budget, it’s okay to say no to those things.

Because I see so many times in comments like, oh, the bride’s selfish for wanting to do a bachelorette party trip to Florida or wherever it is. And it’s like, but as a bridesmaid, you have the free will to say No, like, I will be in your wedding, but I can’t afford this. Um, so it definitely goes both ways for sure.

Yes. Um, this person says, Her unpopular opinion is doing something for tradition’s sake is unnecessary, i. e. the bouquet toss and garter toss.

Cassie Horrell: I agree with that one as well. Um, I feel regardless of the tradition, the couple should always be choosing things that make the most sense for them and their partner and, like, are going to enhance their day.

And if you are getting forced to do a cake cutting, the guard, or the bouquet, and you don’t want to do it, like, it’s the worst thing. Like, nobody should be forcing you to do anything on your day just because it’s tradition or mom did it, dad did it. Um, and I always tell people that there is no Nothing is mandatory at a wedding when it comes to the formalities.

Christa Innis: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I feel like so many times people fall into the trap of like, well, they did it so I have to do it too. Or this is like what’s expected of me. And I feel like when you start going that way, then you either have regrets about your wedding or you’re uncomfortable on your own wedding day.

Right? Yeah, I totally agree. Okay, I want to jump into this week’s wedding submission because it’s a little. A little long. Um, so here we go. I’ve not read this, so we’ll see how this, how this one goes. Um, and feel free to stop me anytime if you want to add something or react to it. We’ll just kind of react as it goes.

The Monster-in-Law Who Tried to Take Over the Wedding

Cassie Horrell: Let me pull up on my screen here and make sure I can see it all. Okay. When my husband and I met online, or sorry, when my husband and I met, it was online. I knew before I ever met him, it was. He, in person, he was the man I was going to marry. We talked for a long time via messages and FaceTime before ever meeting.

We met and it wasn’t long before he had hinted that he was going to propose to me. It finally happened a week before one of my closest friends was to be married. So I kept the news to myself until we got through that and then I announced it, which props to her. That’s very nice.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah.

Christa Innis: Um, my, my parents had already knew it was going to happen.

As he sat down and spoke with them, my older brother also knew it was coming as well. I guess he had covered all the bases with my family about asking me to marry him, but he hadn’t said anything to his family at all. Which What? Interesting. Excuse me? Yeah. When we announced that we were engaged on Facebook, oh gosh, everyone seemed very happy about it.

Then I started to see angry faces and a lot of negative comments. My mother in law commented saying, how effing, the actual word, effing dare you announce this without asking my permission first? Oh, not on a public face.

Cassie Horrell: This is terrible.

Christa Innis: So bad. Uh, then it only got worse from there. She proceeded to call me names and tell me that I wasn’t good enough to marry her son.

Oh my gosh. Uh, all while she was commenting, my sister in law was commenting and yelling, Oh, calling and yelling at him about how they should have had a family meeting about allowing a woman with kids into the family.

Cassie Horrell: What?

Christa Innis: I felt sick and unwanted. That is terrible. Family meeting.

Cassie Horrell: No.

Christa Innis: Oh, my gosh.

Eventually we get to planning the wedding and his mom had made it very clear that she did not want any part of helping plan the wedding. We tried to include her many times, but she would just keep saying rude things about how my wedding didn’t need to be the center of every conversation. So my husband is from a really small town and we went there for the Fourth of July.

This was the first time I would be meeting his dad and step mom, his brother and sister. Yes, the same sister that was calling and yelling at him. It was a good time, and they were very interested in all the things that we had planned for the wedding. Okay, so it seems like some family member was like,

Cassie Horrell: this is turning around.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

Cassie Horrell: Maybe.

Christa Innis: Maybe. His dad told us that we had an allotted amount of money to use, and that if he needed anything beyond that, um, his mom would have to help us. So his ex, the dad’s ex wife. Um, so it was the day we went dress shopping and because we had so many bridesmaids, the place was a full house.

Everyone was having the best time. Then we felt a shift in the energy and my mother in law walked in just the gray clouds.

Cassie Horrell: Here we go.

Christa Innis: She was extremely upset that no one picked her. Picked her up to bring her to the bridal shop. She sat down and shouted, Let’s get this thing over with. I don’t want to be here all effing day.

Cassie Horrell: She seems nasty.

Christa Innis: Yeah, why even invite her? Like, I would be like, No, you’re not coming. Cause I wouldn’t even want someone’s opinions like that. My mom looked over at her and asked her to leave then if she didn’t want to be there. Yeah. Then she said, She’s been married before, so I don’t know why she even needs to buy a dress.

Cassie Horrell: That is terrible.

Christa Innis: I hate that. She could have gotten one at Goodwill.

Cassie Horrell: No.

Christa Innis: Okay, that is terrible.

Cassie Horrell: This lady’s a witch.

Christa Innis: Yeah. I ignored the comments and started trying on dresses. There wasn’t a dress I tried on that she didn’t have a rude comment about. I would be telling her to leave at that point. That is, yeah, that’s so like unenjoyable.

I finally found the one and loved it and it made me happy. Later that evening at dinner, she tells my husband. I found the dress that hides my arm flab the best.

Cassie Horrell: No, this is bad. I don’t know who this woman is, but this is bad.

Christa Innis: This is bad. This is like one of the worst stories I’ve read. Oh my gosh. The night of my rehearsal, my mother in law sat there complaining the whole time how she had to sit at the same table as my father in law.

She kept saying he better not talk to me. Then finally my brother in law shows up late and my mother in law demanded that I allow my brother in law’s wife in the wedding as a bridesmaid.

Cassie Horrell: Excuse me?

Christa Innis: At the rehearsal dinner? Okay. She was supposed to be my bridesmaid and then they broke up and I guess they got back together the week of the wedding.

Surprise. Okay. They called me many times that week and never said anything about it so I was a little taken aback by this. My mother in law told me that she was told to bring the dress and that she would make me let her be in the wedding again.

Cassie Horrell: This is the mother in law said that again said that the

Christa Innis: oh told me to bring her dress with and she and to make her bring.

Okay. Wait, I need to say that again. Sorry.

Cassie Horrell: I’m like, wait,

Christa Innis: my mother in law told me that she told her to bring the dress with her and that she would make me let her be in the wedding again.

Cassie Horrell: Okay. So force this girl into the wedding.

Christa Innis: Yeah. And make her and make my other bridesmaids sit out. Wait, so that’s even worse. Like, we’re just going to swap you right in there.

Cassie Horrell: This is terrible.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. I told her I wouldn’t allow my other bridesmaid who paid money for the dress to sit out and they would both have to walk down the aisle together. That didn’t make her happy and she told me to just tell my bridesmaid that we would reimburse her for the dress and she could sit down and enjoy herself. I again told her absolutely not. She got upset and called me a spoiled witch. I

Cassie Horrell: I’m a little taken back by this woman.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it’s hard because it’s like I’m not in that position, so it’s always different when you’re in it, but I’m just like, I could not stand to be around someone like that that’s constantly mean like that and just like trying to control everything.

Cassie Horrell: Also, I’m a little confused. Like, why isn’t the partner standing up to his mom or like being a little bit more supportive here? Because it wasn’t like one instance. This is like 20 instances.

Christa Innis: Yes. Like he needs to be like. Like, guarded security at this point, like, blocking her, because yeah, that’s, that’s too much.

We finally get to the rehearsal, we finally get the rehearsal done and everyone left to go to my brother’s house where we were gonna have pizza. My sister in law made rude comments about how we could only afford pizza and not a real meal.

Cassie Horrell: Oh

Christa Innis: no. Let me tell you, we had pizza at our rehearsal dinner and it was still expensive.

Everyone loves pizza. There’s no problem with pizza. Exactly. No one complained. At least not to our face. Um, My parents shelled out over a thousand dollars for this meal. It’s what we chose as it feeds the most. And it was easy as my husband was having his bachelor party the night before the wedding.

Cassie Horrell: Yikes. Sewing

Christa Innis: scrims, man. Yeah. No, I don’t know if people still did that. Yeah, no, no,

Cassie Horrell: no.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Um, uh, yeah, so he had his bachelor party. It was a terrible idea, by the way. But that’s a story for another day. So we all had pizza and us girls all left. We told my mother in law three times before we left what time our hair and makeup appointment was the next morning. And we were almost done when she and my brother in law’s wife showed up to get ready. She said, how dare I get ready before the mother of The groom. What? I cannot believe the audacity here.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah, she’s out of line. Yeah.

Christa Innis: When everyone was ready to go to the ballroom and get ready for pictures, she was mad that we were leaving her. Well, you should have been there on time.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah.

Christa Innis: We were on a strict time frame. We told her that my sister in law needed to be there by a certain time for pictures. She never got there in time for pictures and it snowballed from there. My mother in law ruined our first look, not surprised, by accidentally getting mud all over the bottom of my dress. Oh. Accidentally. Yeah, how did that happen? She wouldn’t smile in any pictures. Oh my gosh. Um, so later that night I heard someone say that my mother in law was telling everyone that my wedding was unclassy and tacky. And that clearly we didn’t have any money to buy real things. Why do people feel the need to make comments like that?

Cassie Horrell: Right, keep it to yourself.

Christa Innis: Yeah, like, come on. Oh, and yes, then the arm, arm flab comet came up again that night. I’d slap her. I’d slap her. Oh my gosh, that is terrible. Like, never, never comment on someone’s body, but especially not a bride on her wedding day. Exactly. Like, that is not okay. And that night she walked by and pinched my arm and said, You should really work on that. It’s gross.

Cassie Horrell: No. This could be like a whole series. This is like the series of Unfortunate Mother in Law. I don’t know what this is.

Christa Innis: Literally, I’m like picturing like, uh, I don’t even know, like, what’s that movie? Like, Monster in Law? It’s like literally something like that. Like, if someone did that to me, I would literally be like, you can leave right now. But I would’ve, I feel like I would’ve said that so many times. I don’t know. Same. Um, I wish I could have made that up, but I didn’t. My mother in law to this day is still not a nice woman, doesn’t speak to me, my brother in law is not married to that woman anymore, and my father in law is still the coolest. Well, at least the father in law is cool. Here’s to 10 years and crazy in laws.

Cassie Horrell: Wow. I can’t believe she put up with that on her wedding day.

Christa Innis: I, yeah, I feel like once I saw those like rude Facebook comments, I would be like, okay, we need to fix this now or you’re not invited to anything because like the wedding dress thing, I would not want to put on and try wedding dresses in front of someone like that.

Cassie Horrell: No, I mean, I did dress shopping with just me and my mom and it was like perfect because it was like little opinion and like I could really try it on. I can’t imagine like having my whole wedding party, my mom, mother in law, especially somebody that like, You get the vibes. They don’t like you. It’s like they’re trying to sabotage your whole experience, which is what this woman did.

Christa Innis: Exactly. Yeah. And like kind of going back to when people are like, Oh, these stories make me never want to get married or something. It’s like someone like this. You have red flags ahead of time. Like you’re not going to just also have a you. Um, wedding dress shop and the person that’s been so nice to you is always going to be like, Oh, that looks terrible, you know, like, so I think a lot of times you’ll have those red flags about people. And if you don’t, I don’t think it’s going to automatically just change.

Cassie Horrell: Right. I think the thing that just like surprises me about the story is that the husband was seeing this happen and like she doesn’t share the husband might have had conversations with his mom like she didn’t share that part of it but I’m like, that truly shocks me that like he would allow.

His mom to speak to his wife like that and I’m like, I just I can’t imagine that happened Like you said like we’re not in that in the situation. You’re reading it from a one sided story But like that’s what shocks me. The most is that like they let her get away with it

Christa Innis: Right. Well, yeah, and it’s and I find it interesting She says and she doesn’t speak to me which makes me think she still speaks to the Sun which And I, again, don’t want to make assumptions, but if I was being treated that way, and my husband was still talking to his mom, I would be like, no.

Like, you need to back up your wife. Right. So, it sounds like she’s, like, still talking to The son, but just not the wife and the wife, like the brother’s like wife so much and she was like trying to pull her in. I’m like, what’s the difference? Like, wow,

Cassie Horrell: and they’re not even married anymore. So it looks like the son picked a very great partner. We’re like, the other son didn’t have as great of a match. So that’s a little weird too.

Christa Innis: Yeah. Yeah. I feel like when I hear these stories, it has to do with like some kind of like jealousy or like appearances or like, like she wants to look a certain way. I don’t know. Yeah.

Cassie Horrell: That’s it always surprises me because like I have the world’s best mother in law that she’s just like an angel and like Our families get along, and there’s just like never really issues, and in the planning process it was like so easy, so when I hear these stories, I’m like, I can’t believe someone would act like that, or like, treat somebody like that, especially in like, the era of being engaged and planning your wedding, like it’s such a sentimental time, and something that you think about like for the rest of your life, and like for somebody to ruin it, because of their poor attitude, I’m like, how unfortunate, Is that that happens to people.

Christa Innis: I know. I know. It’s so funny because when I post these stories, people always assume it’s because, I have a terrible mother in law too. And I’m like, no, my mother in law is amazing. Like, like I could call her up any time of the day. She’s so sweet. Like we get along great. Our family’s going on great. And so then when I hear these stories, I’m like, I could not imagine having to, like, feel like you have to, like, walk on tiptoes, or get super anxious when you have to go see his family or something, like, That’s terrifying.

Cassie Horrell: Yeah. And like, I’m sure you get this in your comments as well, but I am also sometimes surprised by how many people are like, I have this, like, this is the situation I’m in with in laws. And I’m like, hundreds and hundreds of people that like can relate to that. I’m like, that is shocking to me.

Christa Innis: Yeah.

And even when I dramatize things, like, and I’m like, Oh, this is like a really crazy character. I’ll do this. And someone will comment and they’re like, That’s almost word for word how my mother in law talks to me. And I’m like, girl, I’m so sorry. Yeah. Because I’m also someone like I hate confrontation. I’m so bad with stuff like that. So when I hear this stuff, I’m like, my stomach drops. I’m like, how do you deal with that? I would not be able to.

Cassie Horrell: No, no.

Christa Innis: Oh my gosh. Well, that was a good story. Bad story, but a good, great,

Cassie Horrell: great story. A great story with a lot of drama.

Christa Innis: Yes. I’m very sorry for this, Bri, but thank you for sharing your story with us and I’m glad you, sounds like you’ve set up some boundaries. Where you don’t talk to her, but let’s get that husband on side. Yeah. Okay, so to end, I’m just gonna read a couple of confessions that people sent to me. People are sending me confessions on Instagram as well. I love

Cassie Horrell: this.

The Nine-Hour Road Trip Request: Mother-in-Law Madness

Christa Innis: And then we’ll just share, our takes on them. Okay. I was having some guests before kind of rate them as like mild tea or chaos, but it’s kind of more fun just to kind of react to them. okay. So this one says. My mother in law wanted us to travel nine and a half hours to her while I’m 36 weeks pregnant.

Cassie Horrell: No, absolutely not. I have two kids. No. Nope, nope, nope.

Christa Innis: Same. Yeah, I’d be like, no, thank you. I barely wanted to travel, like, to the store when I was 36 weeks pregnant,

Cassie Horrell: so. Yeah, and you can’t, like, you would have to drive. You can’t even get on a plane at that time. Exactly. Like, you would have to drive there, and like, how uncomfortable, and what if something happens, and you’re nine and a half hours from home, like, that’s where you have to go to have your baby. Those aren’t your doctors. Crazy. That’s crazy. Yeah.

Christa Innis: Like, you can come to me if you really want to.

Cassie Horrell: Exactly.

Christa Innis: This person says the bride and groom shouldn’t set invites to family members who they don’t have a relationship with.

Cassie Horrell: Now, I’m like, I’m pro that. Like, I kind of support that. I’m always like, and I see it from the other side, like, just because your family doesn’t entitle you to an invitation, I do.

I think that if you are curating a guest list that is like, you want to be surrounded by people that are supportive of you, involved in your life, then like, why are you sending invitations to your fourth cousins that you’ve never met?

Christa Innis: It can look

Cassie Horrell: a little bit like a money grab, but then I also see it on the other side, where I’m like, people just have big families, they’re not close with everybody.

that doesn’t mean they don’t want to come and support the couple.

Christa Innis: So.

Cassie Horrell: I see it both ways.

Christa Innis: I know. I know. It’s hard. It’s like, I feel like traditionally it was like, invite everybody that like, your parents, friends, your parents, second cousins and stuff. But now I feel like people are getting better about, okay, well, what can we fit in our budget? or do we want to be surrounded by people that we personally know? And I think it just goes down to like, as the bride and groom, what do you two want and go from there? I guess that was more of like a. Opinion, Alyssa Confession. Okay, this last one, at my oldest brother’s wedding, my cousins and I secretly bet on how long it would last.

Betting on the Marriage: Wedding Guests Gone Too Far

Cassie Horrell: I think that’s a little bit funny, but also I’m like, hopefully your cousin’s picking like a good imagine you would wish for a lifetime of happiness. But I’ve had friends in this situation where like I go to the wedding and I’m like, I don’t know if this is it for them. In the back of my mind, I don’t say it out loud, right.

It’s in the back of my mind.

Christa Innis: I know, that is a little bit of a hot take there of like going, but I mean I’m sure like it’s, you kind of think about it because you’re at a wedding and you’re like okay, here’s to like forever. I’ve definitely been to a wedding and Spoiler alert, they did get in a divorce, and I’m not friends with the girl, not because of that, but it’s a whole other thing, but at the wedding I was like, this is doomed, and I hate to say that, because never thought that other than this wedding, I was like, this is, or no, I’m sorry, there’s been two, and they both I have

Cassie Horrell: two.

And so did mine. They ended in a divorce or separation. So I’m like

Christa Innis: Well, and they both, both of them had red flags before. Like, literally, the bride was crying to us at her bachelorette party. And we were like, if you need to get out, like, tell us what you need. Like, we’ll help you. No, no, no. It’s fine. Day before the wedding, after the rehearsal dinner, sobbing in the car. I don’t want to do this. We already spent so much money.

Cassie Horrell: And that happens, like, there is people that that happens to, like, they go through with it because they feel like their parents or themselves or whoever’s contributing have already paid all of this money and it’s like, we don’t want to cancel it, like, but at the end of the day, it’s like, it’s canceling your wedding because you know, it’s not the right match better than a divorce one year later.

Christa Innis: Exactly. And that’s going to be costly too, so, just turn it into a big party. Everyone’s traveling in. Have a big party. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, I know it’s easier said than done, but right, definitely. all right. Well, that was the last one. Well, thank you so much for coming on. This was, yeah, this was a blast. can you tell everyone where they can follow you? Any other projects you’re working on and all that good stuff?

Cassie Horrell: Yes. So, you could follow me. Wedding podcasts. I am mainly on TikTok, but I’m starting to branch out. Instagram, I am getting a couple things in the works for YouTube. I do not have it in me to do a podcast, but I love being a guest on the podcast.

So this is amazing . a couple projects I’m working on. So I have created. And a lot of people find me in for this is I’ve created planning courses that are very cost effective for people that are self planning and cannot afford a wedding planner. So I have always offered these to my wedding my way and three to four months till I do, which are specific to like certain timeframes of your wedding.

 I am currently working on a membership, which will be like an alternative way of planning where you basically have like a video vault and constant courses and things being uploaded. And I just wrote two children’s books that are specific to, like, Flower Girl and Ring Bear, and about the ABCs of weddings. So, I am in the phase of illustrating those, and hopefully those will come out sometime early 2025.

Christa Innis: Oh, that’s so cool! How awesome. You, like, you do it all. You’ve got a lot of projects. My brain doesn’t stop.

Cassie Horrell: It’s like I have an idea and I’m like, yeah, I’m just going to go for it. have no clue what I’m doing out here.

I’m just having fun and going with the flow.

Christa Innis: I love it. It’s that like planner mindset where you’re just like, okay, let’s just do it. Let’s get busy and find something. I love that. well, when those are available, definitely send me links and stuff and we can get it in the show notes. Well, thank you so much for coming on.

That was so fun having you react. Like I said, had some people tag you in like comments and stuff and now I follow your stuff and I like I love your content because you’re so involved in the wedding stuff that you’ve got stories for days so yeah

Cassie Horrell: but I feel like we have a very similar audience because we’re storytellers and like my whole page isn’t storytelling but Usually one a day, I try to tell stories and I get the same, like, people will be like, Did you see her story? And they’ll tag me, and I’m like, Oh, I saw it. That’s a juicy one. Yes.

Christa Innis: Yeah, it’s so good. I, can’t stop watching the, drama stories. They just, those ones just get me. Like, I love it.

Cassie Horrell: I feel like they’re like, a little bit of, like, reprieve from people’s everyday life.

Like, they come and they watch our stories, and it’s like, a minute and a half of like, totally Drama that they’re not in.

Christa Innis: Yes. And they get

Cassie Horrell: their little fix for the day, and then they’re like, Okay, I’ll come back tomorrow, like, see the next part, or whatever’s going on.

Christa Innis: Yes, yeah, it’s a good little, little break from reality, I think.

Yes. Awesome. Well, thank you so much again for coming on. It was awesome chatting with you. Thank you so much.

All right, guys, that was my interview with Cassie. I love chatting with her. It’s so fun to hear from someone that is so involved in the wedding industry. She’s got a lot of hot takes and she has. Honestly seen it all. So, thank you, Cassie, for coming on. Just a reminder, guys, if you love this episode or loving this podcast, please leave a review on Apple podcast.

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